Hitech animated fx

[Angel_Ice]

Hi all,

I'm not sure this is the rite forum 2 ask this but i've seen http://www.advertisingvisual.com/home.htm

and i'm interested in understand how to do that kind of effects seen also in their Intro ( http://www.advertisingvisual.com/intro.htm )

Anyone want to try 2 brainstorm with me how to do this or anyone wants to share his own techinques to do that?

Personally i think it's made in After effx but, recently, i think it can be done also with flash, using gradients in superb way.
There is some tutorial that explains how to aproach this kinf od effects, also seen in http://www.zenfestival.com/

check how the menus appears and other cool effects...

See also the portfolio in http://www.advertisingvisual.com/ and how to do that cool light effects morfing into logos or simply that cool light-water effx in the middle of the page...

cool!

[simplistik]

It's aftereffects or combustion

[philler]

I reckon it could be done in Flash too but it would probably take longer. It most likely was done as simplistik said.

[qaz88aof]

As soon as i saw that site (http://www.advertisingvisual.com/) (http://www.advertisingvisual.com/) i spent a few hours or so in flash trying to come up with something similar... i got nowhere, although i can think of a few ways to create effects like that, but it would take too much time...

someone must know...

carrot

[Angel_Ice]

If done in afterffect or combustion, all that are videos imported in flash right? so cool, any tutorial around about this kind of special fx? Can't find anythink!

Philler...what u mean with "simplistk"?

[simplistik]

Philler...what u mean with "simplistk"?

LMAO... I'm simplistik... pay attention son! :hugegrin:

As for AE resources please refer to the top page of the forum where is says something like oooohhhh.... I dunno Useful Tutorials and Resources

[Angel_Ice]

LMAO... I'm simplistik... pay attention son! :hugegrin:

As for AE resources please refer to the top page of the forum where is says something like oooohhhh.... I dunno Useful Tutorials and ResourcesOh sorry my friend...really sorry!;)

txnh for the tips

[DDD]

if you already have AE. (pretty expensive proggy) Go to www.trapcode.com I am pretty sure the stroke plugin was used. They have tuts there about this.

[Angel_Ice]

Many thanks four your tip 2

[Angel_Ice]

Another question...there are a lot of effects, it they are done with AE, they must be about 2-3 MB of video effects...but it seems that the web site is quite quick to load...
How they can compress in that way that videos?simply decreasing quality?

[DDD]

between AE compression, Sorenson Squeeze and FLV compression. That files size drops dramatically.

[Angel_Ice]

with FLV compression u mean Flash?
I agree with u but i think it's not easy drop down size and have a good quality animation...right? in your opinion which is the best way to save and export movies from AE?which codec to use?
DDD are u an after effect artist?

Many thanks for your sharing experience!!!:thumb:

[simplistik]

We all are AE artists ;)

Yes it's easy to drop down the size... which is why he told you what was needed. Anyway, FLV is FlashVideo... from AE output your movie to flash format, run Sorenson Squeeze www.sorenson.com and your file sizes reduce dramatically.

[DDD]

Also you have to take into account common sense. Like shorten key frames, maybe delete a few key frames and up the fps to make it un-noiceable, Reuse of elements, and my favorite, knowing when to use AE. Somethings can be with PS, tweens and masks. In your example I can see where he has reused alot of elements. This is smart design. So if you are smart and plan you can avoid a bunch of pitfalls.

[.soulty]

yeah i agree with what DDD / simplistik both had to say..

Post production effects are great, but when using them i try to rememeber that....

"Using a post production application such as AE or Combustion does give your work a certain wow element to it although you need to be careful not to focus on just cool effects and not to forget about design."

-- personally i dont like this website, the effects are great, but the positioning and layout design even some of the graphical elements (eg.. nav) sorta lets it down.

In any case i think most of the effects where created in Combustion (mainly for the particle reasons, gas/water like effect) although you might have a point about 3dstroke(trapcode) in AE, i believe this can be done in combustion with point (bezier) related particle nulls.

anyway not to get too complicated, After effects or Combustion is the key!

[eilsoe]

Trapcode has just released a new particle plugin for AE that can render smoke, gas, flames, etc... and stroke can certainly create those lines flying around...

I'm not sure if AE or Combustion is used, but my guess is AE... :)

[Angel_Ice]

We all are AE artists ;)

Yes it's easy to drop down the size... which is why he told you what was needed. Anyway, FLV is FlashVideo... from AE output your movie to flash format, run Sorenson Squeeze www.sorenson.com (http://www.sorenson.com/) and your file sizes reduce dramatically.
Yes i use yet Sorenson Squeeze, i know it reduce file size drammatically:tie: .
FlashVideo?U mean Flash Video import in Mx2004?or it's a different appz?
have a nice day all!

[Angel_Ice]

Also you have to take into account common sense. Like shorten key frames, maybe delete a few key frames and up the fps to make it un-noiceable, Reuse of elements, and my favorite, knowing when to use AE. Somethings can be with PS, tweens and masks. In your example I can see where he has reused alot of elements. This is smart design. So if you are smart and plan you can avoid a bunch of pitfalls.
I agree with u. I thout it was done in that way.
WHat is the better codec to use when exporting form AE in your opinion?

[Angel_Ice]

Many thanks to all!!
I use Phtoshop about 6 years, I'm trying to learn good AE (i use it about 1 year), also work quite good with Maya (at work). Now i'm afashinated in special FX and motion graphics, i want to learn better about this. Many thanks to ya all again, now i'll read all related topic about this in this great forum, and sometimes, ask somethink again, ok my friends?
Have a nice day, thanks to all again

[philler]

I'm don't like that web site at all. The effects are the only good thing about it imo. The layout is pretty poor, the buttons are so 1996 homestead site builder :D

[.soulty]

Trapcode has just released a new particle plugin for AE that can render smoke, gas, flames, etc... and stroke can certainly create those lines flying around...

I'm not sure if AE or Combustion is used, but my guess is AE... :)
Yeah your right, forgot about that, its called particular or something like that... yeah i remember now and its similar to how it has a preview window of the particle selected... been a while since ive been in the ae scene, with that in mind i would say its created all in AE.

Angel_ice: After effects is a great application (so is Maya being a Maya user myself ;) )

If you need a refresh on the basic ae methods, i have a tutorial here at kirupa (yes, yes, shameless plug :P)

find it here.(you should find this when you search the forums, anyway).
http://www.kirupa.com/web/ae_animation.htm
expect some more tutorials in the future.

have fun!

[Angel_Ice]

If you need a refresh on the basic ae methods, i have a tutorial here at kirupa (yes, yes, shameless plug :P)

find it here.(you should find this when you search the forums, anyway).
http://www.kirupa.com/web/ae_animation.htm
expect some more tutorials in the future.

have fun!
many thanks for your tuorial, i'm going to see it!

[philler]

There's a program called Particle Illusion (pretty good program too: http://www.wondertouch.com/default.asp) in which the effect could have been done fairly easy.

[DDD]

I have used PI as well. Forgot about that. Good program

[Yuki]

I have used PI as well. Forgot about that. Good program
It's to bad you can't export the sequences to a .swf format

[kfur]

I've been exporting after effects animations as swf's for a while.
All you do is is export the frame as a photoshop layer file then open in image ready and export as swf.
You can save a whole comp as a photoshop file.
But for flash you really have to be smart about it to keep the file sizes down.
I'd recommend creating a static image in two sizes then use a series of masks to animate them. I decompiled that advertisingeffects site and they seem to be doing that.
They are definetly using trapcode stroke and starglow for those whip effects.
I'd stay away from that look though because it's getting played out quick.
I feel bad for trapcode they made such great plug-ins that everyone and their mom used them. Now I'm sick of seeing it.
I think the fx on that site are cool but I like motiongerms approach way better. It seems to me to be alot more classy and alot less blingy ( that's a word it's in the dictionary now.).

Good luck figuring out your own effects using ae and flash.