lookin' for a challenge in Illustrator

[GloryBe]

hey all,

seeing if there is anybody interested in a battle just using Illustrator. Since being here not too many people have talked about the program. seeing if there is any interest out there

take all comers

[Makaveli]

try a PS battle instead...i dunno if many people have illustrator

[GloryBe]

i find that odd, if people have flash with no illustrator. I know i always import my illustrator designs into flash, since it is way easier to draw in illustrator than flash. it just seems the way to go.


-kaotic- cool, getting skills in illustrator is totally underrated, this program is a real life saver for importing into flash and into photoshop if you want a clean crisp look.

let's see if anyone else is interested

[sinfiniti]

perhaps you should just issue a 'vector graphics only' battle where the final is an eps with no bitmaps. not everyone has the same vector graphics application, but i'm sure we all have at least one!
:)
jeremy

[kaotic]

i have illustrator, but i dont really use it, when someone post a subject ill consider a battle

[RenaissanceGirl]

I'm down for an Illustrator battle!

[lostinbeta]

GloryBe: Illustrator is a whole new expensive program that many people can't afford (such as myself, but I want it so so badly).

So is it going to be GloryBe Vs RenGirl?

[reverendflash]

lost:

you might want to try Fireworks MX first... I haven't even installed Illustrator, because Fireworks does the stuff I need it to do, and it can export directly to .swf with editable text, etc. Plus you can optimize directly from FW for virtually any type of image, or apply all of your PS filters. I seriously find it the best of both worlds...

MM has a trial download you could play with if you want. It comes with some great tutorials built in...

::end of sales pitch::

Rev:elderly:

[GloryBe]

a vector battle would be fine, good plan

[lostinbeta]

Hey Rev, I have gotten chances to use Illustrator, and I enjoyed it very much, you can also export as a .swf file from it :)

I have never tried Fireworks, I might just download that free trial and give it a run :)

[reverendflash]

I was trained on AI8, have 9 on disk...

haven't looked at 10...

But yes, AI is a fun prog. I kinda figgered that it could now export to swf. I'm sure just as PS is a more robust prog than FW, AI will prob do a bunch that FW won't.

I just feel for my needs FW is the answer.

My computer has become one large MM icon, I swear...

:beam:

Rev:elderly:

[GloryBe]

it ain't that new of a program lost........

illustrator has been around a couple years before photoshop hit the market, just forgotten maybe, i'm not sure.

maybe its time to get it back again, its such a gem

whats fireworks like rev?? i have heard so much about it but haven't seen it in the works yet?

:elderly:

[lostinbeta]

The only MM programs I have are Flash MX and Dreamweaver MX, and the only Adobe program is Photoshop :)

Anywho.. off subject... so is this a vector battle of GloryBe and Ren?

If so a mod gotta set up a theme and rules (me? or Ren...lol).

[GloryBe]

sounds good, you in Ren??

[lostinbeta]

GloryBe: Sorry, I didn't mean "new" as in brand new, I meant it as it is a whole different program altogether, I have trouble wording things sometimes :)

[GloryBe]

i see what your sayin' now beta.........i agree


=)

[morse]

...Could you define a vector program???

[GloryBe]

vector is pretty much curves that can be resized without becoming jagged. When u resize images that are pixels (anything in PHotoshop) than they become jagged.

Vector based images can be stretched bigger and look better. except blends and gradients i do believe

illustrator, flash, corel are all vector based programs

[mjULTRA]

fireworks is a lot like photoshop and image ready rolled into one, with a dash of illustrator thrown in. Its perfect for creating a website interface, slicing it into buttons with mouseovers, and then exporting the image files with an HTML. from there onto dreamweaver, and flash.....

[reverendflash]

a vector prog is one that uses points, or vectors, and the computer will calculate mathmatically the curve between those two vectors. This allows for scaling both up and down without much loss in quality. Also, since the prog uses vector points, the file size is much smaller than raster based (PS is a raster based image prog) images. Fireworks, like Majeye said is perfect for the web designer. My site was done entirely in Fireworks and Flash (with Generator).



::gets off of the soap box ::

Rev:elderly:

[GloryBe]

so back to the battle..............is there anyone still interested??

[telekinesis]

Rengirl said she would battle you! I am sure kitiare would join in also! I suck at vector illustrating! 3D and Flash all the way!

[GloryBe]

cool, so do you need confirmation from everyone before the topic?? or can u post the topic and see if others will join?? Or can u join after the topic has been set??


sorry just getting excited *twitch* *twitch*
:P

[RenaissanceGirl]

Count me in and definitely invite Kit for this. But I must warn you that I only started working on it recently so I might not be a good challenge, but I want to join just for fun and to get my feet wet in the battle forum.

As far as Adobe/Macromedia - I think it really depends on your preferrence. I have been on both sides of the fence and I find it easier to work with the Adobe interface. Not that it's superior - my brain is just hard-wired to work best with it. Sure, this program might have an extra tool that another program might have, but all in all there's really nothing you can accomplish in that you can't accomplish in another.

Photoshop 7 is actually much more powerful now, with vector, image slicing capabilities. It goes toe-to-toe with Fireworks. :P

[GloryBe]

well, i guess we have two people for now...........can we get a mod to write up the rules

lets get the show rollin'

[Makaveli]

*looks at Dan* we are waiting to be serviced! ....the bastard customers give that look all the time at work......**** em

[telekinesis]

Well does anyone have any suggestions for a theme, I don't use Illustrator at all? I wouldn't want to pick a crappy theme, that wouldn't be fun would it....

[lostinbeta]

Yeah, I have only used Illustrator a couple times, not really sure what it is entirely capable of :-\

Maybe like a comic strip or something... with little vector characters and such ???? No clue...lol.

[GloryBe]

the category can be anything photoshop could be, except without any styles like say grunge or whatever. Anything can be done in illustrator it just has to be drawn rather than paste/copy edit.

the possibilities are endless *staring off into space*

just throw a category out there and see if everyone entered agrees, i think thats the best choice.

if not, hey, trial and error

:)

[telekinesis]

Idea 1:
Make your own species in Illustrator and then descibe him, or maybe even a little story about your species.

Idea 1:
Make your own car of what you think the average car will look like in the year 2487.

Idea 1:
Make an illustration resembling the difference between heaven and hell.

Which one shall it be?

[GloryBe]

wow Dan, not bad topics............i know i wouldn't come up with anything.

my choice would be the new species, that sounds pretty cool. I'm not much of a futuristic buff, and the only heaven/hell i ever see in my head is the South Park, so i don't want to be sued at all.:)

thats my choice, but thats just one voice


*man that last line makes me look like a rapper*
:rambo:

[telekinesis]

Foe Sho....my nizzle bo dizzle bizzle. Suck on my nizzles you D double O Gizzle! :P

[lostinbeta]

I like the species one as well. Definitely allows for unlimited creativity :)

[Makaveli]

Originally posted by dan4885
Foe Sho....my nizzle bo dizzle bizzle. Suck on my nizzles you D double O Gizzle! :P

never seen that side of dan b4... =)

[GloryBe]

hahaha

i guess he got bit by the funk bug
:bandit:

tends to happen to the best of us

[GloryBe]

so is it official? like to know if we still have a battle here. sounds like me and rengirl, so far.

never thought it would take so long to get it going

:*(

[deeplybreathe]

yeah i haven't been to this forum in a couple of months, basically because i went back to school and haven't had as much time to work with flash anymore. but then ryan told me about the battles and such.

i'm down for a vector battle. i suck at futuristic stuff. but whatever.

i hate freehand 10, but you got to work with what you got. i may just end up making the paths in photoshop. who knows.

let me know subject, time, etc!


matt

[deeplybreathe]

apparently i'm so good at vector stuff that i scared everyone off this topic.

haha yeah right.

[lostinbeta]

Alright, this is last call, who is all participating in this battle?

[GloryBe]

i'm still in............


i was waiting for some reply from rengirl

but got none

lets vector it up :rambo:

[lostinbeta]

Ren said she would do it in the 2nd page of this thread.

So its GloryBe, Ren...

Anyone else?

Are you in this deeplybreathe?

[GloryBe]

yeah i seen that, but i thought she would help choose the topics dan set up

so is it still the species thing?

[lostinbeta]

Yep... I gotta think of the dimensions for it too.

Probably should be something big.

[deeplybreathe]

i'm definately in.

sorry about now replying right away. i used to get emails when topics were updated. but i haven't been, because i changed my email and forgot to change the settings here.

sorry bout that.


matt

[alethos]

I've never done anything in a vector program (unless you count Flash stuff). This sounds like a great challenge, so you can count me in.

So are we gonna get an actual theme, or do we pick from the 3 ideas you posted earlier?

-Al

[lostinbeta]

Ok, so here it is....

<B>Theme:</B> Make your own species in Illustrator and then descibe him, or maybe even a little story about your species.
<B>Programs:</B> Illustrator
<B>Size:</B> No Larger than 1024x768
<B>Time:</B> Sunday December 8th
<B>Participants:</B> GloryBe, RenaissanceGirl, deeplybreathe, alethos

It is due one week from today as stated above :)

[GloryBe]

cool, we finally got somethin' going here

alright sunday it is

[lostinbeta]

I wish everyone the best of luck! :)

[Neo_Clone01]

late contender, early entry
here is my new species
http://www.boomspeed.com/antomation2/cows.jpg
hehe...description says it all

[eyeinfinitude]

lmao!!! :P Thats hilarious, kinda reminds me of ancient cave paintings of animals. =)

[todd71]

not that im in it, since i just came across it, but i thought id share..:)..lol

[Neo_Clone01]

good luck to all the 'real' participants...
even thogh mine owns you all hehe

[morse]

lol thats funny. Nice work, todd71, what did you use to make that?

[todd71]

it was all done in illustrator 10..:)

[h88]

Are Neo_Clone01 and todd71 considered as participants now?

[lostinbeta]

No, I had last call a while ago on who was participating and put those participants in the thread with the rules.

[h88]

They've done something, other participants did'nt? Anyways, forgiving them is a good idea lost, if no, then feel free deleting this post. :)

[lostinbeta]

The battle isn't even due yet...lol.

The participants have until the 8th to submit their entries :)

[h88]

Lol, ok. :)

[todd71]

thanks h88..i didnt think id be included, but there were so few people using illustrator and its one of my favorite programs..i use it on pretty much a daily basis...just thought id share..:)

[lostinbeta]

Well I will make a deal... if you want to be participants you are more then welcome :)

The more the merrier eh?

[h88]

I assume they do want to be participants? :-\

[todd71]

sure...sounds good to me...but then i want to be fair about it too...but if no one minds then thatd be great..:)

[lostinbeta]

I don't mind.

Battles aren't really about winning or anything, just friendly competition. It's not like you get anything for winning, just some congrats and some extra experience under your belt :) So there really isn't a way to be "unfair" unless you cheat in your battle, which is kinda hard to do, and if it is done, a person is disqualified... blah blah blah...LOL.

[todd71]

sounds good to me..;)

[Neo_Clone01]

it was kinda just a joke but...
if my entry wins ill crap myself

[morse]

lol

[GloryBe]

how's everyone makin' out with their pics? Can't wait to see everyones, I'm almost done here.


Tomorrow should be interesting

later

[deeplybreathe]

as this is the last of school for me, i've had project after project to do. it's been terrible. i haven't even started yet. i really hope to get something done tonight / tomorrow though. i'd hate to wimp out.

but then again, there are a couple other people in this battle too, so if i don't get to it i suppose it wouldn't be a total loss for everyone else.

next time i will definately make sure that i have no school, girlfriends, bands, or any of that other unimportant stuff to do. haha.


matt

[alethos]

I haven't started either. I hope to get some time tomorrow to do it, but there's no way I'll be a contender in this battle. :)

[RenaissanceGirl]

Sorry guys - unexpected plans arose during the past few days, not leaving me with ANY time to finish my creature/species/thing. So I'm going to have to drop out of this one...

[GloryBe]

everybody almost ready? I'm not sure what time it is for you guys


ready to post whenever.........I'm at the point where i don't even want to look at it anymore, so thats when you know your done haha

[alethos]

Unfortunately I gotta pull out too. I'm really sorry, people.

[GloryBe]

Hey Lost,

is Neo and Todd in this??

just wondering if this battle is gonna take place now

[GloryBe]

well, I'm gonna take off for the day, so I'm posting now...........


hopefully there will still be someone to compete with, if not, that will suck

oh well

anyways, I hope you guys have seen the gag of Brian Fellows on Saturday Night Live with Tracey Morgan, the write up of my species is based on that, so if you haven't seen Brian Fellows Safari Planet, I apologize, and you should download a skit b/c it is frickin' hilarious. And this picture is 100% Adobe Illustrator.

http://www.rosetown.ca/crocfrog.gif

later gator
:P

[alethos]

That's some kickass work Glory. And Brian Fellow is Tracy Morgan's best skit, IMHO. :)

[eyeinfinitude]

wow looks great, but it seems a bit pixely around some of the edges for illustrator or is it just me? Either way, looks good. =)

[GloryBe]

oh sorry,

I cropped it in Photoshop, since you cant in illustrator, I never wanted the pic to take up the whole board


i can post the original without cropping if you would like
:)



--------------
Electrongeek

ahh, posted the original now anyways, don't want people thinking i added anything in photoshop...........that wouldn't be cool

[eyeinfinitude]

oh ahhaha no its ok, no need to do such thing. good job. =)

[deeplybreathe]

yeah like i said, i had way too much "unimportant" stuff to do this week. and as we speak i'm neglecting a final paper that's due tomorrow morning.

but nevertheless, i didn't want to wimp out, even though i could definately do nothing compared to what glorybe came up with. especially in about an hour.

so here's what i got...

<center>
http://www.fallingforautumn.net/other/pictures/minuet_flier.gif
</center>

did it all the outlining in photoshop actually, and did the wavey text in illustrator. congratulations glorybe, you won.


matt

[morse]

Hey, thats pretty sweet looking ya know. Nice try. :)

[GloryBe]

hey deeply, love the disco pose

nice work

hopefully we can have a battle when we both have plenty of time to make something



:)

[deeplybreathe]

it was just something i threw together so you'd actually have some "competition."

ya know i really think that they should start doing battles a little different, since none of them seem to be working out. maybe instead of having people join and "commit" themselves to the battle (which doesn't seem to be working), the mods could just come up with a subject, set a due date, and leave it open for all kirupaforum members. that way i'm sure you'd probably get some more people to submit their work, plus you may see a little more diversity, rather than just the "regulars." (who are still awesome, don't get me wrong)

i don't know. just an idea.


matt

[lostinbeta]

Well see, battles aren't something that Dan made up.

Battles are something that have existed for some time now, and we are just following the typical rules of battle.

If a member doesn't have the time to create something, they shouldn't agree to a battle :-\

[Makaveli]

interesting idea nonetheless deeply

[eyeinfinitude]

Lost is right, if someone doesn't have time for a battle then they shouldnt join and the battles are open to everyone, not just the regulars. Its just that no one wants to participate. :-\

[deeplybreathe]

yeah i know what you're saying.

i'm just trying to think of a way to get more people to participate.
<b>and then contribute when they participate.</b>

* note to self: listen to what you just said


matt

[Makaveli]

noone is trying *dump* on you deeply but that idea is as fallible as the current system....what if noone submits to the theme at all? at least when people "commit" the mods can give the go ahead and its likely the participants will submit something, otherwise there might be hundreds of battles with no entries...exagerating but you get my drift?

[telekinesis]

Poll has been posted. Don't worry about dropped out of a battle, I don't want to make this a place where people are too scared to enter a battle because they might have something more importnant come up and not have time to submit an entry. But after a few times of dropping out you will be warned and then not be allowed to enter another battle for a certain time period. We are all here to have fun, we have enough police in this world, I'm sure you don't want another one! ;)