Shootings In Md/va

[UNFLUX]

There was yet another one today. 50yds from a state
trooper working an accident in the rain.

I don't know how many of you are close to this, but I live just
north of all this, and my wife drives through and works near the
areas of these shootings.

She works 7p-7a tonight, tomorrow, and sunday...

I'm not very happy right now. :(

/unflux
:goatee:

[seattle]

hey i live in motgomery county

[lostinbeta]

Hey I don't live too far away from all this either. I also have a cabin in Maryland isn't too far from it all.

It is just fukked up what people do. I could go into what I think should be done to the person who is killing as these people, but I don't want to start a controversial argument.

I have family that is closer to it than I am.

[lostinbeta]

That is quite a conspiracy theory. I for one wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Not my area really.

Not sleeping for days won't help me think straight either so I am not going to get into a discussion right now. I will read what people have to say here, but I don't think I am going to participate (unless I feel controlled enough to).

[pom]

That man has to be crazy. I don't think he works for the government... or if he does, he's not doing this on government's request. If it is the case, then America's the sickest country in the world... :(

[lostinbeta]

Well either way, someone has got to be pretty sick to be doing that.

What is it? 8 victims so far?

[Jubba]

Actually Phil, for once I may almost agree with you. When I first heard about all of this, I thought about the possibility that the shooter was government trained. I'm not saying that he is doing the governments will, but he/she may have had the training. However, it doesn't take a lot of training to kill a civilian, even one that is 50 yds from a state trooper. Just a good scope and a steady hand...

Well, the possibility exists, however I see it as unlikely...

Its all progress...

To all of you that have loved ones in the area, I am sorry, and I hope they are all right.

[reverendflash]

Phil-

Am I wrong, or have all of the shootings happened on a weekday?

As far as your "Purchasing gasoline OR using a vehicle that has purchased gasoline" connection, wouldn't any vehicle other than electric fall into this category? Was the 13yr old pumping gas, or standing on an oil slick? I think that particular connection is way too vague.

I do think that the shooter is either gov trained, or a dependant of one (a father could teach this to a 12 yr old). I do agree that the tarot card was a ruse... too coincidental, and then "leaked" when there has been no other leaks?

Rev:elderly:

[Didiusthegreat]

Yeah it's really a mess, Here in Belgium everyone is talking about it!

:*(

[reverendflash]

Phil -

While I see your connection, I still think it is a bit to encompassing.:nerd:

With the consistencies you and I have noted, the only safe people are pedestrians, and those who go out on weekends:P

As I said, a bit too vague:-\

Unfortunately we may never know why... Some people think that David Berkowitz was not the "Son of Sam."

To everyone who has friends and family in the area, my best wishes for you and yours:goatee:

By all means, look for more patterns...:cool:

Rev:elderly:

[UNFLUX]

and way off base...
not too sure I should have started this thread now.

/unflux
:goatee:

[Jubba]

Unfortunately (sometimes), thats the way things work on the forum. Posts often lose their focus as the thread goes. We all understand why you started it, and we all sympathize, but sometimes people like to voice their opinions. :-\

My heart goes out to the victims of this person... :*(

[thoriphes]

it's just terrible. all the shootings have been around my home. schools don't let children play outside anymore, cops circle campuses telling those who are outside to go in, people in general don't want to go outside anymore, i for one am pissed as ****. he is as insane can get. he shot a 13-year old kid. who has the nerve to do this kind of thing? innocent people are now dead for no reason. one of the victims was 53-year old who just so happened to be in the area for a business trip. he was from philly and was a father of 6. i truly grief for his family and those of the victims.

i had a strange feeling that this could be linked to terrorism in a way. with the country's security in peril, i wouldn't see why not. i'm pretty sure it's pretty hard to purchase a sniper rifle these days, so they should start working on finding out who purchased one recently. i hope one day he accidentally jams his rifle up his own a$s.

[NaliWarCow]

I'm pretty sure you can buy any gun on the market at a "gun convention" w/o even having to get a background check.

[reverendflash]

and if I'm not mistaken, there has not been a shooting comitted with a "registered" assault rifle. Most people who would go to this extreme would not bother to register his/her gun.:evil:

It is still legal to own fully automatic weapons in Nevada:x

It would not be hard to buy anything in Reno, and then transport it to where ever you wanted to.:evil:

But this is again off-topic, since this wasn't a thread on gun control:nerd:

Rev:elderly:

[Jubba]

Also, just to add...A sniper rifle isn't necessarily being used. This psyco could just be using a regular hunting rifle, availible in any Wal-Mart...just fix a scope on it and you have a decent gun with decent range as long as you have decent aim....so it would be harder to find the owner of the weapon...

[reverendflash]

my theory is that it is a local person in the md/va area. This is due to the relative locations of the shootings, and due to the fact that they only have occured on weekdays (the shooter may be with his/her family on weekends, and not want to draw attention to him/herself.:-\

this isn't to say he/she isn't working for a foreign gov't, or just a wacko with a bone to pick...

I also wouldn't doubt if this shooter is a member of some survivalist faction trying to make a point of some kind:evil: they would have the most access to modified/unusual for the average american weapons, and how to use them well.

Rev:elderly:

[thoriphes]

alright, this is getting closer to home: the latest shooting was at a home depot that we usually go to. plus my aunt works at that exact home depot. i also have a really good idea of where he shot from since i'm familiar with the area. i hope they catch this bastard soon. i live maybe 3 miles from this place.

[bit-101]

i want to say "be careful" but that sounds kind of senseless, given this guy's technique. maybe, "keep moving" ???

[lostinbeta]

Going to Maryland Thursday. Wish me luck!!!

Ok, so it isn't in that exact area, but you never know.......

[reverendflash]

best wishes... :)

Rev:elderly:

[lostinbeta]

Thanks, if I got shot you will know...because I won't post my usual 27 posts per day.

I will be in the suburbs/farms part, and from what I know he has been in the "cities" mostly.

[vts31]

This guy is prettty crazy. I have a feeling that when they catch him hes gonna be an ordinary guy thatd you'd see at starbucks buyong cofee. i bet he's friendly and charismatic. Sounds like he has a big ego and it sounds like he has money. I'd guess one would need more than a few spending bucks lying around to pull this off. I wouldnt be surprised if he went out and killed someone during his lunch break then came back and acted like normal. This guy will get caught eventually but i think more people are going to die :(.

[Jubba]

Well, I'm not saying that I agree with Phil (ahhh who would want to do that!?!:P ) But the possibility exists that this guy is government trained, and in which case it is unlikely that they will get caught.

If it is just an ordinary guy, then its likely that they will make a mistake somewhere...and hopefully it will be soon.

[lostinbeta]

I don't even know what to think about this guy.

I mean... around me you have so many people that are capable of that, so it would be expected here, but not in Maryland, I always found it to be somewhat peaceful there when I have been there.

Some people are just fukked up, no if ands or buts, even if it was a government person, he/she/it would be fukked up to accept that job.

[upuaut]

I don't think that he has military training, or that it's a military op for that matter. The pieces don't fit in my mind. I agree with Edwin for the most part. Granted.. I'm probebly more limited in knowledge than some of the others here as I've been attempting to stay true to my principals and not feed this fire with attention. Being a heartless hermit that does ok for me, but I understand where others are coming from. The person is playing upon the attention that he creates, at the expense of the society. He's a monster pure and simple.
Killers fall into two catagories Smart and Dumb.
If he's dumb, he'll be caught pretty quick and everyone will be disapointed. Both in the uninterestingness of the world around them, and in themselves for feeling that way at the expense of other people's lives.
If he's smart then he's either government with a mission, or civilian with a mission. Either way, the only gain the person, or the organization gets by this is gotten through attention. The sad thing is that any of us, myself included, bother to think on this at all. It's not even worthy of an interesting story. The crime rate in DC is lower this october than it was last year. Did anyone get together thousands of man hours of FBI and police forces for that month? Regular street crime isn't enough to garner attention and so we drive people with missions to this extreme in order to gain attention.

Maybe I've been reading too muck Maddox, but I think the entire thing is sick, and I bow out.

[lostinbeta]

I can't help paying attention to the situation considering I know people around there and I too sometimes go there.

I don't think it is right for people to be scared to leave their house. All these sick freaks that live to kill need ...... not complete this sentence to avoid argument.

[upuaut]

like I said.. I understand.. just choosing not to offer any speculation on this matter. I don't hold it against anyone for thinking about it... I think about it.

peace lost... may we always seek a life free from pain and fear.

[lostinbeta]

Peace for all.

If only that could be true, but it is still what I believe. Unfortuntately, as long as opinions exist, so will hate, but we need opinions, so we are sh1t on either way.

Anyway....agreed.

[Makaveli]

Originally posted by vts31
This guy is prettty crazy. I have a feeling that when they catch him hes gonna be an ordinary guy thatd you'd see at starbucks buyong cofee. i bet he's friendly and charismatic. Sounds like he has a big ego and it sounds like he has money. I'd guess one would need more than a few spending bucks lying around to pull this off. I wouldnt be surprised if he went out and killed someone during his lunch break then came back and acted like normal. This guy will get caught eventually but i think more people are going to die :(.


Whatever happened to "HomeLand Security"... will they be given even more money and power to spy on ordinary ppl? Is this just another ploy to make us all paranoid and unrationale? How does this fit in with the war in Iraq? this is all so confusing!
if this is just one guy...imagine what all those so called "sleeper cells" could do...maybe they will end up saying it was indeed a sleeper cell.