A Good sound program for...

[Fargate]

I need a good sound program for editing large bits of audio. And I mean mp3's that are like many hours long. Does anyone know of any good audio editing programs? I've tried importing it into premiere and editing it but it always crashes and with cooledit Pro it only imports the first 20 minutes which is pretty useless considering the part I need to get at is a few hours in...Any ideas about this? I've never really heard of any good programs that could handle something so large or at least parse part of the file that I needed. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated ^_^!

Thanks,

Fargate :D

[gonzales]

PCs = soundforge
Macs = peak

[Maizoon]

Soundforge is one of the best consumer audio editors for PC, its a bit pricey though...but well worth it if you do alot of editing like me.

[999]

Sound Forge IS excellent. Been using it for a couple years now and up until an hour ago when I accidently selected an avi file instead of a wav file I had no idea it could bring video in as well?

I really need to start reading the manuals.

[prstudio]

adobe audition also known back in the day as cool edit pro = the best.

i've used both - and cool edit definetly wins.

[Ryall]

ProTools for shizzy :thumb:

[Maizoon]

ProTools for shizzy
If you have a couple grand layin around.
Though I personally prefer Logic, no proprietary hardware to buy.

Currently I use a combination of Soundforge, Acid, Reason, Sonic, and an Oxygen 8 usb keyboard + my decks & cdj to mix, produce, remix, and master everything...and Logic when I go to my friends place and use his maxed out G5.

[Jasninder]

simple, easy effective...nothing beats goldwave

[Fargate]

Whoa that was a pretty big response :P. So it looks like a 3/7 SF...1 cool edit but as I said that doesn't seem to be able to import it...2/7 pro tools...and 1 gold wave but I don't think that can handle big long audio and I'm talking like up to 20 hours just so we're clear :P. So it sounds like it's between Pro and Forge?(Except probably forge because I don't really have a couple of grand laying around =/...I'm assuming that both of these can handle long bits of audio and you can easily swap bits around and stuff? Or is one better suited for the task I have in mind...what I really need almost is an Adobe Premiere for Audio o.O...and beyond if possible of course ^_^!

Thanks for all the quick answers,

Fargate =)

[Jasninder]

20 HRS ????????? :stunned:
what u makin man?

[Fargate]

lol it's quite a long thing basically a compilation of a bunch of things...anyways i got the demo for sound forge...but there's like no multipe tracks? No cut tool or anything o.O....as I said what I really need is an adobe premiere for audio that can handle something that big =(....

See the whole reason I need this is because of an incorrect splice between two sequences and it really screws up the whole thing because the two chunks got swapped...so it basically makes no sense until I re-splice it properly....>_<!

Thanks for the info so far :),

Fargate :D

[gonzales]

all you have to do is highlight the portion of the audio you want to cut and then press control-c or control-x, then press control-n. pick mono or stereo. then press control-p. presto, your new audio file is ready.

[Fargate]

oh really o.O...i shall try fiddling with that thanks...*runs off to try :P*

Fargate :D

[zacus]

i use adobe audition

works well for me, i havent used any other progs tho so i cant really coment

[Butters]

Adobe Audition is sweet.

LogicPro is good if your using a Mac.

[Fargate]

Ah yeah nice I got it to work ^^! I sorta did what you said gonzales but i had to ctrl + x , v in the same document. If i tried to separate it into a new stereo document 6000 I think it was, it would screw up the audio and make it really low tone. Before I pasted it every time it gave some sort of odd warning and mentions resampling...either way I have no clue what that means? Any idea why the audio screws up like that? Anyways It's great that I've managed that original big problem but now there are a few tweaks I need to make at hour 17 and also at around hour 15...but the problem is it is starting to crash every time I try to view stuff past around 13 hours and I don't know why...the file also seems to no longer be able to read properly by Sound Forge...like it doesn't generate the audio peaks properly although all the audio content is there and is the same in every respect as it was before so I don't think SF corruputed it or anything :huh:. It's strange and it just crashes giving me this error message every time:

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Sony Sound Forge 7.0
Version 7.0 (Build 214)
Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) READ:0x27FB040 IP:0x100B3C17
In Module 'forgek.dll' at Address 0x10000000 + 0xB3C17
Thread: GUI ID=0xB78 Stack=0x12F000-0x130000
Registers:
EAX=03190040 CS=001b EIP=100b3c17 EFLGS=00010246
EBX=00000000 SS=0023 ESP=0012f604 EBP=017b9ff0
ECX=027fb040 DS=0023 ESI=ffd9ac00 FS=003b
EDX=00000002 ES=0023 EDI=00000002 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
100B3C17: 0F BF 19 0F BF 79 02 0F .....y..
100B3C1F: BF 71 04 0F BF 51 06 8B .q...Q..
Stack Dump:
0012F604: 00000000
0012F608: 00000002
0012F60C: FFD9AC00
0012F610: 0012F6A0 00030000 + FF6A0
0012F614: FFECD600
0012F618: 00000002
0012F61C: 100B970B 10000000 + B970B (forgek.dll)
0012F620: 00000000
0012F624: 017B9FF0 016C0000 + F9FF0
0012F628: 00000004
0012F62C: 00000002
0012F630: 0000029B
0012F634: 02FA8F10 02F90000 + 18F10
0012F638: 00000000
0012F63C: 28010BC4
0012F640: 02FA8F10 02F90000 + 18F10
> 0012F670: 77F159A0 77F10000 + 59A0 (GDI32.dll)
> 0012F6A4: 100BA69B 10000000 + BA69B (forgek.dll)
0012F6A8: B3580000
0012F6AC: FFFFFFFF
0012F6B0: 00000011
0012F6B4: 017B9FF0 016C0000 + F9FF0
> 0012F6D8: 1000D5FF 10000000 + D5FF (forgek.dll)
0012F6DC: 02FA8F10 02F90000 + 18F10
0012F6E0: B3580000
0012F6E4: FFFFFFFF
0012F6E8: 00001000
> 0012F768: 1000D7D4 10000000 + D7D4 (forgek.dll)
0012F76C: B3580000
0012F770: FFFFFFFF
0012F774: 0029B000 00280000 + 1B000
0012F778: 00000002
> 0012F794: 1000BD3B 10000000 + BD3B (forgek.dll)
0012F798: B3580000
0012F79C: FFFFFFFF
0012F7A0: 0029B000 00280000 + 1B000
0012F7A4: 00000000
> 0012F808: 77D48709 77D40000 + 8709 (USER32.dll)
> 0012F81C: 0042C500 00400000 + 2C500 (forge70.exe)
- - -
0012FFF0: 00000000
0012FFF4: 00000000
0012FFF8: 0051BC7C 00400000 + 11BC7C (forge70.exe)
0012FFFC: 00000000

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Anyone make sense of that one...wierd...anyways very irritating though hindering my progress. That's my real problem the audio distortion thing is easy to work around...so what I really need to know is what's going on o.O! And it's not like it's an illegal copy or something it's the demo right from their site!Any ideas on this would be greatly appreciated ^_^!

Thanks,

Fargate =)

[gonzales]

hmmm... ive never had crazy errors like that, although ive never tried to edit more than about 1.5 hours of audio per file. it sounds like you need more ram though. the sampling error comes up when you try to paste one audio sample rate into a conflicting sample rate document. im not sure what sample rate youre using, so when you create a new document, try selecting different sample rates to see which one will work.

[Fargate]

Yeah that must be it...i'd have to fiddle with the range...but that's not my big problem as I said it's the inability to reach far into the file I guess o.O...mind you I wouldn't be suprised if I didn't have enough ram...mind you the original stuff got inputed at almsot 12 hours so I don't see why 15 is that much more of a stretch...I'm running a 2ghz 256 ram so maybe the ram is too little but it just seems so odd for it to work great 3 hours earlier then totally be inable 3 more hours in...really odd o.o...in the meantime maybe i'll experiment more with the sample rate...are you sure there's no other way I can get to that other audio material?

Thanks,

Fargate =)


EDIT: Ok I got the thing with resample or w/e to work but the only message it gives me now is this thing about BitRate Depth and that I'm pasting from higher source or something...ah I can't understand any of this :P. Anyways I pasted it back and it seems to have no effect whatsoever, the audio stays the same in the second repasted bit as far as I can tell. As for the sample thing I noticed that the mp3 states it's rate and etc when you import it so that's not hard to tell. So i basically snipped it in half...got in close enough to edit...Just on a tangent,I forgot to mention but even if I zoom out and then place my cursour far out and try to zoom in it also errors and shows corrupt peaks.And I'm talking about in the full length one anywhere passed 13hrs should make it crash and error :-/....Anyways I finished my second edits and that all seems fine but I still am getting error messages so maybe your right about the ram...dunno...as long as the audio file isn't corrupted it's all good :P. I don't see why it isn't generating the peaks properly though :huh:. At this point I've gotten it to work I just want to know for the future though in case I have more problems because it's still been a bit of a hassle to get it to work o.O.