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vts31
October 20th, 2002, 01:49 AM
painter and photoshop :)

lostinbeta
October 20th, 2002, 02:13 AM
Very nice as usual edwin :)

calaway42
October 20th, 2002, 02:18 AM
gosh!! you experts!! what do i need to learn to be able to graphic design like you guys!?!? help!~:P

lostinbeta
October 20th, 2002, 02:19 AM
I need to get me that painter program :P

If it is as expensive as Photoshop I don't think I will be getting it anytime soon though. Too many other things I am saving up for.

And Edwin is the only expert here :)

calaway42
October 20th, 2002, 02:24 AM
beta! i learned pretty much everything relate to Flash from you! :)

Beta for US Prez!!

calaway42
October 20th, 2002, 02:25 AM
what painter program?

lostinbeta
October 20th, 2002, 02:28 AM
Edwin used Painter and Photoshop to make that image.

I think the latest one is Painter 7.

I am sure you learned from other people too calaway:)

calaway42
October 20th, 2002, 02:41 AM
i found painter 5.. sounds alrite?

lostinbeta
October 20th, 2002, 02:44 AM
http://www.procreate.com/

You can find Painter 7 there. They have a trial... I might just download that :)

Anywho... I think painter is good for textures and things or something. David told me the difference before but I can't remember what exactly he said now.

vts31
October 20th, 2002, 02:53 AM
about painter.

1. version 5 sux.

2. ive never used 7. but i think its pretty good.

i use 6.

lostinbeta
October 20th, 2002, 02:55 AM
I am seriously considering downloading 7 just to try out the program :)

Thanks for the version info edwin, I might just search around for version 6 and see if I can get it cheaper than version 7 ( US$479.00 ).

eilsoe
October 20th, 2002, 07:51 AM
What makes Painter different from Photoshop?

I've never tried/seen Painter before...


Any odds'n ends in Painter that Photoshop doesn't have?

telekinesis
October 20th, 2002, 07:52 AM
Get the educational version! Much cheaper and is fully functional!

vts31
October 20th, 2002, 03:33 PM
photoshop is more editing oriented while painter is more create oriented. Painter is designed to be used with a wacom tablet, so if you dont have one its pretty lame. Painter 5 sucks because the layers were retarded, Painter 6's layers are much more like photoshop.

lostinbeta
October 20th, 2002, 04:02 PM
Ah, so painter is really the best if you have a tablet, but if you don't have one, then you shouldn't bother????

vts31
October 20th, 2002, 10:08 PM
correct...and holy crap u have a lot of posts!

lostinbeta
October 20th, 2002, 10:09 PM
I don't have THAT many posts :P

telekinesis
October 20th, 2002, 10:40 PM
Oh shut up, you have a *beep* load of posts. :crazy:

lostinbeta
October 20th, 2002, 10:48 PM
Censoring yourself now dan?

telekinesis
October 20th, 2002, 10:53 PM
Hellz yea, I hate those **** start things, beeps work well!

lostinbeta
October 20th, 2002, 10:56 PM
Oh... yeah that makes sense. I just change the spelling so it still shows, it is just grammatically incorrect :P

calaway42
October 21st, 2002, 12:17 AM
my question is.. how do you guys start on ur piece?.. i mean do you outline with pencil tool first .. or what?

lostinbeta
October 21st, 2002, 12:23 AM
As for me... I go buck-wild

I start off with something, add something to it, add some more touches and voila.

Sometimes I start with a custom shape, sometimes I start with the line tool, sometimes the paintbrush, gradient, whatever.

Just try stuff out and go nuts.


As for Edwin... he just has to think and his computer makes what is in his head.

calaway42
October 21st, 2002, 12:26 AM
heh.. i want edwin's comp!!:)

lostinbeta
October 21st, 2002, 12:27 AM
Sometimes I have an idea of what I am going for in my head. In a case like that I do everything I can and try and find anyway I can do achieve a near effect as the one in my head.

But most of the time I let my imagination take me where it wants at that moment.

It isn't edwins comp that does it.... it is part of edwins amazing ability :beam:

RenaissanceGirl
October 21st, 2002, 02:59 PM
I've been using Painter Classic/7 on and off. The interface is a little hard to get around, since it bears little resemblance to other graphic software. However, I discovered it is more oriented towards traditional art.

And I agree with Ed - not much use for it if you don't have a tablet... unless you're really good with a mouse.

vts31
October 22nd, 2002, 04:17 PM
i always start a drawing or anything, with primitives. Usually circles and curves because they are organik..if i want something more rigid i uses cubes...then i try to visualize that primitives potential and how i can link it to something else alter in the composition...after i do that 1 of 2 things happen, I either do it or i get scared ima ruin it and just go work on something else.

eilsoe
October 22nd, 2002, 04:19 PM
in 90 percent of the times, I start out with clouds.. B&W clouds...

lostinbeta
October 22nd, 2002, 04:22 PM
I start off with clouds a lot also.... I also do start with circles and squares many times and just edit them from there.

vts31
October 22nd, 2002, 04:23 PM
wtf! u guys are fast!

eilsoe
October 22nd, 2002, 04:24 PM
*wrooommm!!*

:P:P:P:P:P

*post*post*post*post*post*post*post*post*post*post *

Huh? Who goes there?