3D Subway Battle

[grinch]

Alright guys,
heres the official thread for the 3d subway battle. Heres the rules :

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All skill level 3d Subway battle

Theme ::: Subway (as in underground train station)

poly count ::: any

application ::: 3d application (maya, max, xsi, cinema, blender, swift3d ect...)

requirements : must provide wireframe with final textured render.

DUE DATE : 10th March

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STATE OF BATTLE : CLOSED/FINISHED

[Sammo]

Theme::: Subway (as in underground train station)

No, just subway, see signifiers entry

[grinch]

Uh no,
this is what the rules are, sorry man.

[signifer123]

Dang it!!!!
Well maybe i'll make a new one, grinch your no fun, but on the bright side i get to make two entries.

[REEF·]

How interesting is a train station? It's probably just me but I can't get any other image of a 3D model in my mind other than a train...

*punches self*

[.soulty]

think of the first matrix scene with neo in the underground train station, columns, seats, phone booth... dirt and aging on the walls, floating pieces of paper and rubbish on the ground, insects... its about making a mood, a scene.. use your imagination.

[dreeft]

aww, and I was thinking Subway restuarants :(

[mpelland]

sounds good to me. There are lots of things that you can do with a subway. Does it have to be realistic? If not then you can make it look like what you think a subway station should look like (futuristic, older, or just different). A lot of different skills are needed, lighting, texturing, space perception, etc. This should be fun!

[grinch]

thanks soulty for the ideas!

Well guys, lets start submitting shall we?

and the battle is currently OPEN

[GreenLantern]

Well I gave this a shot last night, and I have realized that I suck at 3D.

I might try again later, but i'm going to collapse in my own defeat for a while.

[mordaut]

o wut fun! ive only made one other 3d model...i discovered blender about a week ago...so yea...i take the usually take the subway twice a day... so i know it pretty well...but its suprisingly hard to get an image of it in my head... i dont really *look* at the subway in that way when im riding it...i just...ride it...lol

[McGuffin]

I'm in.

[thesparky007]

i dont even have a 3d application to try
i would if i had 1
sorry
hehe

[signifer123]

well its yuor lucky day my good freind, because today you get to fidn a 3d progrma that you like from this great list on the net

http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=202348

[GreenLantern]

I really think if we are going to do a 3D battle we should stick with a single object. I mean a scene is quite a projec to take on, and with a 3 week deadline? No one is going to finish with anything worth a crap.

[signifer123]

I'm sure i could but then again i have no life :P

[GreenLantern]

Look at my post count. Does it look like I have a life? :lol:

[signifer123]

Well, then i guess me and you can make a subway

[grinch]

Yeah well if you don't want to make it look spiffy, then thats your choice!
I'm working on my entry currently, and it's coming along well, just some basic modeling and texturing, and some decent renders.

Doesn't have to look amazing or whatnot!

And deadline can be altered if you wish.

[GreenLantern]

Give me a preview grinch. I would like to see how somebody else is going about this.

[DarkChild]

same here, if i see an example i might jump in, at the moment i have no idea how to start

[.soulty]

just google search subway for inspiration...

look for photos or something.

[GreenLantern]

I want to see how you would go about doing it in a 3D program though.

[signifer123]

Glad i already have an idea of how i'm gonna do it maybe later i'll start on it and give you guys a quick pic if grinch doesn't

[GreenLantern]

Anybody want to post what they have so far? Please?

[grinch]

Well if you don't know how to start off, the first thing I do for every project, is create basic geometry, so I can get a basic idea of the scale. Then I start working off of it.
Here's part of my basic geometry.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/ex.jpg

"Start off simple, understand what your creating, dont rush things" thats what I was told by pro 3d'ers

[GreenLantern]

:thumb:

I see said the blind man. I like it.

I got started on making a subway and gave up, then I thought I would start with something simple so I started modeling a computer case. (clickity click me (http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85814))

[grinch]

haha dont give up man!

but nice case!

[thirdworldman]

I don't usually like to post until I'm done, but here's what I've got so far; I'm going the "light study" route.

http://www.tweakmedia.com/casey/3dsubway.jpg

[GreenLantern]

Jesus man, that is sick!

I don't think I can keep up with you guys.

[.soulty]

nice wip screens there guys, looking good :thumb:

thirdworldman thats looking amazing, you going to have that perspective view as your final frame or you going to check for another shot when you finished rendering?

great stuff.. ;)

[DarkChild]

@ thirdworldman: WOW!

[signifer123]

Yeah that scared the crap out of me...good luck beating him anyone, dang thats how mine was gonna look.

[DarkChild]

my motto is "don't start anything you can't possibly win" so i'm not gonna start on this man, that is just sick...

[.soulty]

this is why you shouldnt post images before the due time, people dont give up, its an all level 3d battle, dosent matter how good or bad your skills are, this is so you can develop your skills, i m sure thirdworldman wasnt good straight off the bat, he had to start somewhere too and now his skills are pretty good but im sure he could even tell you when he started people wiped the floor with him, his image is great but its not impossible, the texturing and lighting is what sets it off the rest is some simple modelled geometry.

everyone keep at it, and find a angle to your image which will make yours original.
:thumb:

[grinch]

this is why you shouldnt post images before the due time, people dont give up, its an all level 3d battle, dosent matter how good or bad your skills are, this is so you can develop your skills, i m sure thirdworldman wasnt good straight off the bat, he had to start somewhere too and now his skills are pretty good but im sure he could even tell you when he started people wiped the floor with him, his image is great but its not impossible, the texturing and lighting is what sets it off the rest is some simple modelled geometry.

everyone keep at it, and find a angle to your image which will make yours original.
:thumb:

I definetly agree with soulty...
Dont give up just becuase some showed a nice render. I just decided to show a basic wireframe for people on where to start. It doesn't matter guys, just keep at it!

Definetly nice work thirdworldman!

[signifer123]

Lol only one person i know of said they were giving up man, i just have to replan my look for mine

[REEF·]

....

Owned.

--

Nice 3D render ;P 3rdworldmang.

[eilsoe]

ok I'm in too folks... :thumb:

Already started, gettin' some ok renders so far, just need to pump up the details and figure out how to model the subway trains... :-/

[BlueSunD]

count me in too! :) Just started today, but i'll see if I post some wip screens.

[eilsoe]

I'll have a WIP screen up in a few minutes.. and then it's off to bed :sleep:

[eilsoe]

http://www.avalon-rev.dk/junk/station1.jpg


my WIP screen... gonna add a lot of detail later. :)

[thesparky007]

ohhhhhhhh my goddddddddddddd
tht is cool
man!
i want to do those stuff
i will learn
tell me a good program

[thirdworldman]

Thanks for all the compliments folks, I appreciate the encouragement. Soulty, yes, that is the perspective I've been working toward..in fact, I've so far modeled everything around that perspective...i.e. everything looks like crap if viewed at a different angle. I'm open to suggestions though.

I also agree with what Soulty said about not quitting--especially not on my behalf. This project should be fun, and from what I've learned, every 3d project is a huge learning experience and there are so many directions you could go with it.

[thirdworldman]

Eilsoe, nice render! :worried:

[eilsoe]

:love:

[.soulty]

thanks grinch and thirdworldman(shheshh do you have a shorter username? lol)

nice render eilsoe :thumb:

[GreenLantern]

Very nice. :thumb: :thumb: (Two thumbs up)

[grinch]

Aw this is so great!

People are actually participating in this battle!!!


Well, for all of us not-so-experienced 3d artists, this battle is a very good way to learn many new things and techniques. I mean, I have no idea of winning this battle, but from using what I've learned, and combining new techniques, I'm sure to learn alot.

A quick question, what are you guys modeling in? nurbs? I'm doing mine all in nurbs, and i'm having a little trouble modeling a nice chair, like the one that eisloe had.
Not asking for any explanation, but possibly a couple tips for all of us here?

Thanks guys, I'm working hard on it.

[DDD]

looking good eilsoe.... I wish I had time to join. Wanna give myself a modo project.

[thirdworldman]

I tend to sterr away from nurbs and use polygons exclusively...most 3d packages now (max, maya, xsi, lightwave, etc.) have really improved upon polygonal modeling, having added features such as subdivision surfaces (or sub'd's). This is great for any type of model, whether it be architectural or organic. Some people argue that Sub D's have rendered nurbs obsolete (no pun intended). I personally use XSI, but this is a new standard modeling method that can be applied to almost any program. Google the term, and see if there are any good tuts out there for your program.

In a nutshell, Sub D's allow you to work on a low density object, while in real-time, a virtual high resolution copy of that object is updated. The beauty of this lies in the ability to create organic nurbslike objects) with very little work, with even more accurate results than what can be achieved with nurbs. On the flipside, almost all architectural/structural modeling should be built with polys in the first place. I hope that helps, and if you need any more pointers about Sub D's, let me know.

[thesparky007]

so!!!!!!!
none of them is free???

[grinch]

I tend to sterr away from nurbs and use polygons exclusively...most 3d packages now (max, maya, xsi, lightwave, etc.) have really improved upon polygonal modeling, having added features such as subdivision surfaces (or sub'd's). This is great for any type of model, whether it be architectural or organic. Some people argue that Sub D's have rendered nurbs obsolete (no pun intended). I personally use XSI, but this is a new standard modeling method that can be applied to almost any program. Google the term, and see if there are any good tuts out there for your program.

In a nutshell, Sub D's allow you to work on a low density object, while in real-time, a virtual high resolution copy of that object is updated. The beauty of this lies in the ability to create organic nurbslike objects) with very little work, with even more accurate results than what can be achieved with nurbs. On the flipside, almost all architectural/structural modeling should be built with polys in the first place. I hope that helps, and if you need any more pointers about Sub D's, let me know.


Ah I understand. I mean, I try using polugons for more basic modeling, but you see, my father is product designer, (uses alias studio 9x) and uses only NURBS. So when he actually has time, he'll expplain nurbs and whatnot...

But I understand, and more tips would be Oh so great!

[signifer123]

kirupa.com

so!!!!!!!
none of them is free???
uhhh, look at the post in the very first part of the thread i set up this (%0Ahttp://www.gamedev.net/community/fo...topic_id=202348) link for a list of a bunch of 3d programs varying from free to over 5k

[grinch]

for free applications, I like gmax.

[signifer123]

but gmax doesn't render

[thesparky007]

kirupa.com

uhhh, look at the post in the very first part of the thread i set up this (http://%0ahttp://www.gamedev.net/community/fo...topic_id=202348) link for a list of a bunch of 3d programs varying from free to over 5k
cool
thx man!

[thirdworldman]

I've never used it, but Blender 3d is free, and from what I've seen, there's a pretty nice set of tools there...blender3d.com

[DDD]

every package except LW has a free trial.

[.soulty]

any progress on this?... i finally decided im not going to partipate.. seeing that other work needs to take priority but im still interested in peoples progression, and yes i know i said people should post before they are finished but hey the cats out of the bag already... so lets see them!!!.

[Sammo]

every package except LW has a free trial.

Yeah and thats the one I really want to try...I've heard so much abuot LW being the best (although my 3d friends are probably biased)...

[GreenLantern]

What is all this about LW. Everybody seems to think it's the bomb. Why? Maybe this needs to be it's own thread?

[.soulty]

yeah would be better to talk about this somewhere else, basically Lw is a really good app to those who are use to its interface, seperate modelling and layout style.

other than that you have the best out of the box rendering system in any 3d app and a very capable and quick particle system.

[eilsoe]

do we have a set date for the deadline? I haven't worked on my entry for the past... since I threw up that WIP, and I only have today and tomorrow to work on it.

basically I'm just gonna throw in a train (if I can make one), and some more details... maybe some newspapers lying about... and stuff like that...

[McGuffin]

Yeah, I need a set done date, I might not be able to get this one done.

[eilsoe]

well, people seems to have forgotten about this battle...

[thirdworldman]

I haven't forgotten, but I haven't had time either. I'm going away for the weekend and won't be able to work on it until after Monday.

[squishy]

ohhhhhhhh my goddddddddddddd
tht is cool
man!
i want to do those stuff
i will learn
tell me a good program
If you want a free program blender not free and cheaper than $500 animtion master $300

[.soulty]

well, people seems to have forgotten about this battle...originally the date was 3 weeks after start..

...anyway since grinch aint around, ill make a date based around his original suggestion: say about 2 weeks

10th March

[BlueSunD]

Sounds good to me, I havn´t had too much spare time to work on my entrie... but let´s really hope people havn´t really forgot abou this battle! :puzzled:

[thirdworldman]

I can definately comply with 2 weeks

[GW02]

I swear by Cinema4D, but I don't want to lead teh topic even further off-track.

[grinch]

Hey guys!

I'm finally back from the beautiful Italy, and I'm ready to start getting back into the battle!

March 10th sounds pretty good, yet I just might need a couple days or so, depending on how my time goes.

and soulty, your not going to participate?! Aw hoe come man! I was looking forward to your entry!

I'm still working hard, almost done!

[BlueSunD]

Well this is what I´ve got so far, still a lot of things missing or to be fixed :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/BlueSunD/Maya/NeWmetro02.jpg

Sorry if it looks kind of blurry, but it´s just a preview render :) I would love to see how every body else is doing........... well, great I guess, but I´m just so curious! :D

[grinch]

Aw great work man!
I love it, I'm sure it'll be one of the top renders!

[eilsoe]

Sorry if it looks kind of blurry, but it´s just a preview render :) I would love to see how every body else is doing........... well, great I guess, but I´m just so curious! :D


sure...

http://www.avalon-rev.dk/junk/station1.jpg

still just a WIP :)

[grinch]

eilsoe,
I'm wondering how you made that curved bench. My bench, is just like straight, like most are, but did you manually adjust the cv's into a curve, or is their a technique?
If you could explain, it'd help alot.


And could you guys reccomend some good (free) texture websites?

[eilsoe]

actually my benches are just a series of boxes rotated into place and grouped =)

[grinch]

actually my benches are just a series of boxes rotated into place and grouped =)

thats what i thought, but i was just wondering if there was a technique to create polygons along a curve. Haha thanks

[grinch]

Hey guys,
just wanted to post a really early render of what I have so far. I'm kinda noob to 3d, unlike u guys, so gimme a break ;)

I need textures, you guys know any websites that offer free textures?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/subwaytes.jpg

[BlueSunD]

Looking really good Elisoe!
Thanks Grinch (hope you had a nice trip!) Keep up the great work!
Guess my curiosity is being satisfied, so thanks guys! :D

Anyway, here i´ll post a little list of sites with textures, some are ready to be used, and tileable, some still need to undergo some retouching... or more.... :) Hope it helps!

http://lemog.club.fr/index.html
http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/~pbourke/texture/ (http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/%7Epbourke/texture/)
http://textures.forrest.cz/
http://www.mayang.com/textures/
http://www.davegh.com/blade/davegh.htm
http://3dtronic.webbied.com/
http://digitalcraftsman.com/textureBin/textureBin.htm
http://www.animax.it/#
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/BlueMarble/
http://www.visibleearth.nasa.gov/ (sorry but down at this moment...)
http://gw.marketingden.com/planets/planets.html
http://www.imageafter.com/

Happy texture hunting :pir:

[grinch]

Ah great!!! thanks bluesun!

And I have a question, how do I make geometry become a light source in maya?! I know I've seen it before, but I can't find it now...

[.soulty]

grinch you can use a shader glow material with the material on the object.. let me try to find a tutorial for something for ya.

[grinch]

grinch you can use a shader glow material with the material on the object.. let me try to find a tutorial for something for ya.

Hrmm icic. If you could find a tut, I'd be extremely appreciative.

[3d Nirvana]

You can also use Mental Rey, and check the "final gather" option. Make sure when you use it you set the rays down to like 10 or 20, or it'll take forever to render.
This will actually make all objects emit a certain amount of light depending on their brightness. For example, a stone wall will not make any noticeable light, but a bright white ball (a light bulb) will act as a omni light. I use this in almost all my renders to achieve a more realistic scene.

That shader glow thing isn't what he wants I think. To add it though, open the attributes of the material, and under the special effects menu you just increase the value from 0. That does not make the object a light though, it adds a glow to the object in post (after the render), and so it does no make any actual light. .... i might be thinking of some other glow thing, soulty's way might work as well

I will start my subway soon guys! I love the entries so far! Keep it up!

Cheers!
3dnirvana

[mordaut]

wow these are good...but im just wondering...what are they modelled after? ive never seen any subways like those...

[grinch]

You can also use Mental Rey, and check the "final gather" option. Make sure when you use it you set the rays down to like 10 or 20, or it'll take forever to render.
This will actually make all objects emit a certain amount of light depending on their brightness. For example, a stone wall will not make any noticeable light, but a bright white ball (a light bulb) will act as a omni light. I use this in almost all my renders to achieve a more realistic scene.

That shader glow thing isn't what he wants I think. To add it though, open the attributes of the material, and under the special effects menu you just increase the value from 0. That does not make the object a light though, it adds a glow to the object in post (after the render), and so it does no make any actual light. .... i might be thinking of some other glow thing, soulty's way might work as well

I will start my subway soon guys! I love the entries so far! Keep it up!

Cheers!
3dnirvana


yeah I've known about the glow effect, and thats not exactly what I'm trying to acheive. But thanks for the mental ray technique, I'm gonna try it!

[.soulty]

cant find anything online, check your help files grinch, and i think your right 3d Nirvana your method may be more grinch is looking for, im so rusty in 3d its just nastiness. :(

[grinch]

ahha don't worry about it soulty, i appreciate the effort.
I actually got a bit of help from my dad and some of my edu maya books.
Thanks guys, if i need more help, I'll ask!

[3d Nirvana]

soulty I think your way might be right also, I vaugely remember something about that. Idk, might want to check out both grinch :)

[BlueSunD]

If it ain´t too late... here... http://www.jozvex.com/tutorials/fg.html :)

[grinch]

ah great! thanks sun!!

and I'm putting all my textures together and started putting them in. Oh man my scene is really coming together! It looks great, can't wait to show.

thanks again for teh tut, thats what i needed.

[BlueSunD]

You´re welcome ;)

and...can´t wait to see!

Cheers!

[3d Nirvana]

nice BLUE! That was exactly the site I was looking for. :)

[BlueSunD]

Thanks, a great place for tutorials on maya is http://www.learning-maya.com

[.soulty]

nice link blue.. yep learning-maya is a great resource, make sure you also check out the partners on the right on that learning-maya link. ;)

[grinch]

Aw man guys,
my subway is coming together! I'm currently working on bumpmapping for the walls, and I think I may know how to do it. I'll show when I'm done!

[mpelland]

i am going to have to sadly bow out of this . got a lil done but don't have the time. have fun everyone

[grinch]

Noooooooooooooooooo!!! gah thats two ppl who dropped out... aw

[BlueSunD]

Ladies & gentlemen, we are now 6 days away from the due date!

Hope to see the completed versions of the wips we´ve seen so far, and maybe, of some we haven´t! ;)

Goodluck to everybody!

[eilsoe]

uuh... crap...

*goes to work on entry*

[grinch]

Yeah I've been working on my entry slowly, learning some new things I never knew.
Almost done!

[McGuffin]

I don't think I'll be able to make this one, I'll give it a shot though.

[grinch]

Here's a WIP of my almost completed entry :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/f1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/f3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/f2.jpg

*gonna post in drawing and design

[BlueSunD]

I guess it is kind of hard to try to complete an image that satisfies the mental picture that we have of it. Mostly, because of time, right now I have a lot to do too. But I won´t quit no matter what.... I guess that, either I love too much to work on 3D, or I like to suffer and don´t sleep :krazy: Anyway, good luck to everyone!

Geez Grinch! That´s really cool! I hadn´t reloaded this page until I posted... and I didn´t want to double post :)

Anyway, it´s really neat! Congratulations, the texturing is really nice!

[GreenLantern]

Wow, that is nice grinch. It's pretty detailed. I like the map on the wall.

:thumb:

[squishy]

same here :p:

[grinch]

thanks guys, almost got my final render complete!

[eilsoe]

well I've realized now that I can't get this thing done in time, so here's my not-so-final-but-as-final-as-it-gets images... :)


(as seen through a surv. camera)
http://www.avalon-rev.dk/junk/station2F.jpg


(as rendered through Max)
http://www.avalon-rev.dk/junk/station2FS.jpg


I really wanted to add more to 'em... :(


oh, well, consider them my finals :)


wireframe: www.avalon-rev.dk/junk/wireframe.gif

[grinch]

alright eilsoe, good entry man, pissed that you couldnt get time, but heck, no one has time eh?

Its ok, good work!

[3d Nirvana]

sry guys, i have to pull out. I have a big essay that has been assigned and i cant spend the time needed to make a good entry. sry!

i'll make one later and just post it in showcase :)

[thesparky007]

is any one good at blender3d?

[BlueSunD]

Nice one Elisoe.... really sad you couldn´t tweak it more as you might want it to, but hey, we´ve got our first final image, and it´s really cool! Congratulations!

Those are some sad news 3d Nirvana, but hey, it´ll be really cool if you get the time to showcase something later!

I would like to know who´s still participating, thought.... just curious :P!

If you wonder, ïm still in! :hugegrin:

------------------------------------------------------------------------

And... Sparky, what´s your question? not that I´m an expert or something, but hey we can try to help, at least with tutorials :)

[grinch]

Aw darn!

It's alright nirvana, yet I think the only people in this right now are me, sun, eilsoe, and spark?

[thesparky007]

i downloaded it yesterday and found it pretty
confusing!

i would be glad if anyone can show me some nice tuts
or help me wiht it

[BlueSunD]

Hi Sparky! Well a quick google search turned some results, hope you find them usefull,

Some video tutoriasl, from begginer, to more advanced: http://www.ibiblio.org/bvidtute/

These seem nice, some of the basics of modeling are shown:
http://www.vrotvrot.com/xoom/tutorials.html

And these are introductory tutoriasl to Blender from Blender.org, those look really nice and easy to follow along:
http://www.blender3d.org/Education/index_old.php?sub=

and another one... almost the same
http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Using_Blender.80.0.html

[ya3]

hmm... I may join... If I get time. We'll see :D
Those WIPs are looking excellent, ppl. Especially Eilsoe's :thumb:

btw, if anyone wants to learn a 3d app without any prior knowledge... go CINEMA 4D:beam:

[eilsoe]

ya3, the deadline is thursday ;)

May 10th.

[grinch]

ya3, the deadline is thursday ;)

May 10th.

March 10th ;)

[eilsoe]

right, march 10th :lol:

sorry.. had my head somewhere else at the time... :sure:

[thesparky007]

Hi Sparky! Well a quick google search turned some results, hope you find them usefull,

Some video tutoriasl, from begginer, to more advanced: http://www.ibiblio.org/bvidtute/

These seem nice, some of the basics of modeling are shown:
http://www.vrotvrot.com/xoom/tutorials.html

And these are introductory tutoriasl to Blender from Blender.org, those look really nice and easy to follow along:
http://www.blender3d.org/Education/index_old.php?sub=

and another one... almost the same
http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Using_Blender.80.0.html
thx man!
the 2nd one was really helpful, i ll go home and make them...
once again thank you bluesun

[grinch]

entries due tomorrow, and I don't know what I'm gona do with mine. I want to fix so much, but theres no time, I'll get my final render in tomorrow

[.soulty]

just enter whatever you have on the date and then fix it up after.. no drama, you can always use this piece for a portfolio or something and you can showcase it later.

[BlueSunD]

I´m trying to finish all the work I´ve got so I can finally spend some time to finish my entry. It´s kind of bothering not being able to add all the things you want this time, but soulty´s right, you can do it later. I would like to catch some sleep tonight too... but guess that will have to wait too :P

[thirdworldman]

Nice renders Eilsoe and Grinch--both very dramatic. Here's mine--it feels unfinished but this is all I had time for.

http://www.inmod.com/casey/3dsubway_final.jpg

[thirdworldman]

Oh yeah, I know my bench sucks.

[.soulty]

dope renders so far.. on march 10 when he have the entries we will set up a poll.. keep them coming. oh btw.. when you provide the final render, need to provide the wireframe aswell ;)

[thirdworldman]

Here is my wireframe / project screenshot

http://www.inmod.com/casey/subway_wire.jpg

[.soulty - removed img tags.. lets not make the thread too wide]

[BlueSunD]

nice image thirdworldman! :thumb:

[mlk]

Nice renders Eilsoe and Grinch--both very dramatic. Here's mine--it feels unfinished but this is all I had time for.

http://www.inmod.com/casey/3dsubway_final.jpg

Very groovy. And I like to see XSI work because, well, I haven't seen a lot from this package !

Top notch, my favorite so far.

[grinch]

... OMG...

I'm so pissed at myself. I didn't have time to add anything I wanted, and now my volley looks like crap. But eh, I'm a newb so oh well. I'm gonna keep working on it and posting it in D&D.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/final.jpg

[BlueSunD]

Rendering..... the wait is killing me... :bounce: and I´m killing my cpu :P Hope I´ll still make it on time! :worried:

Very cool image Grinch! Kinda reminds me Max Payne! (I love that game!)

[BlueSunD]

Really sorry everybody, guess I´m the last one to post, I don´t know if I made it on time, but if not tell me and I´ll put the image down. Really sorry everybody... yes again.

Any way my entry :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/BlueSunD/Maya/BSDFinalSubway.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/BlueSunD/Maya/BSDFinalSubway.jpg

and the wires:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/BlueSunD/Maya/FinalPersp.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/BlueSunD/Maya/Final4Views.jpg

[DDD]

pretty cool grinch....gotta work on your lighting a bit...:beam:.

[.soulty]

bluesund.. your wireframes are different than the final render?

[BlueSunD]

I´m really sorry. I uploaded the wrong image, now fixed. Tahnks for the remark soulty.

Guess I better catch some sleep....:tired:

[.soulty]

thats better.. cool, so i'll contact grinch to see if he is happy to get this poll ready.

[grinch]

pretty cool grinch....gotta work on your lighting a bit...:beam:.

ahh man i know...
Maya lighting is so hard to get right, I need to learn mental ray though...
I only know the basics...

Anyone know any good tutorials on "light linking"

[thirdworldman]

By "light linking" do you mean associating lights with specific objects?

[grinch]

Gah BlueSun, I love your render, especially the lighting...

I CAN'T GET THAT!! AHHH I HATE MAYA

[BlueSunD]

You like it? Thanks! Please don´t hate Maya :P, be patient. At first it´s a bit of trial & error, if you started using Max before Maya (I did :)) you´ll know how easy it was doing light linking. But this feature seems to be hard to find if you don´t know where to look, or is it? Give me a minute, I´ll tell you how.

[grinch]

Here's my entry with wire :


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/final.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/wire.jpg

[BlueSunD]

OK, sorry for the delay. First make sure you´re in "Rendering" mode, select the light you want to unlink (at least at firs, since by default when a light is created it lights every object). Now, shift select the object(s) you may want to unlink, now go to Lighting/Shading in the menu bar, and select the option "Break Light Links" and that´s it! Now do a tst render and see the result.To do linking, it the same way but obviously using the "Make light link" option. Hope it helps! And I like your image very much!

[.soulty]

we all done here?

[grinch]

Yes we are soulty!!

Thanks bluesun, I'll try it out

[[uber]]

when is the poll gonna be set up?

[.soulty]

Ok guys Poll is up! :)

I didnt include the wires on the poll since there was a character restriction.. the wires are for those interested in how the scene was created.


Wireframes:

Eilsoe: wireframe (http://www.avalon-rev.dk/junk/wireframe.gif)

BlueSunD: wireframe (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/BlueSunD/Maya/Final4Views.jpg)

Grinch: wireframe (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/wire.jpg)(can you provide a larger screenshot?)

Thirdworldman: wireframe (http://www.inmod.com/casey/subway_wire.jpg)


All the renders looks great, great job everyone...:thumb:

Good luck!

[nobody]

I voted thirdworldman. I'm kind of a sucker for the curved thing, though the train would have to be broken into soo many segments for it to actually corner a corner like that, we'll just assume it'd work :beam:
I liked the texturing and all the most actually, the walls are cool :thumb:

[DarkChild]

great work all of you guys, my choice was between grinch's and thirdworldman. i voted thirdworldman, but i just wanna say i know grinch hasn't done this a lot, so i think you've done an excellent job man :thumb:

[grinch]

great work all of you guys, my choice was between grinch's and thirdworldman. i voted thirdworldman, but i just wanna say i know grinch hasn't done this a lot, so i think you've done an excellent job man :thumb:

aw thanks man, appreciate the compliment!

[thirdworldman]

Haha, I didn't think anyone would actually pick up on that, Pink. Oh, well. Anyway, thanks for the comments and votes. I think everyone did a great job. Eilsoe, awesome wireframe.

[[uber]]

its still a tie between Eilsoe and Thirdworldman...

i voted Eilsoe because the surv. cam was a cool concept...
thirdworldman... you almost got the vote.. but for the fact that no train could travel the curve.... but supreme job regardless...

[lunatic]

OMG these are all amazing! I can't imagine how much work went into these. I know nothing about 3d art/programs so I'm not sure what it takes to make curves and such. I loved Elisoe's for the openess and the pipes in the ceiling, BlueSun's for the tile work, and ThirdWorld's for the colors and curves. But I voted Grinch because the map on the wall is killer and looks very real. And plus I'm a cartographer so it just caught my eye. Makes me want to step in and take a closer look at it.

Great job everyone! This was a cool battle! :thumb:

[grinch]

OMG these are all amazing! I can't imagine how much work went into these. I know nothing about 3d art/programs so I'm not sure what it takes to make curves and such. I loved Elisoe's for the openess and the pipes in the ceiling, BlueSun's for the tile work, and ThirdWorld's for the colors and curves. But I voted Grinch because the map on the wall is killer and looks very real. And plus I'm a cartographer so it just caught my eye. Makes me want to step in and take a closer look at it.

Great job everyone! This was a cool battle! :thumb:

Whoa... Awsome, I'm so suprised that I actually got votes, I'm a newbie, and it feels good to have votes for me! thanks!

[jerez_z]

It was a hard choice between Thirdworldman and Eilsoe... I had to go with Third cause his lighting was cool, and the setup was nice.

[REEF·]

Daayummmm @ ThirdWorldMan. That render looks crispy and fresh mang. You got my vote :sen:.

[DDD]

I voted eilsoe. The reason being his model and render seems more fundamentally sound. Thirdworldwoman's was cool but the proportions were off. All in good work all of ya'll

[grinch]

man we were blown out of the competition...

[3d Nirvana]

woa.... didn't some votes disapear?! I could have sworn grinch had 6 votes..

[amitgeorge]

by far the best battle i have seen in recent times

great work

[DDD]

If ya'll do like a character model contest next time, I think I will be in. But we will need like a 4 week due date...lol. Good job all.

[grinch]

If ya'll do like a character model contest next time, I think I will be in. But we will need like a 4 week due date...lol. Good job all.

Sounds good 3d, I'll actually look toward a battle like that.

It'll be my first character project, but I'll be looking foward to it.

[grinch]

I'm kind of dissapointed people are voting due to realistic proportions... I wanted people to vote on artistic show

[thirdworldman]

I'd love to do a 3d character battle--it's been a while since I've done any character work--I'm in. Definately a four week deadline, at LEAST.

[DDD]

well someone issue the challenge. We can pick up where the BB contest was at. Basically a boxing robot or something like that. Not sure if we want to do realism and all that tho. I can pretty much only do it on weekends so a 4-6 week time frame sounds good.

[tucker]

Id be up for a character modeling battle :) Then i can overcome my fear of battles :X

[grinch]

I'm going to host the next character 3d battle.

What specs do you guys want?

How about 6-7 weeks for due date?

Any themes on character design?

[Deaddocus]

Modern knights, :D *ducks*

[GreenLantern]

Do something easier.

How about a vehicle, computer case, or a building.

[Deaddocus]

Uhm, 3D Character design for a building?

[GreenLantern]

:h:

No i'm talking about making a thing instead of a person. Character design means making a character (person) or some sort.

[DDD]

hhmmm.....architecture would be cool. But I think that would focus to much on the rendering than the modelling. I really would like to do a character contest. SOmething robotic that leaves the modeller to make it as detailed or as not detailed. But it is up to you. I need to add more 3d pieces to my folio, so I am really going to do it the this time lol. Since the time frame will be so long. We should try to have intermediate deadlines or WIP posts to keep interest in the contest.

[GreenLantern]

A robot would be cool. I would do that.

[thirdworldman]

I'm all for doing a robot; I'm also for a six week deadline with intermediary deadlines; the longer the better though--this is very time consuming and i'm going away for a few weeks.

[GreenLantern]

Yes, the farther away the deadline the better. I would like to really put some time into it.

[grinch]

ok made thread, lets do this...

And are the polls done for this battle?

[grinch]

Move this to Completed Battles?

[.soulty]

moved it, status closed now.. ;)

[evljeenyiss]

truthfully, Bluesun I think yours was modelled the best, you just need a better renderer/ lighting.

[Ineedsleep]

at last something Im not embarassed to submit!! like the 25 line code contest :hugegrin: