digital box 3.0

[minimallwario]

http://www.digitalbox.gr/v3/about.asp

they stole my wallpaper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[GreenLantern]

To fill out a proper report, i'm going to need a link to your wallpaper. ;)

But really I would like to see yours.

[minimallwario]

http://www.mwgraphics.it
download section...

i'm crying!

[simplistik]

LoL... email them... also... it's kinda funny cause they didn't even bother to take out part of your website address. LAME.

[GreenLantern]

Well I emailed them and told them what I thought of it. :evil:

[minimallwario]

big thx!!!

[[uber]]

thats a bif form of flattery... man that kinda suxs though... this need to go to the ripped forum.... cause that is what it is....

[simplistik]

thats a bif form of flattery... man that kinda suxs though... this need to go to the ripped forum.... cause that is what it is....

LoL... that's where it's at...

[DDD]

dont you offer it for free download to be used whereever?

[minimallwario]

not for a commercial site!
he took a part of the wallpaper, within my name or something else!

[kikon]

Yes, you should threaten them. However, you should have stated that clearly on your webpage to begin with. Otherwise, it's all free content. Be more careful next time.

[minimalistik]

minimallwario, the unforunate issue is that you havent stated where and how the wallpapers are to be used either personally or commerically. For DigitalBox, they would have assumed those wallpapers you have made to be free of use in any form. Its very unforunate that they have taken your wallpaper but you cant really do anything in the legal perspective. However, if you can email them and talk to them, hopefully, they can be happy to take it off and use something of theirs. Things you need to consider:

1) Place (c) 2004 by minimallwario in small print somewhere inside each of your work, just to let people know its yours without destroying the overall art.
2) In the Downloads section, mention alongside the download (e.g. left side of your download page) "Disclaimer: these wallpapers are to be used soley for personal purposes and not be be used commerically in any form". Something like that.
3) The splash page you have put: "MWgraphics.it all rights reserved". Not clear it enough. Put: "Copyright (c) 2004. MWGraphics. All Rights Reserved." You can even further put something like "All work in this site are created by minimallwario and cannot be reproduced."

edit: About Digitalbox, the rotating cube bounce is cheesy. I think its here on Kirupa somewhere, in the Lab?

[minimallwario]

you're in right :(

but i tell them to remove it and they don't answer me...

:( :( :( :( :(

[mlkedave]

how did u find that?
I just want to know so i can check out and see if my site has any rips lol

[minimalistik]

but i tell them to remove it and they don't answer me...


I'll see if I can do something about it ;)

[minimallwario]

thx MINIMALISTIK :)

[agrigo]

Hello,

My name is Sophie from digitalbox

I don't understand why you crying minimalwarrio ...

I think that your site is open for every need and every download, that you haven't stated where and how the wallpapers are to be used.

In addition, the word "stole" is heavy for us. I find it to your site, i like it and i take it.
You and all the others can take anything of our site, without any problem of us.

In years of "open source" you trying to secure your rights about what ? You have paint this pattern and create this wallpaper ? Of course, not.

The possible way to find it, is to scan from a magazine, after that you proccesed it to photoshop, and that's it. Under this thought, you are stolen this wallpaper.

Please, be more open mind, my friend.

[Digitalosophy]

Hello,

My name is Sophie from digitalbox

I don't understand why you crying minimalwarrio ...

I think that your site is open for every need and every download, that you haven't stated where and how the wallpapers are to be used.

In addition, the word "stole" is heavy for us. I find it to your site, i like it and i take it.
You and all the others can take anything of our site, without any problem of us.

In years of "open source" you trying to secure your rights about what ? You have paint this pattern and create this wallpaper ? Of course, not.

The possible way to find it, is to scan from a magazine, after that you proccesed it to photoshop, and that's it. Under this thought, you are stolen this wallpaper.

Please, be more open mind, my friend.

Just curious, is your site a rip too?
:to:

[3d Nirvana]

Thinking that you can use his work agrigo is puerile and sophomoric. His work is copyrighted by default and there for he holds the rights to it regardless of the fact that it is available for download.

I suggest removing that picture from your site immediately. Your argument will indubitably loose in a court of law. I advise a sincere apology to minimalwarrio.

Regards,
3dnirvana

[aveceva]

wheres the wallpaper? I dont see it.

[3d Nirvana]

yay he took it off!

[evileks]

Everything you make is copy-righted by law, so good luck in court if you ever rip anything :p

[minimalistik]

Hello,

My name is Sophie from digitalbox

I don't understand why you crying minimalwarrio ...

I think that your site is open for every need and every download, that you haven't stated where and how the wallpapers are to be used.

In addition, the word "stole" is heavy for us. I find it to your site, i like it and i take it.
You and all the others can take anything of our site, without any problem of us.

In years of "open source" you trying to secure your rights about what ? You have paint this pattern and create this wallpaper ? Of course, not.

The possible way to find it, is to scan from a magazine, after that you proccesed it to photoshop, and that's it. Under this thought, you are stolen this wallpaper.

Please, be more open mind, my friend.


Your attitudes certainly do not reflect your company as a representative and responding so unprofessionally. From what I see at your website, you certainly show some credentials and work. But I find it hard to believe that you didnt steal his graphic. Keep in mind even though he did not state how the images were to be used whether corporate or personal, its classified as intellectual property. On his side, it is his fault for not clarifying clearly enough for its usuage but it isnt his fault that you ignored the fact you should have asked permission to use. Isnt it a basic rule or concept that when you want to borrow things of another person, that you ask permission? If not, don't be saying you didnt steal his graphic.



In years of "open source" you trying to secure your rights about what ? You have paint this pattern and create this wallpaper ? Of course, not.


Its called protecting your own work under International Copyright Laws so people will not try and manipulate and steal indivduals work.



The possible way to find it, is to scan from a magazine, after that you proccesed it to photoshop, and that's it. Under this thought, you are stolen this wallpaper.


People dont try and scan images and than touchup it in Photoshop. You think members here are stupid enough to not see when its not their work? Please dont be a hypocrite. Is this how you operate at your company?

[agrigo]

We removed the wallpaper from our site.

I don't aggree with your opinion Minimalistic, but it's ok.

Let me ask you something (general question)

what about your macromedia flash mx that installed in your computer ? Is it purchased or not ?
Your adobe photoshop?
Your windows xp ?
Your Corel Draw ?

I think that i "stolen" a wallpaper, that created with a "stolen" software.

It is absolutely fair. Eh, Minimalwarrio ???

[The Don]

We removed the wallpaper from our site.

I don't aggree with your opinion Minimalistic, but it's ok.

Let me ask you something (general question)

what about your macromedia flash mx that installed in your computer ? Is it purchased or not ?
Your adobe photoshop?
Your windows xp ?
Your Corel Draw ?

I think that i "stolen" a wallpaper, that created with a "stolen" software.

It is absolutely fair. Eh, Minimalwarrio ???
Wait, are you assuming that the wallpaper was created with pirated software? Because that's a very stupid assumption to make.

[minimalistik]

what about your macromedia flash mx that installed in your computer ? Is it purchased or not ?
Your adobe photoshop?
Your windows xp ?
Your Corel Draw ?

I think that i "stolen" a wallpaper, that created with a "stolen" software.

It is absolutely fair. Eh, Minimalwarrio ???


Let me be clear about this situation as much as I can. Your question about my applications. My Macromedia Flash MX application was retail purchased, my Adobe Photoshop is retail purchased, my Windows XP was not purchased because HP preinstalls it on the system and I dont have Corel Draw. I do not see why you have asked these questions which has nothing to do with Minimalwarrio's graphic. Lets assume that Minimalwarrio is using an illegal version of Adobe Photoshop or whatever application he uses. What does that have anything to do with you stealing his graphic? If he using illegal software to create these graphics, that is not us to judge or the forum to deal with. If he is using illegal software, that is his own problem to deal with if he is question by Adobe or other representatives. I also do not think he can be stupid enough not to buy retail packages if he was to be a freelance designer working for corporate agencies or clients. Dont disfigure my vision or anyone elses vision offcourse about his graphic work. You may argue to any level or height but the underlining issue is you have clearly used his graphic in the Downloads section. I can see Minimalwarrio's fault for not stating a disclaimer but you should have atleast emailed him to see what he thinks. If you say what you are here:


Digitalbox are an energetic and highly skilled web design company passionate about creating entrancing websites that transform your ability to communicate with your audience.

Our service extends far beyond web design. We harness the power of the internet to help companies of all sizes and industries to communicate and market themselves more effectively.

We offering comprehensive web site design, flash design, e-commerce solutions, multimedia cd-rom, content management solutions, database integration.


why dont you create something creative yourself to show innovation in your company?

Your comments have been unfair and without any respect to Minimalwarrio or any of our members in this thread. If you are willing to continue with your comments about applications been used illegally as your focus, think again.

p.s. I wouldnt mind if you would be more clearer with your English.

[agrigo]

ok, maybe you don't understand my message.

ok, the wallpaper of minimalwarrio has been removed.

But please, when you have the time, read this article
http://www.manetas.com/iamgonnacopy/mtext.htm

Maybe you understand, what i trying to say, and maybe you think deeply about intellectual properties.

thank you about our conversation.

[minimallwario]

thx for removing my CROPPED wallpaper...
it's strange that the cropped-out part it's the part with the name of the site...
thx also to the people that supported me and helped me...
i'll insert a big ad to tell that it's a copyrighted material..
thx to all!

[3d Nirvana]

you were assuming that MINIMALISTIK. stole his software agrigo? Sounds like you did or something and assumed everyone else did too.

I have all legal perchased versions of all my software :hugegrin:

[3d Nirvana]

that article is retarted btw agrigo. All this stuff it made by hard working individuals, and to just steel it is wrong. Sounds reallllly comunist to me :).

All the arguements in that article dont make sense!

[billystar]

But please, when you have the time, read this article
http://www.manetas.com/iamgonnacopy/mtext.htm

Maybe you understand, what i trying to say, and maybe you think deeply about intellectual properties.



i have never in all my time doing industrial design read such a crock of **** as that article.

frankly your attitude as a 'professional' is shocking... you clealrly have nothing of worth to protect through ip, otherwise your attitude would be different.

if you came up with an idea from your own hard work which you could commercialise and profit from there is no way you would allow me to copy you and take your potential earnings...

i suggest you grow up

[aveceva]

who cares about an article. Its so stupid. How bout mininalwarrio goes to court with you about this, you can have your little article defence :)

Sometimes i wonder why arrogant, iddiotic people like you try to become designers, why don't you bag my groceries :)

( that was a bit harsh but seriously...man.)

[[uber]]

geez.... this is so stupid.... digitalbox.... i would think that you would want to be original, certain things get gleaned from the web using google image search all the time... and thats ok. But i can't see how i would take a show piece from a graphic artist and put it on my site. i can't concieve that i could ever do that... if i am not creative enough to make my own wallpaper... i don't need to be in this business.

[booler]

you know the site had at the very LEAST should have put in a credit for the author.

And how hard is it to email someone and ask for permission to use it???

I mean geez if email is hard for you how much of a pain is web design?