Visions on life

[eilsoe]

Am I the only one who suspects Purgatory is our current life on earth?


Second: My old math teacher from grade school had this fantasy, that humans was an experiment. That we were placed on earth by some other life form. (???)

[pom]

1. Dunno.
2. Ever read Philip Jose Farmer? Something called "The world of the River" or something like that? You'll love it. Sci-fi like they don't write it anymore :*(

[reverendflash]

I, at one time, subscribed to that plantation theory... :-\ there are many who still do :bandit:

There is a mojor religeon that believes that all spirits live on the same plane, just that some are "veiled" from view from us...
:q:

my feeling is that would make it awfully crowded if all of the spirits from all of time walked around at the same time... :P

kinda makes me feel like I do when I get on a public bus in ChinaTown... :) :) :)

Rev:elderly:

[eilsoe]

Not to start a whole religeous descussion here..

but if God is supposed to be kind and all, why is he letting his very creation destroy itself?


Just consider the tensions, ONE nuclear war, and we're gone...



If indeed we are made by another lifeform in the universe, they must have some sick humour...

[bit-101]

don't blame everything on god. if he does exist, he gave us free will. we are responsible for 90% of the crap that happens to us. (i'd say 100%, but there's some stuff even I don't want to own up to :evil: )

[reverendflash]

it all depends on which definition of God you are speaking of... :-\

The Old Testament was a vengeful God, the New Testament is a much kinder God... :-\

and that is only the Christian view :x

Rev:elderly:

[eilsoe]

how can a religion just "change" their God?


hey, my name's Christian too!! :P

[reverendflash]

I don't know, ask the Pope... :x

same reason it used to be 'wrong' for blacks to hold the priesthood in the LDS church... :-\ then all of the sudden, a few years back... revelation happens, and its' now okay... :q:

I have spent many years trying to figure this one out... :beard:

Rev:elderly:

[bit-101]

that always got me too. for hundreds of years, it is considered a sin to do X. if you do X, you go to hell.

ok, so all those people who did X, are now burning in hell.

then pope such and such comes along and says, it is now ok to do X.

so, is that retroactive? did a whole bunch of burning souls get a reprieve and allowed into heaven? or do they still burn? if so, they must be pretty pissed to look up and see all these new kids doing X and going to heaven, while they burn.

just a bunch of rhetorical questions.

[pom]

How to combine a religious talk and a class declaration in C++...?!? Dunno. The worst thing is that I'm starting to like C++ :cyclops: Sorry, that was off topic.

[eilsoe]

Hmm, here's another one:

The human race is seriously screwed, if we are to obey the ten commandments PRECISELY!...

agree?

then like 99.9999999 percent of us will go straight to hell!

[reverendflash]

that is why I could not be a cop (one of my best friends is a cop, in my neighborhood <i>not ritzy</i>)...

If I arrest someone today for a crime that becomes not a crime while that person is in jail awaiting trial, doesn't that make me a paid hypocrate? :q:

The US Gov't experimented with LSD, then arrested the people who ran the tests once they determined that it was a "bad thing" :q:

more retorical statements... :cool:


Peace to all,

Rev
:elderly:

[eilsoe]

Oh that's just plain stupid arresting those people!

[reverendflash]

nobody said cops/gov't weren't stupid... :P :P :P

"give me a doughnut, that'll make it better"

:pirate: :pirate:

Rev:elderly:

[eilsoe]

haha! Yep! :P


How'z the situation over there with Bush and everything?

[reverendflash]

with King George?

I'm trying to take him with a grain of salt right now... =) otherwise I might end up sounding like Phil :P :P

just kidding Phil - we need you out there watching and learning... =)

Rev:elderly:

[bit-101]

why do we park in a driveway, and drive on a parkway????



just one more rhetorical question.

[eilsoe]

uuuuhhh...

I'm danish, therefore i refuse answering this question.

(mostly because i have no clue what a parkway is)

[reverendflash]

mmmm... I love danish... with fresh strawberry filling... mmmmmm... :P :P

mmmmm....danish... =) <i>drools on keyboard</i>

Rev:elderly:

[eilsoe]

Okey now im scared.... :P


A danish (in danish (????!!)) is called "Spandauer"...

[reverendflash]

mmmmmm...Spandauer.... :P

:P :P :P :P

Rev:elderly:

[eilsoe]

Oh! An amost danish post! wohoo! :P

Just me, tsavo and GrzKax who is actually danish on this forum...

as far as i know...

[bit-101]

don't make fun of the Danish, there have been many Great Danes throughout history. :P

[vts31]

riddle me this batman. If God can DO and Make anything, Can he make a stone so heavy he wont be able to lift it?

Edwins theory of life:

1.Life started some 4 billions years ago when organic molecules binded themselves in a special way to make DAN(has been demonstrated in a lab that this happens).

2.after lots of changes (4 billon years worth), We got intelligent species, ie. Birds, Apes, Dolphins, etc.

3.One of the branches ape family became smart.

4. Humans rationlized Religion

5. Humans rationalized religion was not the best way to get things done so science came along.(this is a good thing...mostly)

6.Humans got carried away in some areas and are for the most part trying to fix things.

7. TO be continued.


my opinion is meaningless. everyone be happy and eat a cookie (hands everyone a cookie :) )

[eilsoe]

Was that a joke too bit? :P

[eilsoe]

vts: Here's a line from Homer Simpson himself:

Could jesus toast a burrito so hot, that he himself could't eat it?


Almost the same as you wrote :P

[bit-101]

Originally posted by vts31

1.Life started some 4 billions years ago when organic molecules binded themselves in a special way to make DAN(has been demonstrated in a lab that this happens).

i gotta meet this DAN guy.


sorry, i can't be serious today.

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by bit-101
don't make fun of the Danish, there have been many Great Danes throughout history. :P

Like Marmaduke? LOL


Rev:elderly:

[pom]

Originally posted by vts31
1.Life started some 4 billions years ago when organic molecules binded themselves in a special way to make DAN(has been demonstrated in a lab that this happens).
Yeah, are you talking about our own Dan? Cool! And it HAS NOT been demonstrated in a lab. Crozier or whatever his name was succeded a couple of times to "produce life" in a tube because he didn't clean his stuff, and probably let an old piece of cheezy pizza inside it.

[Ryall]

If you can believe that life was really "created" in a random way in a test tube simulation... well then I have some great stuff for you to check out on cold fussion... they did it - they swear, only when no one was looking and could never do it again. hmmmmmmm

Peace

[vts31]

u guys are reading old stuff. im too lazy for BBC scinence links :( and DAN is a wonderful fella :)

[upuaut]

Wow this thread is all over the place. Are you guys trying to throw me off the track? Or perhaps yourselves. ;)

Danish is good, so is Steven Wright. God is good, or bad, or indifferent, and it's irrelivant in the end.

God can change in a religion when it was "meant for him to change". ie when the old story aint working anymore, they make a new one that is more palitable to a modern man. (modern being relative). BUT, if god exists, from the creation to the end, then one can say that he never changed, only was acting in a manner which we did not understand because we are not privy to the big picture. Not likely, but certainly possible in infinity.

Experiments which have only been performed once while no one was looking: I've heard of that, but don't know the first thing about it. Can you elaborate a little. The subject fascinates me.

[Kitiara]

I'm sure I've read somewhere that the leap in evolution from primate to **** sapiens was almost impossible. This would mean therefore that the human race was tampered with somehow by outside parties.

Darwin's theory of evolution states that animals and plants will evole to suit their surroundings and gain an advantage. The main point in dispute is the difference between the brains of humans and primates. The human brain, even early 'proto-humans', is a far more complex thing. According to science, there would have had to be a reason for this increase in brain power, and no such big a factor existed for the need to evolve so much in that way...

I dunno, I can't remember the intricacies of the article, but it did present a logical and well argued case.

[pom]

We've all read all sorts of things, about all sorts of things. I believe that we don't know what happened. This branch of science is very recent, something like 50 years or so, and it needs time to develop.

Anyway, there will always be someone to say something like that, don't you think?

pom :cyclops:

[pom]

And Kit, you say that Darwin's law of evolution "states" something. It doesn't state anything. It's merely suppositions. It's a model. Just like in physics. When Newton said:
OK, guys, I have a little something for you: I've just invented the FORCE (long before George Lucas as you can see), it's a thing that does stuff to you, I'm not sure how, but it makes apple fall on my head when I sleep."Everything happens as if there was a force..." It's a model. Darwin said the same
OK fellas, I've got a little something for you: I've just found out how man was created. Looks like we just evolved from monkeys or something, I'm not sure exactly how it works, but hey, here we are!OK, I don't know what my point is anymore.

[Kitiara]

Fair point. :)

I'm not really sure what my stance is on the whole 'life' thing. I guess I'm not really too bothered about how we all got here, just that we are and we should make the most of it.

[bit-101]

i'm beginning to notice a pattern of pseudo-scientific theories. you take something which seems fairly obvious, and use some kind of logic to prove that it is impossible for it to actually happen that way, then use that as proof of another, much less believable theory.

it's impossible for man to have developed from monkeys, therefore some external intelligence (aliens, god) must have come in and done genetic manipulation.

it's impossible for planes to cause a building to collapse, therefore there must have been a secret government plot.

it's impossible for Santa Claus to go to every house in the world in one night, therefore parents must buy all those toys for their kids. yeah, right!

[pom]

Don't be so rational, Bit. Santa Clause does exist, everybody knows that.

[bit-101]

that's what i'm saying. but a lot of people would rather believe that there is this secret plot by parents who go out and spend hundreds of dollars, secretly buying toys for their kids, and deceiving them into thinking it's santa. how absurd!

[pom]

Indeed. Why would they spend the cash and NOT want the credits? This proves our point, Bit. Well, we have another one just like that in France, I was wondering if you Yankees know it too. When your start losing your teeth when you're a kid, did your parent tell you that they were taken by a mouse which left money in exchange?

Curious :q:

[bit-101]

Originally posted by ilyaslamasse
Indeed. Why would they spend the cash and NOT want the credits? This proves our point, Bit. Well, we have another one just like that in France, I was wondering if you Yankees know it too. When your start losing your teeth when you're a kid, did your parent tell you that they were taken by a mouse which left money in exchange?

Curious :q:

mouse? how disgusting. we have a "tooth fairy" who comes in the middle of the night and takes your teeth and leaves money.

come to think of it, that's pretty scary too.

[pom]

I guess mice in France are not that disgusting we never tried to eat them though, contrary to horses, snails, frogs and humans... oups, shouldn't have said that

But then again, why would a mouse, or even a tooth fairy, which you'll admit is quite ridiculous, I mean since when is there a touth fairy? Why not a nail fairy then? Or a hair fairy?
Anyway, why would a mouse or a tooth fairy need my teeth for? And even stranger, why would it/she pay me when I'm asleep, unaware of what's happening and stupid enough to put it under my pillow?

[bit-101]

LOL. "hair fairy". best idea ever. it would put rogaine out of business.

[pom]

[I'm French]Who's roguaine?[/I'm French]

[bit-101]

rogaine is the hair growing drug. so if you got paid for losing your hair....

[pom]

Never tried it. :-\ But I'm taking very high doses of chicken. Sometimes intraveneously.

[bit-101]

never seen a hairy chicken. that should tell you something.

(they don't have teeth either)

[pom]

This discussion is getting a bit surrealistic...

[eilsoe]

We got from "Visions on life" to "hairy chickens"...


nice... :P

[Kitiara]

Maybe it's gamma rays.

You know, staring at a computer monitor all day is bound to fry your brains. Some fool has probably even written a science paper on it.

Although I dount there's one on hairy / toothy chickens.

[bit-101]

simple laws of entropy. a highly organized discussion about visions of life can devolve into hairy chickens.

but if you started a conversation about hairy chickens, it would never turn into visions of life. the universe doesn't work that way.

[pom]

His fault *points to Bit*

[eilsoe]

Interesting, isn't it? :nerd:

[bit-101]

Originally posted by ilyaslamasse
His fault *points to Bit*

who first brought up hair?
who first brought up chickens?
i can only work with the material you give me.

[eilsoe]

His fault then! *points to pom*

[pom]

Hey, I had to try to blame someone...

And I don't care. Harry Potter is always wrongfully accused, but he's never really guilty. How could he be? How could I be??