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j_polo9
February 15th, 2005, 10:44 AM
Well this is the third part of my concept design for an online Devotional site. The first two designs are Kaputz, got any tips on this one? Thanks,
-Jesse

http://www.norcaldesigns.com/jesse/thelight.gif

Tommy_S
February 15th, 2005, 11:07 AM
Oh, yes. Much better. But it doesn't look like a real reflection. I'd recommend you, to make a horizontal line (or gradient), so that to separate the things and their reflection.

booler
February 15th, 2005, 11:39 AM
my only nudge would be that the center area seems a little lower than it should be look at the bottom horizontal line in relationship to the items on the left and right maybe moving it up a bit would give it a bit of realistic depth? its moreso on the picture frame now that I look at it again maybe just move that down a bit

also everything seems to be floating.... I'd go with what tommy suggested and give it a "plane" to sit on kinda like a small desktop but not literally a nice gradient fill with a fairly low opacity just to give it a sense of something substantial

j_polo9
February 15th, 2005, 11:45 AM
thanks..that said i dont get it lol. im sure your both right but i didn't sleep cuz i was working on this so i don't understand what you mean by the gradient fill horizontal line thing, at least that's my excuse :P Any further elaborations?

j_polo9
February 15th, 2005, 09:01 PM
Did you mean something more like this? Argh still doesn't look right, got any tips?
http://www.norcaldesigns.com/jesse/theLight02.gif

simplistik
February 15th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Hmm... it's better than the others... it's alright. HOWEVER! The reflections still won't work... why you ask? Well that's a good question. The angles are off for one. 2, Because it doesn't resemble a true reflection. A true reflection wouldn't show the lower inside bevel of the image... you wouldn't be able to see it.... not only that... it would be closer to the actual object... not detached.

EDIT: I edited the post to make more sense... I just woke up... sorry :P

booler
February 15th, 2005, 10:26 PM
yeah exactly alot better and you would need to "attach" the reflections and maybe skew them a little down towards the bottom


are you doing this in flash??? not a religious person by any means so the site wouldn't work for me anyways but man I'm liking the execution on this version its definantly coming together. also you may want to extend the "desktop" off the sides but thats personal preference

Tommy_S
February 15th, 2005, 11:21 PM
Oh no, that doesn't look like a reflection. Try making a fade-away reflection. Also, there's something with the angles, as simplistik mentioned. Experiment.

j_polo9
February 16th, 2005, 12:07 AM
EDIT: I edited the post to make more sense... lol i got you the first time and completely agreed, my attempted mirror didn't make any sense. I hope this one looks a little better let me know if there is anything wrong with my logic in the new mirroring.

http://www.norcaldesigns.com/jesse/thelight03.gif


are you doing this in flash??? not a religious person by any means so the site wouldn't work for me anyways but man I'm liking the execution on this version its definantly coming together. also you may want to extend the "desktop" off the sides but thats personal preference Thank you! And desktop extended :) And i am planning on flashing it.


Try making a fade-away reflection What do you mean by that?

booler
February 16th, 2005, 12:19 AM
Welcome looks good I see the desktop is coming to a point in the back like a square standing on a point the reflections look good you might want to see if you can make them fade away a little away from the original image but thats still pretty darn good you client will be happy I'm sure

novatron6
February 16th, 2005, 12:23 AM
just a thought for the cross reflection... It needs to be flipped so that the "devotional" side of the cross is up instead of down in the reflection...

j_polo9
February 16th, 2005, 12:58 AM
you might want to see if you can make them fade away a little away from the original image thanks, what do you mean by fade away? Opacity, size, add filters?


just a thought for the cross reflection... It needs to be flipped so that the "devotional" side of the cross is up instead of down in the reflection... Thats what i though too but i asked some people and they said it had to be the way it is now so now im confused. I think the problem is that the reflection cross is taller than the origional.

Edit: I changed the above image so that the perspective of the reflections gets skinnier as it moves away from the image. Also blended in some waves, not sure why just felt like it.

Tommy_S
February 16th, 2005, 04:20 AM
Yup, much better now. You make a progress, j_polo9.

novatron6
February 16th, 2005, 09:27 AM
try flipping the cross, I think thats how it should be...

simplistik
February 16th, 2005, 09:42 AM
LoL... yea whoever told you that was the correct cross reflection was... ummm... wrong. Your reflections should look like this....

\ | / - all going to one focal point... or like this | | | - w/ no focal point. Not like this \ | \

Jasninder
February 16th, 2005, 10:31 AM
does anyone feel that cross is a bit small length wise?
looks nice otherwise.

j_polo9
February 16th, 2005, 11:33 AM
so slanted in like this? Also does the background look better darker like this?

http://www.norcaldesigns.com/jesse/thelight04.gif