jodi

**pablosci** · October 25th, 2006, 02:54 PM

does anybody from here consider jodi as the best net art website?????
im in love of this

http://www.jodi.org/

another parts of the site i found or website from the same authour

http://map.jodi.org/
http://404.jodi.org/
http://oss.jodi.org/
http://sod.jodi.org/
http://asdfg.jodi.org/
http://text.jodi.org/
http://jetsetwilly.jodi.org/
http://www.wrongbrowser.com/
http://www.untitled-game.org/
http://maxpaynecheatsonly.jodi.org/

and this is a critic that jodi is making about blogs:

http://blogroll.jodi.org/index.html

**haam** · October 25th, 2006, 03:03 PM

um, i opened the first 3 links. there's alot of ugly going on there.

**ramie** · October 25th, 2006, 03:07 PM

I really like this, but I really like that 80's computer graphic style anyway (is there a name for it), I would say this is an acquired taste, I can imagine lots of people hating on this.

http://jetsetwilly.jodi.org/ this just brings back so many memories of my youth.

**haam** · October 25th, 2006, 03:27 PM

yea, these peeps aren't winning any awards.

**pablosci** · October 25th, 2006, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by haam

yea, these peeps aren't winning any awards.

awards matters?
if you look for jodi influence on net art, you would we surprise, im sure of that.
jodi is for me the most important net art artist in history

**haam** · October 25th, 2006, 03:57 PM

i was generalizing my opinion on the bad art on that site. you have your opinion and i have mine. i just don't agree that a bunch of sites with mediocre graphics or reused historical graphics are going to place a mark on art history. some of this crap even has bad resolution and websave quality.

"most important" - yea, these crap graphics are way more important than anything people like joshua davis (praystation.com) or james patterson (presstube.com) have done for digital graphics or flash. psh....

there are tons of better artists on the net and in the real world.

**simplistik** · October 25th, 2006, 04:28 PM

you know i've been refraining from moving most of the bad sites being posted in kool sites... but this one takes the cake... it's unrivaled in absolute atrocity.

**pablosci** · October 25th, 2006, 07:29 PM

the problem here is that we are used to be on sites with cool and smooth graphics. where everything has to be cute and nice, nice tipography, nice colors, nice interface. and jodi is laughing about all that. this artist creates net art based con concepts and idea, not colors or imterfaces.
i respect all designers who works with interfaces, but i rather, designers that work on concepts, ideas, abstraction, and show another face of web. they work as "artist", just like artist from the 60/70/80 or 90s (like happenings, performancem, abstract, minimal, povera, situasionism art). and they are showing, that graphic and web design can be considered as an art under the idea of "net art".
i really cant belive what they do with this post. just because someone take it out from "kool sites" coss they dont consider it cool. does flash make it cool? smooth graphics make it cool?. im really disapointed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodi

**ya3** · October 25th, 2006, 08:43 PM

hl · October 25th, 2006, 09:00 PM

A website isn't kool because of how deep it may be or symbolic. It's about initial impression.

I'll give you this, when someone visits a certain site... they've got two choices, leave or stay. After browsing the content, they also have the ability to leave forever.

They don't just think, "I'm never visiting this site again." There's a pyschological aspect to content delivery that draws people away from such sites. The mere lack of usablity and the fact that I couldn't even see the whole page on my monitor... far from tell what it is, made me leave on instant. I went back to see what you were talking about, still didn't see it... I left.

edit:/ I understand the artist's way of thinking.. however if you don't present it in a pleasing fashion, no one wants to see it. Regardless of how meaningful it is. As much as I like the structure of a hydrogen bomb..

**ramie** · October 26th, 2006, 05:19 AM

Shame on the people who pass judgement on this work without researching it first.

"most important" - yea, these crap graphics are way more important than anything people like joshua davis (praystation.com) or james patterson (presstube.com) have done for digital graphics or flash. psh....

Haam your an idiot, FYI they did win awards for this, and simply calling it crap without knowing what your talking about (the subject in this instance) is out of order.

pseudo elitism rocks

**ya3** · October 26th, 2006, 07:07 AM

Alright, before I pass judgement, could someone explain what it actually is? Some amazing feat of programming genius that I fail to see?

**ramie** · October 26th, 2006, 07:41 AM

Simply put it's just some art using the web as one of their mediums to present it, they also do things like modify video games, video exhibitions, all types of interesting digital artwork. The 2 artists in question are internationally renowned for their work and have been doing this for a long time, longer than say Joshua 'Ego' Davis, while their work may be an accuried taste and not as pleasing to the eye, its just as - if not more - relevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodi
http://digitalarts.lcc.gatech.edu/un...nt_a_jodi.html
http://beallcenter.uci.edu/shift/bios/paesmans.html

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Joa...utf-8&oe=utf-8
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

**t0mm0** · October 26th, 2006, 08:21 AM

asdfg.jodi almost gave me a seisure

**haam** · October 26th, 2006, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by ramie

Shame on the people who pass judgement on this work without researching it first.

Haam your an idiot, FYI they did win awards for this, and simply calling it crap without knowing what your talking about (the subject in this instance) is out of order.

pseudo elitism rocks

hey ramie, suck my ****. the artwork on that website is ****ing terrible and i don't care what the background of it is. you can't just take a poop on a keyboard and mouse and expect everyone to like it.

there is a difference between good art and bad. it has nothing to do with being cute or smooth. if something isn't pleasing to the eye it just isn't.

just let people have differed opinions, what are you the next adolf hitler?

actung actung, no personal taste in artwork, zis iz zee best webArrrt ever made and you must love eeet.

jerkoff.