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kirupa
09-16-2002, 06:02 PM
This is only temporary, and let's come up with a descriptive name :)

pom
09-16-2002, 06:18 PM
Allow me to be the first to enter something :) It's script only, and works exclusively with Flash MX (sorry F5 users :()

I hope you'll like it. You can see it here (http://membres.lycos.fr/museebranly/flash/Kircontest/raie02.html).

pom :asian:

Edit: I took the source out.

kirupa
09-16-2002, 06:45 PM
Wow that is nice :) Don't you think you should post the code as a separate post topic? Btw, I haven't yet had a chance to modify all the links and add all of the information on the site to get visitors to be informed by it. Gimme just one more day lol!

Cheers!
Kirupa :bandit:

fadingblack
09-16-2002, 07:30 PM
ilyaslamasse, you are becoming one of my idols!!! :)

JUST AMAZING!

lostinbeta
09-16-2002, 07:52 PM
Ilyas is already one of my idols:)

pom
09-17-2002, 12:59 AM
Oh come on guys :blush:

Now show me what you got!

pom :P

lostinbeta
09-17-2002, 01:06 AM
Well seeing as I am already intimidated and still haven't learned enough of the math side to do that I am afraid to enter. But hey, I did say I was in this to have fun, so here goes nothing...

<U>ENTRY 1</U>
<B>EXAMPLE: </B>Entry 1 Example (http://8ballcreations.com/lostinbeta/kirupa/entry1.html)

<U>ENTRY 2</U>
<B>EXAMPLE: </B>Entry 2 Example (http://8ballcreations.com/lostinbeta/kirupa/entry2.html)

Very corney, but it was fun doing:) They also aren't fully optimized because I just did them last night, but I really don't have too much free time so I didn't have time to optimize them.

pom
09-17-2002, 01:09 AM
Hey, that's good! I like it :)

lostinbeta
09-17-2002, 01:10 AM
Thanks:)

They both almost the same script, just slight editing can produce such different results:)

upuaut
09-17-2002, 01:44 AM
That is probebly as good or better than anything I can do lostinbeta... looks good to me.

Nice one from you too Pom. Very cool.

lostinbeta
09-17-2002, 01:46 AM
I haven't even yet begun to learn the full power of the trig functions. I am so screwed...haha. Oh well, I will get over it. I can't wait to see more entries from people:)

You going to submit anything david?

upuaut
09-17-2002, 01:59 AM
probebly.. though I doubt it will be anything as cool as those two.

upuaut
09-17-2002, 02:02 AM
am I to understand that the first contest is based upon a grid and that all entries have to reflect that?

lostinbeta
09-17-2002, 02:06 AM
Yes, tis true. If you go to the page with the contest rules, Ilyas supplies a short tutorial on making grids with AS (I know I didn't know how). The link can be found on the ever popular "New Comp" thread...haha.

Kitiara
09-17-2002, 05:06 AM
Eek. I've never even gone near the trig stuff in AS. Boy, do I feel screwed now. :)

andr.in
09-17-2002, 08:59 AM
nice ilyas and lostinbeta =)
that ..."thing" that ilyas posted looks 3d
cool

fadingblack
09-17-2002, 11:32 AM
Well, lostinbeta, you are also in my idols list... Ihave tha same impression as Kitiara. I will never get even close to that!

lostinbeta
09-17-2002, 12:24 PM
Thank you everyone.

fadingblack: Now I am blushing too:)

upuaut
09-17-2002, 01:16 PM
ok guys.. maybe I'm a *******.. but I can't get the link to that grid to unzip correctly.. it really should be attached to this thread anyway.. could someone check the link, see if the download is the correct thing, and then possibly post that link here?

tanks

lostinbeta
09-17-2002, 01:32 PM
Hey david, the tutorial is on this page....

Kirupa Contest (http://www.kirupa.com/contest/index.htm)

Click on "Creating A Grid".

pom
09-17-2002, 03:31 PM
Hey, I didn't do that thing to intimidate you guys :(
I hope you'll all come up with something cool...

pom :asian:

pom
09-17-2002, 03:53 PM
Experiment of the day: some water ripples, fully scripted (you have to click to see anything) here (http://membres.lycos.fr/museebranly/flash/Kircontest/vagues.html ).

pom :asian:

eilsoe
09-17-2002, 04:40 PM
Oh ilya that's just unfair! :P

Gawd.. the most advanced thing I've ever done is simple physics... I feel soooo left behind here...

Oh well, All in due time... practice makes perfect... yaddayaddah...

lostinbeta
09-17-2002, 05:00 PM
Wow Ilyas, that water ripple thing is nuts! I need to start reading up on physics and trig so I can come with something that can at least challenge that a little bit.

kirupa
09-17-2002, 05:27 PM
Wow, these are some really nice effects. Would it be alright if the contest is open to the public on Friday? I need some time to get people to know about this via the site, and I also need some to get the word out to other Flash sites :)

Cheers!
Kirupa :bandit:

lostinbeta
09-17-2002, 06:47 PM
Oh, sorry, I thought it started already. My mistake. Do the already submitted entries still count? I will wait until Friday to post my next one (still not as good as Ilyas', but I like it).

kirupa
09-17-2002, 08:00 PM
of course, all the submitted entries still do count :) It's just that others besides the usual forum posters don't know about it just yet hehe.

I'll also find a way to upload the SWF files.....as long as they are under 10k in size :) It'll make it easier than having to go through pages that have banners, etc.

Cheers!
Kirupa

lostinbeta
09-17-2002, 08:03 PM
Oh, well in that case...

<U>ENTRY 3</U>
<B>EXAMPLE: </B>Entry 3 Example (http://8ballcreations.com/lostinbeta/kirupa/entry3.html)

This is my third entry. I am not sure if it 100% qualifies, but I think it does because it is just dynamically made grids that overlay eachother. Ah, you will see.

upuaut
09-18-2002, 01:35 AM
Thanks for putting all that info together on the grid. I now understand what it is you're all working off of. I'll start work on an idea or two in the morning.

All of the entries are excellent so far.

Remember people that the winning or the losing is a curve based upon skill level. Pom's entries are great.. but they mean less because of the skills he has. Don't be afraid to make an entry just because you don't think that you're capable of making something comparable.

lostinbeta
09-18-2002, 01:39 AM
That is a good point david! It is still fun to drool at the nice looking ones though... I am working on another entry now, but it doesn't feel like cooperating. Ah, oh well, I am sure I will get it to work somehow.

Kirupa: Are we REQUIRED to use the code originally provided by ilyas? Because if not I have to take away my last entry and stop workin on my current project.

Kitiara
09-18-2002, 05:12 AM
Alright, consider me seriously scared now. :)

I haven't so much as thought of trig since I was 15, and that's a looong time ago now.

Mathematics is a mystery to me.

I have nervous breakdowns at the mention of 'cosine'.

Would anyone notice if I changed the name on one of Poms .swfs and said that I wrote it? :)

Bezzer
09-18-2002, 05:20 AM
eh, i'll just post this...i dont know if it has anything to do with a grid or something....poms already seen it though :)

_root.createEmptyMovieClip("bob", 5).lineStyle(Math.random*30, Math.random()*0xffffff, Math.random()*50+50);
while (i<4) {
_root.bob.duplicateMovieClip("bob"+i, i);
i++;
}
while(angle<150){
//onMouseMove = function () {
_root.bob.lineStyle(Math.random()*5, 0x0099cc, Math.random()*50);
moveX = Math.sin(angle/Math.PI*180)*(300+angle)+(300);
moveY = Math.cos(angle/Math.PI*180)*(50)+(100);
_root.bob.moveTo(moveX, moveY+angle);
_root.bob.curveTo(275, 150, 275, 400);
// while(it <4){
bob2.lineStyle(Math.random()*5, 0x0000cc, Math.random()*75-30);
bob2.moveTo(moveX, moveY+angle-50);
bob2.curveTo(275,3, 275, 400);
bob1.lineStyle(Math.random()*5, 0x0099ff, Math.random()*75);
bob1.moveTo(moveX, moveY+angle+100);
bob1.curveTo(275, 0, 275, 400);
bob3.lineStyle(Math.random()*5, 0x0066ff, 40);
bob3.moveTo(moveX, moveY+angle+200);
bob3.curveTo(275, 2, 275, 400);
// it++;
// }
angle++;
//if (angle == 150) {
//onEnterFrame = null;
//}
};


It may take a bit to calculate...but it looks pretty :):o

upuaut
09-18-2002, 07:09 AM
see.. I don't know.. I'm not really happy with having the origional FLA's or code posted in the contest thread. I think the workings of how someone does something should be kept secret until someone wins. Just my opinion.

That does look like very tastie code Bezzer

eilsoe
09-18-2002, 08:14 AM
Oki ta hell with it.. I'm trying...

This is my entry. Tried out the grid tut, and then went nuts. Not having a CLUE how to manipulate the grid, I think this is fairly good for a newbie like myself!

Mind u all I sat up till 04:00 AM trying to get this to work, ok...?

My entry (http://www.avalon-rev.dk/contest/mygrid.html)

Dunno if it qualifies... but I used the grid thingy as the fading "shroud"...

See the pic in the back!? =)

lostinbeta
09-18-2002, 12:56 PM
Bezzer: That is very nice (and CPU intensive), but it doesn't have anything to do with grids.

Elisoe: OOOOO, I likes!

david: Why not see the code that created a masterpiece? It also helps to see the code because if there are 2 entries that are similar we can compare code to see if any code was copied.

<U>ENTRY 4</U>
<B>EXAMPLE: </B>Entry 4 Example (http://8ballcreations.com/lostinbeta/kirupa/entry4.html)

I am submitting this even though I still don't know if we are REQUIRED to use the code originally provided by Ilyas. If we are, then I can always remove it.

fadingblack
09-18-2002, 03:16 PM
Kitiara, we could have a nervous breakdown together with all those maths going on!!!,=)

Anyway, i think i will follow David's advice and don't give up. If you consider that i have began learning actionscript only a month ago, if i copy and paste the grid code and swear i understood how it works, will be enough??? ha, ha, ha... just joking!!

I know i can't be in this competition for the moment.

lostinbeta
09-18-2002, 03:19 PM
Don't put yourself down. I don't know jack fiddle about the math side of Flash (yet:evil: ). I just wing it and see what comes up. All I can say is to at least give it a try, if you come up with something cool, submit it, if not, at least you tried.

fadingblack
09-18-2002, 03:22 PM
well, ok, i'll try it.

=)


I really love the atmosphere here, people... you are really great!!!

lostinbeta
09-18-2002, 03:34 PM
Well as david said, your skill level is factored into the voting. Since you are new at AS, if you come up with something cool, it will add to your chance of a vote:)

Just be confident in your abilities and you can defeat any obstacles:)

eilsoe
09-18-2002, 03:55 PM
Exactly Lost... Look at my entry... I'm a straight noob, started flash a couple of months ago, and still I managed to get this working...

Although I'm pretty sure I'll make more entries...


Experiment FadingBlack!! Practice makes perfect... (sorta :-\)

And I'm practicing my *** off... :P

pom
09-18-2002, 05:26 PM
Hey, nice entries so far! And lost, you stole that last idea right out of my brain :)
I have a question though: how are we supposed to judge the skills of people from other boards? :-\

Anyway, something nice for you, inspired by a file from Keith Peters (http://www.bit-101.com/lab.html) :
A grid (http://membres.lycos.fr/museebranly/flash/Kircontest/grid_e08b.html). Hope you like it.

pom :asian:

lostinbeta
09-18-2002, 05:33 PM
And you stole that idea right out of mine!!!!

I guess I can stop working on that one...haha. I probably wouldn't have gotten it to work in the end anyways. I had enough problems with my Entry 4, it was supposed to be better, but it wasn't cooperating so I had to do things the hard way. This is my favorite entry from you so far Ilyas.

I have no clue how we are supposed to judge skill levels of people on other boards. I am not so sure we should have people from other boards enter, this will be a pain to judge and they can easily lie about their skill level. While if they have posted on this board, we can go by their posts to get an idea of what level they are at.

Bezzer
09-18-2002, 07:13 PM
Hrmmm i try to see your first thing pom and it doesn't load.....could u give me a link to the grid thing so i can make something? cause yeah.... are we allowed to use tweens and stuff like that in this thingy? Hrmmm ok...ur things are cool lostinbeta

I haven't really been able to read over the whole post....because IE has been stuffing up (when doesn't it stuff up?) so yeah now im using opera :)

Well I hope i can make something out of the grid..... :) cya :o :asian: :bandit: :rambo: :ninja: :evil: :x

pom
09-18-2002, 07:27 PM
:-\ We'll have to "clean" that thread or create a new one...

Bezzer, your answer is in this thread, and also in the random section I think.

pom :asian:

Bezzer
09-18-2002, 07:46 PM
the thing is...i cant get the thing off ur site...i get an error when i try to load...

fadingblack
09-18-2002, 08:34 PM
Same **** going on here, bezzer...
ilyas, are you sure there is something behind that link?? he, he

lostinbeta
09-18-2002, 09:47 PM
If you are talking about the Ilyas' first entry (2nd post of this thread), that link works totally fine for me. I just tested it.

pom
09-19-2002, 03:32 AM
Works perfectly when I try the links... The host sucks spectacularly, so maybe that's why you don't see anything sometimes. And are you sure you clicked on the second file?

pom :)

And Bezzer, I think Kirupa will post all that some time soon.

pom
09-19-2002, 03:34 AM
It's there (http://www.kirupa.com/contest/index.htm)

pom
09-19-2002, 03:27 PM
Someone asked about the Patterson menu on another board, and I came up with this: Drag the outside dot (http://membres.lycos.fr/museebranly/flash/Kircontest/pattersonMenu02.html). You can get some nice patterns if you move slowly...

pom :asian:

fadingblack
09-19-2002, 04:34 PM
I love this new enty ilyas, just amazing!

Now I fell my grid is even more crappy than i thought, but anyway i'll post it.

Here is my stupid grid.

EDIT:is on the new thread i posted on indˇviduals one

pom
09-19-2002, 04:48 PM
What are you talking about? It's a great start! You can tweak it a bit, and I'm sure you can do something great with that. For instance, you could try to organize the colors, depending on something (distance to the mouse, distance to the beginning of the line, the row...). Just a thought.

pom :asian:

fadingblack
09-19-2002, 04:55 PM
Is very nice to hear that from you :P =)

I'll try to do as you say.

Oh, and now i remember (this doesn't belong here, but i'm at work and have little time to change threads, will u forgive me?? :) ) Ilyas, do remember the growng-shrinking thing?? well, i could not make it work on a movieclip. I'm still trying. More news soon. =)

Edit: And yes, Harry Potter DO rock!! he, he...
back to work.

pom
09-19-2002, 05:07 PM
sTILL having problems with that? :P

Jubba
09-19-2002, 07:51 PM
hmmm... I kind of made something. Its pretty useless, but it does start out as a grid...doesn't stay a grid for a very long time...

<a href="http://www.livetoskateboard.com/curious/flowerGrid.html" target=_blank>CLICK HERE</a>


this is just me playing around with different stuff. Used getDepth() in there, and originally it had a Color changing thing....all just me playing around. I'm a little rusty cuz I haven't touched Flash as far as scripting goes in almost 4 months....

flex
09-19-2002, 10:01 PM
I think you might as well give the prize to me now. I think this deserves it:

http://flex.funkyolive.com/test/kirupacomp2.html

flex
09-19-2002, 10:02 PM
Fla available on request http://flex.funkyolive.com/im/rofl.gif

Ryall
09-19-2002, 10:22 PM
SIMPLY AMAZING!!!! HOW DID YOU DO IT??????? My only hope is that one day you will take me under your wing and show me the way.... =) :P

Peace

Jubba
09-19-2002, 10:32 PM
that was the best

lostinbeta
09-19-2002, 11:42 PM
Wow, compared to that entry I might as well just drop out now.




By the way: I was talking about Ilyas' entry.
haha.........:P

pom
09-20-2002, 12:16 AM
It is not that complicated, really. Easing, that's all there is to it. You know how easing works, don't you? :) This dot eases to this point, that eases to this one, etc.

pom :asian:

lostinbeta
09-20-2002, 12:23 AM
Well I sure hope I know how easing works Ilyas, I did write those tutorials...haha.

Ok, so I understand how it is done, but I have no clue how to apply it to each dot in a dynamically created grid.

eilsoe
09-20-2002, 12:49 AM
I'd like to know this too...

pom
09-20-2002, 01:00 AM
Hmm... I'll post a thread in this forum later (after lunch, hehe). It's true that it could be very useful.

fadingblack
09-20-2002, 07:24 AM
sTILL having problems with that?

ilyas, i knew you would laugh your head off... yes, still having problems. Silly, isn't it??

Anyway, you have the right to have a good laugh! :P :P :P


Oh,and Flex... just great. Siple, elegant, dynamic. Very "naif", "minimalist", ha,ha,ha... A piece of art in a way :P :P

kirupa
09-20-2002, 07:54 AM
Hey all,
Just wondering, would it be possible for those of you who have submitted to repost the links in a separate thread of its own in the Scripting Contest forum. I think it'd be easier for people to find/look at your work if it is different from regular conversation.

Thanks,
Kirupa :rambo:

pom
09-20-2002, 09:45 AM
Good idea, Kir. But can you please read the post in the tutorial section, something called Trigonometry tutorial?

And should we advertise on other forums or are you going to do it all by yourself?

pom :asian:

kirupa
09-21-2002, 09:41 AM
Hey Pom,
I can use all the help I can get in advertising on other forums. I already posted on Flashkit, were-here, ultrashock, actionscripts.org, and bit-101! I wouldn't mind anyone going to these places and casually mentioning this in a conversation....but please don't spam =)

Thanks again for coming up with the idea for this contest. I whittled the prize down to only one copy of Swift 3D V3, so we can have another contest similar to this a few months. I am also planning on asking other people for other ideas for prizes; don't want to bug the nice people at Electric Rain too much!

PS: I think a trigonometry tutorial sounds really nice.

Cheers!
Kirupa :bandit:

pom
09-21-2002, 09:54 AM
Man, I almost had a heart attack when I saw your name at Bit-101! And the competition is going to be extra tough now...

Better get working :evil:

eilsoe
09-21-2002, 10:00 AM
i hope it doesn't get TOO tough!!

It's not fair to leave us newbies eating your dust u know! :P

flex
09-21-2002, 10:07 AM
I saw you there aswell Hannibal. http://flex.funkyolive.com/im/rofl.gif

kirupa
09-21-2002, 10:27 AM
Hey eilsoe,
Yeah, the more people that participate, the more likely there will be some excellent scripters who submit amazing entries. This competition is primarily designed to showcase cool code using a grid. The prize is just an afterthought (kinda like a huge after-dinner mint).

There will be more competitions planned in the future that will get more people into the fold =)

Cheers!
Kirupa :bandit:

lostinbeta
09-23-2002, 01:28 PM
Ok, has anyone thought of a name yet? I am still blank.