Scott Peterson news

[prit]

wow, he's getting the death penalty. What do you think?

(Not whether or not he did it, but what his punishment should be)

[Digitalosophy]

bout time a scum bag get's the death penalty.

[gonzales]

i say life in prison. i dont believe in the death penalty.

[prit]

i say life in prison. i dont believe in the death penalty.me too

[paradox244]

Im sure laci didnt believe in the death penalty either, and look what happened to her. Odd part is she didnt kill anyone and was sentenced to death, only seems fair that a murderer suffer the same fate.

Secondly I support the death penalty as it allows my tax dollars to go to something important like education of children, instead of degrees programs for inmates. I have a feeling this thread will be killed as it falls a little close to the Ordered posts of yesteryear.

[gonzales]

life in prison is worse than death. ask anyone who has spent any amount of time there (note: martha stewart doesnt count...)

[paradox244]

hmmm no need to to care(your in prison for life, what are they gonna do? Take away your birthday?), a free place to sleep(sure it might be with bubba but hey it's climate controlled it's not like your freezing your sore butt off), free food(3 hots daily oh and they even get ketchup and mustard), all on someone elses dime(thats right you the taxpayer pay for it all). I think I might know a few people that we could help with the money we spend on rapists, thieves, and murderers, and most of them wouldn't complain about just one meal a day, it doesnt even have to be warm.

I don't think either of us are going to change our minds on this topic so with that I conclude...to each his own.

[wizard]

Normally I would vote for the death penalty... but in this case, I say let him suffer in prison. :td:

Or, they could send him off to Iraq... someone *insurgents* there will take care of him reeeal good. :pleased:

[RelandR]

hmmmm ... people who think prison is some feature rich long-term summer camp haven't a clue as to what is the truth.
What's more - no matter how guilty someone appears, we could be wrong and statisticaly often are, and not just an isolated incident or two ...
>> read this << (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=412&scid=6)
(edited for sake of a better link)


“ A convicted man may be found to have been innocent; if he was executed, the penalty cannot be reversed …Thus, though (nearly) all penalties are irreversible, the death penalty, unlike others, is irrevocable as well … Despite all precautions, errors will occur in judicial proceedings: The innocent may be found guilty, or the guilty rich may more easily escape conviction … However, these injustices do not reside in the penalties inflicted but in their maldistribution … Thus injustice is not an objection to the death penalty but to the distributive process. ” --Ludwig Wittgenstein

... if that is not enough an incentive, then consider that executions cost taxpayers an average of ±$24 million apiece (waaayyy more than prison)

>> see this << (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7)

[berkoWitZ]

i say life in prison. i dont believe in the death penalty.

I agree too, what´s the point of a death penalty??? living inside a jail for the rest of ur days must be like living in hell.....this question its hard to answer..

[paradox244]

As I said before RelandR to each his own, all the links to sites for or against the death penalty will not change my mind.

[Yeldarb]

Secondly I support the death penalty as it allows my tax dollars to go to something important like education of children, instead of degrees programs for inmates. I have a feeling this thread will be killed as it falls a little close to the Ordered posts of yesteryear.This isn't really a valid point since putting someone to death costs more money than to support them for the rest of their lives in prison.

[paradox244]

Really? What source do you use? The problem with comparing trails is every one of them is different, OJ's trial cost nearly $20 million. But Simon Sue (death penalty, CO, Not Guilty plea) cost only $4 million. In every case when you compare the cost of 2 trials you get an Apples vs Oranges situation.

And again, I have my reasons for support of the death penalty and you have yours in opposition, neither of us will change.

[Yeldarb]

Actually I'm not against the death penalty ;)

But I don't think that particular argument holds up.

Let's just say that the average cost to execute someone is one million dollars (the actual number is probably much higher). In 2003, the poverty rate in the United States for a single person was $9,183. Let's add $900 to that just for good measure. To get that up to the 1 million dollar mark, that person would have to live for 100 years in prison.

(source: http://www.census.gov/hhes/poverty/threshld/thresh02.html )

[paradox244]

Oh well then in that case, you smell funny, and your opinion doesnt count cause your name is spelled backwards ;P :trout:

[Raydred]

Who cares! He was convicted of a Horrible crime let the Jury decide, either way hes still screwed for life.

[DariusMonsef]

How can you figure it costs over $1 Million Dollars to execute somebody?

I mean lethal injection... should only costs a few thousand dollars for the syrum, needle and guy to inject it.

As for life in Prison, It costs about $40,000 a year per prisoner. So let's figure Scott lives another 40 years in there: $1,600,000.

[oceans11]

This case pretty much relied on circumstantial evidence. Had Scott at the least made a statement before they reach a verdict, that would have been a life decision.

I mean a blank face , no comment reaction is worse than showing negative emotions.

[oceans11]

life in prison is worse than death. ask anyone who has spent any amount of time there (note: martha stewart doesnt count...)
LOL! Yeah, practially it is. But the very thought of playing God and ending a life unnaturally makes it more tragic of an ending. Dura Lex, Sed Lex.

[RelandR]

@Raydred:
since 1973 117 people have been exonerated after being convicted **beyond a reasonable doubt** ... who knows how many now and in the past have not been lucky enough to have new evidence found out, we'll never know for sure if at all.

@PrettyBoy:
The actual list price for the injection and it's administration is hardly where the costs of capitol cases starts and ends. Read the link (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=45&did=385) .

[telekinesis]

I'm glad it's the death penatly. Sure jail sucks major, but I would rather him go to hell sooner. You know, so he has time to suffer and get prepared for when I die and go there to give him real torture.

Baby/Wife killer can hang from a rope.

Plus I doubt Californians want to pay taxes so that he can avoid hell for a few years. Wouldn't mind if they threw him in general population though. The problem would solve itself. Even the scumbags already in there hate baby/wife killers. Figures.

[GreenLantern]

Fry him.

Show the world what happens when you kill your wife and child. Maybe it will convince somebody who is thinking about doing it, not to.

[garyzero]

I used to believe in the death penalty. But unless they bring back hanging or some other horrible way to kill them then I say life in prison is far more severe.

For most killers, I'm sure getting the death penalty is far easier than spending the rest of your life in prison.

I think the best way is to let her family kill him.

[SlowRoasted]

I up in the air on my stance toward the death penalty, though leaning a little bit for it. Ive been hearing that they were missing a lot of key evidence on this case and it scares me to think that this guy could be innocent.

I do think its retarded to spend a million dollars killiing someone with some expensive concoction of gas or lethal injection. Just do it the old way, guilotine, or find some other cheap way of instant death. Spending all that money to kill someone is an absolute waste of tax money. Just dont let the squeemish people see people being put to death and everyone should be alright.

[Keaney]

Hello,

Sorry for this post but what did this guy do? I'll just click the death penalty anyways.. "/

[SlowRoasted]

I clicked death

[RelandR]

:sure: it is not the method of execution that costs so much :sure:

" Spending all that money to kill someone is an absolute waste of tax money "
rings true esp. when the system isn't reliable in the first place (re:100% accuracy)

..what a bloodthirsty lot we seem to have 'round here :stunned:

[gpdesigner]

Secondly I support the death penalty as it allows my tax dollars to go to something important like education of children, instead of degrees programs for inmates. I have a feeling this thread will be killed as it falls a little close to the Ordered posts of yesteryear.

funny thing is ... it costs more to keep a person on Death Row than it is to Jail them for life
gp

[SlowRoasted]

seems like everyone is getting their facts from different sources. that sounds far fetched that keeping somone on death row costs more than holding them for life. Do they get caviar and pedicures every day on death row?

[gpdesigner]

I think the death penalty is wrong for the same reasons most people want to use it.
"It is wrong to take a human life!"
Putting someone to death (IMO) would only satisfy the family of the victims with retribution, were as everyone else (no vested interest) just gets to satisfy thier morbid curiousity of seeing some die. The death penalty is not a deterant.
If you are religious in anyway, you know it is Gods right alone to pass Judgement on us. Man has no say, mans only god given ability is to imprison another man for life but not right to take that life.
On the other hand, if you are not religious, then after death is what... nothing?....Blackness..? Then what is the punishment in Death?
Again it just boils down to retribution and morbid curiousity.
justr a thought
gp

[hoodz]

Fry him.

Show the world what happens when you kill your wife and child. Maybe it will convince somebody who is thinking about doing it, not to.


HELL YEAH!!!! let him ride the lightning or whatever just kill him too!!!

[SlowRoasted]

You say God, but which God are you talking about?

I dont agree that people are trying "to satisfy thier morbid curiousity of seeing some die." I would say the main reasons would be not wanting to pay for them to sit in prison and not wanting to have someone like that walk to streets.

[gpdesigner]

You say God, but which God are you talking about?

I dont agree that people are trying "to satisfy thier morbid curiousity of seeing some die." I would say the main reasons would be not wanting to pay for them to sit in prison and not wanting to have someone like that walk to streets.

cool... ( I respect your opinions)
I think it is safe to say there is only one god.. call him or her what you want ..dress him in whatever clothing fits, it's the same entity.. and his teachings are pretty much the same... "love each other".
But I think the rest of the statement you just wrote is a bit scary. Seems youwould want to end a human life just because you don't want to spend money on them... think about that for a second... what kind of race have we become if that is what it all boils down to... wanting to save some money
Trust me ... and I think you know as well, that some of your "Tax Dollars" are being spent on a lot more useless projects than imprisonment.
Hey but that's just me...
gp

[T-O]

bout time a scum bag get's the death penalty.

same here.

[SlowRoasted]

You can't put every religions God into one box. The God I worship as a Christian is very different from the wicken God or some of those Norse religions that believe there is a different heaven for warriors. The teachings vary greatly over the world.

I dont want to end someone's life for money, i want to keep those people that are beyond rehabilitation off the streets. The tax money is just another incentive. There are serial killers, murderers, sexual predators out there that are never going to change.

[fester8542]

:lol: and to think the ordered forum was closed :h:

I voted for it.
(I know you are all completely shocked)

[gpdesigner]

You can't put every religions God into one box. The God I worship as a Christian is very different from the wicken God or some of those Norse religions that believe there is a different heaven for warriors. The teachings vary greatly over the world.

True... but here you are refering to beliefs I think... and you are right, you can't put all beliefs in one box, but the idea of the supreme being is the same.


I dont want to end someone's life for money, i want to keep those people that are beyond rehabilitation off the streets.


And this is what life in prison is all about



The tax money is just another incentive.

Money should never be an incentive for Murder, justified or not


There are serial killers, murderers, sexual predators out there that are never going to change.

And this is why the death penalty is not and will never be a deterant.
I am not saying you are wrong.. just I think the death penalty is useless,
and imagine if what RelandR said was true for even one person... suppose one person was excucuted wrongly... what makes that right?
gp

[gpdesigner]

:lol: and to think the ordered forum was closed :h:

good point... I'll stop
gp

[SlowRoasted]

I agree with a lot of what you say gp. Ive got to admit, im still evaluating my stance on the subject. :puzzle:

I dont see whats wrong with us just discussing something, we are being nice about it :azn:

[Disco-Stu]

I'm really surprised this story got as much coverage as it did for the last couple years. There have been far more brutal killings in recent memory. There are probobly 30 cases of spouses killing their partner when they get pregnant. Of course, it's horrible and disgusting, but why did it get so much media attention? Ah well. Thus is the perpetual bull**** cycle of modern TV news.

[macneilslt]

Is it really fair for one person, or a group of people to decide the fate of someones life? Since I also have read the cost of executions after appeals is often greater than the cost of life in prison, I'd say life in prison.

[SlowRoasted]

Yeah it is odd that it got so much attention. It seems like they pick one case and follow it through its conclusion. Im sure after this one is all over they will find another to hype up.

[CanadianGuy]

Wow! I'm shocked that so many people are for the death penalty.

I think we can all agree that we are imperfect and we've all made mistakes. What if the jury got it wrong? It really blows my mind that so many people are so stupid and set in their ways that they can't accept the truth. The truth is that no one knows 100% that he is guilty or not except for him and being 99.9999% sure just isn't good enough to justify an irreversible punishment.

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

[oceans11]

The truth is that no one knows 100% that he is guilty or not except for him and being 99.9999% sure just isn't good enough to justify an irreversible punishment.
You are right, there had been no first hand physical or scientific proof linking to scott being murderer. However this is a case based on circumstantial evidence, had Scott been more transparent to his emotions as a father, at least said his piece to the jury, it would have been life.

Nevertheless the final decision rests on the presiding judge come feb 25 next year.

[oceans11]

We have to thank the psychic who was able to locate bodies of laci and conner (exact shore exact location)

http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:ERxGI86mvgYJ:www.courttv.com/trials/peterson/072204_crier_ctv.html+laci+peterson+psychic&hl=en

You may not believe it but it's true. (Psychic detectives @ courtTV)
Her objective was only to find the missing bodies, had it been finding the murderer, there could have been stronger links.

http://www.findlaci2003.us/psychic-peterson.html
http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm394907.html

[telekinesis]

Is it really fair for one person, or a group of people to decide the fate of someones life? Since I also have read the cost of executions after appeals is often greater than the cost of life in prison, I'd say life in prison.Was it really fair for one person (Scott) to decide the fate of his wife and child?

:sigh:

I wish they could have executions on Paper View. Should last longer than a Tyson fight.

:P

[mjULTRA]

Of course, it's horrible and disgusting, but why did it get so much media attention?
Regarding the amount of publicity that the Peterson Case and other similiar cases get:

I think Chris Rock summed it up best in his most recent Comedy DVD - "Its all a distraction to take your mind off of the war...."

:gm:

[telekinesis]

Chris Rock is the best.

Cool new footer Maj!

[dgrhm]

Regarding the amount of publicity that the Peterson Case and other similiar cases get:

I think Chris Rock summed it up best in his most recent Comedy DVD - "Its all a distaction to take your mind off of the war...."

:gm:
War? What war? There's a war on? You'd never know it with the way the media covers things like the Peterson trial over the War in Afghanistan. ;) (There's one in Iraq, too? Sheesh!)

Although I'm not a fan of using the death penalty, I think it should be used sparingly and in extreme cases.

For a man to kill his pregnant wife without remorse on Christmas Eve is sick. If the death penalty is legal in a state, it should be up to the jury to pick the criminal's fate. The judge is the last word on the jury's decision.

Wonder what the next show trial of the century will be?

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I do miss the "ordered" forum. I wonder what got it canned? Someone go ballistic?

[Pomme_]

I don't even know who the poor bastard is, so I guess I'll go for the "frying" option, especially since I don't have to justify myself for those choices.

[SlowRoasted]

The next one is going to be the michael jackson case:lol:

[Pomme_]

death to MJ too. thank you...
A rapist doesn't deserve better.

[SlowRoasted]

i dont know whether to think of him as incredibly irresponsible and stupid for taking kids into his bed or to think of him as a sick molesting freak. I dont know if he really did it or not, havent seen all the evidence. Whether he did it or not he is stupid for putting himself in that kind of situation.