Post whoring

[Disco-Stu]

Is it just me, or are there a LOT of people who somehow shoot up their post counts in like, a month? I consider myself pretty involved in a lot of conversations on kirupa, but I've seen people that join after me, and somehow have 1000 posts about a month after they join. Are there even that many topics? I know there are some hardcore spam threads(*cough*kteamnonaffiliatedcult*cough*), but even those have some funny and constructive stuff in them. Strange times.

[kirupa]

If you want, you can PM me or another mod the names of those who you think may be unnecessarily spamming, and we'll check out their posts and PM them if they are getting too much of an adrenaline rush from clicking the New Thread or Post Reply buttons :)

[DarkChild]

yeah, i know, 'cause i was one of them :P but that was in the days i was at my internship going through a living hell of boredom :)

but i must say since i finished that, my posts per day average has dropped about 8 posts, so you can say i'm sort of losing my addiction to K-man :P

[mlk]

Is it just me, or are there a LOT of people who somehow shoot up their post counts in like, a month? I consider myself pretty involved in a lot of conversations on kirupa, but I've seen people that join after me, and somehow have 1000 posts about a month after they join. Are there even that many topics? I know there are some hardcore spam threads(*cough*kteamnonaffiliatedcult*cough*), but even those have some funny and constructive stuff in them. Strange times.

Hell ya. And sadlly enough some of the other big members have stopped posting or don't frequent the forums as much; lost, vts, kit, mike, lava, ju88a, thor, alex, even unflux (i know he's got work), asphaly & so on...

Dang :sigh:

Kirupaforums ain't what they used to be. But I can't tell if it changed for the worst or the better. Quality has also improved, hasn't it..

(oh and for the posts skyrocketing: a) the word association thread b) movie quote thread and lately c) the red :rabbit: to white magic thread...)

[grinch]

Well that's kind of odd. Just becuase someone loves these forums alot that they post a lot is bad? Not saying I am, I don't have that many.

[Digitalosophy]

I really like the old feature we had, you know the perecentage jammy to see where members post the most.

[kirupa]

I really like the old feature we had, you know the perecentage jammy to see where members post the most.Let me try to install that and see if it works again! :)

[mlk]

Yay. Then besides the arcade icon trophies we'll have the spammer's trophy :trout:

[grinch]

Oh that'd be awsome!

[DariusMonsef]

I think I posted about 1k posts in the last month. Whether that be for the good of the forum or for the total destruction is still up in the air.

I'm all for randomness in the random forums, so long as it uses a bit of creativity.

[kirupa]

I'm all for randomness in the random forums, so long as it uses a bit of creativity.I agree. I think most of the spammers are usually caught and publically trouted anyway :P

[Disco-Stu]

I wasn't really complaining... it was more of an observation. ;) But I do think post count determines a "rank" of sorts. Mods are obviously mods because of their bold names, but just because someone posts madly in the word association game (I'm guilty too. It's fun! ;) ) doesn't mean they should be asked questions, or looked up to because of the status that comes with the "1k+" rank. Maybe an improvement of the voting system or something to determine status? I dunno. I like the current system, but I'm just putting up some "helpful advice".

[wizard]

Quit complaining!! :lol:

I like to think that post count does not matter, though I know that that's not true.

I would like to see a different "ranking" system... a change of some sort.

[DariusMonsef]

Yeah I get IM's all the time with people asking all sorts of random questions from PHP to CSS to AS... Look... You obviously haven't read any of my 3,400 posts if you're IM'n me for advice. If you have a question about how to create a 1k post thread about nothing hit me up, otherwise I'm about as useful as a fork with no prongy things.

[Jasninder]

If you want, you can PM me or another mod the names of those who you think may be unnecessarily spamming, and we'll check out their posts and PM them if they are getting too much of an adrenaline rush from clicking the New Thread or Post Reply buttons :)
ah Kman, thats so boring, PM???
why not let the names out here, lets see some good old fashioned flame fights we used to have, oooh i miss em somuch :( its been a while too, everything is good for a change too, right? :bad:

lol, ok shuts up now *back to the simpson style*

[fester8542]

Yeah I get IM's all the time with people asking all sorts of random questions from PHP to CSS to AS... Look... You obviously haven't read any of my 3,400 posts if you're IM'n me for advice. If you have a question about how to create a 1k post thread about nothing hit me up, otherwise I'm about as useful as a fork with no prongy things.


Same Here

A couple years ago when I first came here It was certainly all for learning purposes. Then I joined the fourms for the same reason. I usually need help more than I can help.

But.

The conversations, Debates, jokes, battles and funny stuff is what I am really addicted to. Now if I am considered a spammer for hanging out in random and participating in whats going on here....well....whatever.

If the powers that be have a problem with that they can ban my account and IP. But then of course I will have to mutilate them, thier familes and anyone thay have ever cared about :evil:

[Jasninder]

Same Here

A couple years ago when I first came here It was certainly all for learning purposes. Then I joined the fourms for the same reason. I usually need help more than I can help.

But.

The conversations, Debates, jokes, battles and funny stuff is what I am really addicted to. Now if I am considered a spammer for hanging out in random and participating in whats going on here....well....whatever.

If the powers that be have a problem with that they can ban my account and IP. But then of course I will have to mutilate them, thier familes and anyone thay have ever cared about :evil:

Well said bro, i m wid ya 100% on this one, theres another solution, pause the post count on random for everyone, is it possible? if yes, i dont mind...guess no one will....i hope :geek:

[eilsoe]

I believe we did that once.. and it actually worked... if my memory serves me right... which is usually doesn't...

[hificopymaster]

otherwise I'm about as useful as a fork with no prongy things. Isn't that a spoon? :h:

[billystar]

Isn't that a spoon? :h:
SPAMMM!!!

:lol: :run:

[Jasninder]

I believe we did that once.. and it actually worked... if my memory serves me right... which is usually doesn't...
what? started on the cig'z again?:P hope not (J/K)

Hey lets do it, but i wonder if people really post on random just coz they wnat to increase their post count...it worked means people actually stopped spamming?

[mlk]

yeah, and loads of people started posting useless stuff in the D&D section.

[Alex]

i still lurk the forums a little, not as much as i used to though.

But, I think that post count should be deactivated for when you post in random, i have noticed a lot of post that just have like "haha" but nothing to add to the overall conversation, which in return, it just clog's up everything. Also, a lot of threads go off topic before they start. lol...

Either that or just to return the fun learning enviorment and not just a race for the highest post count, just disable post count all together. But its not my decision. :)

but that's just my 2 cents...

[DDD]

spamming pays off.....Look at Dippy we started **** near the same day, and he has like double my posts now he is a mod :lol: J/K Dippy has helped a bunch of folks as well as his skills have grown. I think long as you throw in some worth while advice and help then hanging out in random aint all that bad..

ahahahaha.....the title "POST WHORING" is hella funny to me.

[idoik]

I dont got many posts:P

[Digitalosophy]

i vote kill post count in random :)

[DariusMonsef]

Fine by me... I have several hundred posts in the test forum ;)

[Digitalosophy]

:lol:

[kirupa]

There is nothing wrong with posting a lot on any of the non-help forums. The post counts are really just a number. If you see somebody blatantly spamming with a whole page of HAHA or w00t posts, then a mod or I will deal with it.

Also, post counts don't help in becoming a mod. What you actually do with those post counts do.

So, if you all feel like relaxing or posting in Random and the other talk forums, feel free to :P

[Digitalosophy]

There is nothing wrong with posting a lot on any of the non-help forums. The post counts are really just a number. If you see somebody blatantly spamming with a whole page of HAHA or w00t posts, then a mod or I will deal with it.

Also, post counts don't help in becoming a mod. What you actually do with those post counts do.

So, if you all feel like relaxing or posting in Random and the other talk forums, feel free to :P

very true kman ;P

[DariusMonsef]

Also, post counts don't help in becoming a mod. What you actually do with those post counts do.


Funny that you mention this Kirupa as I just donated a portion of my post count to the less fortunate "Kids Helping Kids with Post Counts" association. I also printed out a few hundred of my random posts and used the paper to create paper mache animals with the old folks at the home. I also spend my free time using my posts to educated the world about hunger and the environment.

[kirupa]

Funny that you mention this Kirupa as I just donated a portion of my post count to the less fortunate "Kids Helping Kids with Post Counts" association. I also printed out a few hundred of my random posts and used the paper to create paper mache animals with the old folks at the home. I also spend my free time using my posts to educated the world about hunger and the environment.See ethan - the world needs more people like you setting a good example about what to do with your posts :P

[tobydog]

Sounds like Disco Stu has post envy...

TD

[MxNecromancer]

Sounds like Disco Stu has post envy...

TD

i don't understand what's this big deal with post counts. I've been a member for 3 years and all i have is 800 somthing posts. the main reason for people haveing so many posts is probibly their ither Double Posting(like i have seen 1000 times before) or just running on the word association thread


now if you want spam.... the Halo K-Team is 98% Fat Free Prime Grade SPAM!

[wizard]

I remember seeing this forum, and I'm sure many have it, that had a ranking system using credits/points. I think the way it worked was: people who you helped would give you a certain amount of points.

In other words:
> Someone posts a question.
> I answer their question.
> In the process of thanking me they also give me a fixed number of points (5 for example) for me to display proudly under my username. Of course, the points accumulate.

So instead of people being ranked by the number of posts they have, they are ranked by the number of points which only other people can give.

I think something like this would be a good idea, unless its been tried :ne: .

[Disco-Stu]

Sounds like Disco Stu has post envy...

TD

LOL. Sorry, no Freudian stuff today for me, thanks. ;)

I'm not complaining, I just stated that it seems like there is some hardcore useless posting going on. People don't need to post "Hah!" posts.

I agree though wizard. Some sort of "helpfulness" or "productive" rating would be pretty cool.

[lunatic]

I think that would be just as meaningless as post count. Some will give you feedback, some won't. Sometimes your friends on the forum will pump up your rating just to be nice or whatever.

Something I saw that was useful on the Macromedia Cold Fusion forum (and is probably on their other forums?) - there was a checkbox to mark the particular post within a thread as the answer to a question. That particular post would then go to the top of the thread. Of course, this wouldn't work in something like the resizing slide show thread but might be useful in other places when someone finally gets something figured out. This feature would be nice for certain forum topics, like MX, ActionScript, MX2004 etc. but wouldn't be necessary in the Talk forums etc.

Just a thought.

:hr:

[Disco-Stu]

Lunatic, that sounds really cool. You wouldn't need it for every post, but you could turn it on, poll style.

[DariusMonsef]

I think most people who spend a bit of time on the forum know which people are good to go to for help and those who just have high post counts. I don't think that any large actions need to be taken.

[Jeff Wheeler]

I post about once every four days now...

eigth grade is stinky :*(

[Disco-Stu]

EthanM, I agree in a way, but I've noticed problems going by on the forums unanswered lately. This sort of system, with an "answered question" system, might encourage the people who post a million times to get their post counts up, to maybe be productive and "help out" a million times instead. I dunno. If you reward such activity, maybe we can get some of the weirder questions sorted out.


eighth grade?!?!?! Enjoy your next 5 years my friend. College is 10x worse on your time. I mainly waste my employers money surfing kirupa. :D Not my own time. Then again, I own it up when it comes to solving IT issues, optimizing/redesigning the website and maintaining the 40+ computer network, so they don't fire me. Non-contract IT jobs freaking rule.

[DariusMonsef]

Are there weird questions not sorted?

[Krilnon]

I've heard of what wizard was talking about. I think its the Karma system I had once on a board that I happened to administrate.

[ratbaggy]

so...is this thread actually constructive or is it just a way for people to boost their post counts by not adding much?

:P

[Disco-Stu]

;) Now we have to execute you ratbaggy. The Kirupa Konspiracy will live on... :ninja:

[mdipi]

I only really read the first page but kirupa, what if we shut the post counts in the Talk forums off for a little while like we did before?

[ratbaggy]

Now we have to execute you ratbaggy. The Kirupa Konspiracy will live on...


Oh I think I understand now!!! 5 more to go (at this point in time) till I reach 500. No whoring here.

BTW -
Everyone is making very valid points. ;) :P

[wizard]

I think that would be just as meaningless as post count. Some will give you feedback, some won't. Sometimes your friends on the forum will pump up your rating just to be nice or whatever.Yeah you're right. Like everything else, it does have its drawbacks. But what if it only existed in the "help" forums and only the person asking the question (thread starter) could give points?

True, there will be people taking advantage of this... but they can only do it for so long because eventually they would get tired of having to start a new thread and give their buddy 5 more points.

I don't know, but I really would like to see a change... even though half if not most of my posts are spam and I'm probably one of the people Disco's referring to. :P

[MxNecromancer]

Oh I think I understand now!!! 5 more to go (at this point in time) till I reach 500. No whoring here.

BTW -
Everyone is making very valid points. ;) :P


That's a wasted Post..... see now thats another thing that covers the entire forum. Having people tell us how many posts they have. I actually remember in this forum that there was like 10 threads with people acting all happy cause they had 1000 posts or somthing.


I wonder what whouold happen if kirupa added a 1000 post limit lol

[kirupa]

I wonder what whouold happen if kirupa added a 1000 post limit lolThere would be a lot more members! :P


I only really read the first page but kirupa, what if we shut the post counts in the Talk forums off for a little while like we did before?I don't know - that seems too much of a radical step. I think it would be easier to use one of those human harvesting machines from the Matrix and pluck out the constant spammers instead.

The earlier post count shut down was targeted at silencing a few spammerific members, but most of them have stopped posting or fell victim to the human harvesting machines anyway!

[eilsoe]

with Dan behind the wheel :P

[DariusMonsef]

What is the real concern?

[eilsoe]

that some members may have false hopes of glory when achieving higher post counts....


or something, I didn't read the entire thread... :whistle:

[Krilnon]

That's a wasted Post..... see now thats another thing that covers the entire forum. Having people tell us how many posts they have. I actually remember in this forum that there was like 10 threads with people acting all happy cause they had 1000 posts or somthing.


I wonder what whouold happen if kirupa added a 1000 post limit lol
Usually those posts aren't started by the person with x(1000) posts.

[DariusMonsef]

I think the concern is that there are people who have lower post counts, but spend more time writing answers in the questions and info threads who feel like they are somehow viewed as lower on the popularity or social status poll here at Kirupa.

I mean mdipi has like 9k posts and nobody even likes him!

[Krilnon]

I(personally) don't dislike people with less posts, and if I ask a question, or read a topic where that person has answered the other person's question, I like that person!

[mdipi]

Those 9k posts are from earlier affairs...

A post shut down would just make it so that a few members *cough*Halothread*cough* didnt feel the need to constantly span so their post count went up and have hopes of becomming a mod.

[Krilnon]

Once you get 1000 posts in the Halo thread you automatically become a mod, didn't you know that?

[kirupa]

Members aren't using their time wisely if they hope that by posting a lot they will become mods. I think it is written in some ancient book that it is easier for a camel to enter an eye of a needle than it is for a spammer to become a mod :)

[DariusMonsef]

I don't think it's a mod thing. I really think it's a popularity thing.

I think people by nature look to people with the most post counts as to be the seasoned cooler members and so people want to have their posts counts higher too.

What's funny though is that some of the really great developers don't have that high of posts counts and because of it aren't as "popular" as some other people.

[Disco-Stu]

Post Count = ***** Contest

:D

Too bad no one can match up to this vienna beef! Thats right baby, we're talkin Jumbo Dog tonight! Yaaaawwwww!

</angry roided up wrestler>

[mlk]

Post Count = ***** Contest

What ? Quality not quantity ? Or 'width not height' ? Or 'it's not the size that matters, it's the feeling you put into it' ! :q:

I guess that members with badly earned post counts are known by the rest of the community, which is punishment enough...

[fester8542]

This whole topic is insane. :crazy:

Seriously if you look at the number in ones post count to determine poularity then you have got some serious issues.

I have gotten solid help before by a member who literally had 4 posts.

Well MLK as you know I have about 700 more posts than you....so well...I am just better.

C'mon.

[NeoDreamer]

I remember that the official Java forum had an unique way to solve this problem. On its forum, it had something called Duke Dollars. You start off with, say 100 Duke Dollars. If you have a question, you would bid off 10, 20, 30 or whatever amount of D.D. for it to be answered. After you get a bunch of D.D., you can go to the Java website and redeem some prizes - just like an arcade.

I was thinking that we don't really need the prizes on Kirupa Forum, but could use the D.D. system to show who has helped out how many times. This number could be put under the avator.

[λ]

[QUOTE=Disco-Stu]Post Count = ***** Contest
QUOTE]
What ? Quality not quantity ? Or 'width not height' ? Or 'it's not the size that matters, it's the feeling you put into it' ! :q:

I guess that members with badly earned post counts are known by the rest of the community, which is punishment enough...
LOL :D

Post counts mean little. They simply mean A) you've been here longer or B) you're a spammer ;)

[MxNecromancer]

Kirupa if you want people to actually Talk about interesting things then just post a temporary 3 month rule.... all sensless threads (word association Thead, the Or' Game, etc.) should be halted and all other game threads during that period will be locked

i whould believe doing that will keep people from getting such uslessly high post counts

EDIT: but that whould mean my own death being Kirupas Random Regular :hr:

[lunatic]

LOL :D

Post counts mean little. They simply mean A) you've been here longer or B) you're a spammer ;)

or C) you ask a lot of questions because even though you've been working with Flash for more than a year you still don't totally get all that actionscript stuff. But uh, *cough* that wouldn't be me or anything . . . :beam:



Post Count = ***** Contest

Yeah, that's definitely why I post so much. :sure: And why I watch all of your post counts intensely . . . :bad:



p.s. Kirupa don't change a thing.

[kirupa]

p.s. Kirupa don't change a thing.Yeah - I don't think anything should be changed. I figure it is a lot easier to individually correct a small number of spammers than it is to punish everyone equally for the mistakes of a few :hat:

[hificopymaster]

:D Yay. I'm sort of glad the whole "%-in-random" thing didn't come back. :P I spend all my time in Random (er... and the Test Forum), because I suck at Flash, but I just like the people here. None of the other forums I've been to had this sort of community feel to them, so I'm staying. And there's nothing you can do about it. :bad:

[MxNecromancer]

:D Yay. I'm sort of glad the whole "%-in-random" thing didn't come back. :P I spend all my time in Random (er... and the Test Forum), because I suck at Flash, but I just like the people here. None of the other forums I've been to had this sort of community feel to them, so I'm staying. And there's nothing you can do about it. :bad:

Yeah i'm kinda the same, i live off the nutrients of what is the random forum

[Jasninder]

huh?, this thread is still alive?

everyone who posts after me is

SPAMMING :P

[MxNecromancer]

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/mxnecro-unphilspam.jpg
Sorry i coudln't help it :ch:

[Jasninder]

lol:P <<< post count + 1