Brochure

[Yeldarb]

I just called Kinkos and asked them what DPI they recommended for a color brochure and they said between 1300-1500. So I did this in photoshop and the lag is incredible, my usually quick pentium 4 looks really slow. What would be the best way to do this? My brochure is going to be 8.5x11 inches. Would it be better to split it into sections? Or should I just keep going along at this slow pace?

[bet444]

I don`t realy think that a brochure should need more than 300 dpi, let`s say 600. My advice to you is to ask again. If that`s the real value, up to 1500, you could create the hole brochure on a smaller scale and record all moves. Than you may open the original image at 1500 and just aply the actions you recorded and let the Photoshop alone do to all the waiting...
I hope you get the ideea!...

[mlkedave]

yeah 1500 is extreme. I use 600 on my brochures and it looks photo quality (for me at least)

[mlkedave]

by the way, i have a fast computer too and even 600 lags it up. Its just a LOT for PS to render, the lag isn't really unusual

[Yeldarb]

how would i do that thing where I record all of the actions and then get it made bigger?

[CanadianGuy]

1300-1500 dpi...Wow! I've never printed anything over 500 dpi simply because I didn't even think anything above that would be visible to the naked eye. I'm looking at a poster I recently did at 300 dpi and it looks pretty darn good.

I guess if I were you I'd split it into sections. Bet444s suggestion sounds good but I know I myself would end up banging my head against the wall.

Good luck Yelly! You're gonna need it. lol

[bet444]

Using the actions panel. You`ll see some buttons:
:)

[Yeldarb]

Oh lol ;)

(i feel stupid now hehe)

[.soulty]

600 dpi is the way to go, the resolution that kinkos suggested is crazy, i think they were pulling your leg so to speak. as others have said 300-600dpi is enough for final professional printing.

[DDD]

anything after 600 is just way too much but I am pretty sure everyone told you that already

[.soulty]

so you think 600 is too much nathan? :P

[Yeldarb]

This is making me mad, I can't get anything to look good with CMYK colors... lol. You guys are right, 600 is probably good enough lol. Anyway, I'm giving up on print work for a while, I think I'm going to advertise another way lol.

Thanks guys.

[DDD]

anything after 600

I agreed with ya....lol.....I hardly use 600 honestly usually 300. But 1300 is off the chain.

[DDD]

yelly grab you a color theory book and find a good color mixer . often they good print colors and all you have to do is use the hex. Also there is a good color conversion link I posted a while back search for color conversion (rgb to cymk)

[Coolidge]

Don't go to Kinko's.
No one ever knows what they are talking about.

[SeiferTim]

I used to work in the Copy Center at OfficeMax (Which is how I learned photoshop - no one else would even touch the Pentium 4 they had back there... I was the only one who knew how to use it...) And they had a Xerox Color Copier, which could print/copy like you wouldn't believe! I don't remember the exact DPI of what it could do, but we never used that high of a DPI...
Their probably telling you what it can go up to, I dunno... 600 is high enough for anything sane... As a test, I took a regular 8.5 X 11 sheet of paper, with your standard 12pt font typed out on it. Then I used the big color copier to reduce it as far as it would, and printed it out. The result was a tiny box in the center of the paper, with black lines across it. It was almost too small for me to read with my naked eye - I could just make out the individual words, so I put the new print-out into the copier, and enlarged it all the way, and it came out with almost a perfect copy of the original.... a little blurry, but nearly perfect.
No one will ever really need to have that kind of power in a printer... ;)

[The Pete One]

Yeah, I've never done anything over 600 when doing stuff for me or for clients. I usally work at 300, or lower if possible.

One thing I definetly know though, Kinkos knows sh*%!

[danielthelion]

you guys sound crazy! heres the way you do something like a brochure :
vector! that way it doesnt matter. use illustrator or make it a pdf file.

[DDD]

you guys sound crazy! heres the way you do something like a brochure :
vector! that way it doesnt matter. use illustrator or make it a pdf file.

:trout: Daniel you deserve that for that comment and :trout: for saying not to use PS for a brochure....Have you done any brochures?...lol

[danielthelion]

yes, and im not knockin photoshop, but when your planning on getting something printed you ALWAYS go vector man, unless you absolutely have to use rastor.

[DDD]

I cannot think of a situation where I would use 100% vector for a brochure (well a high end one like I am sure he is after). BUt you can use a combination of PS and Ill which is the normal way.

[danielthelion]

ohhhh, the normal way, yeah i guess i was talking about another way. in any case, it just depends on the job ,and if he has a lot of photos in his brochure then i guess its going to have to be partially rastor, but he better have all of his text typed in illustrator or it'll look like *****.

[riderchic88]

actually I've done a lot of posters and things, all completely in photoshop at 300dpi, and gotten them copied at staples and they look amazing, text isnt one bit blurry (believe me i'm really friggin anal about print quality). of course if you REALLY want them to look nice, and be on the right poster paper stuff, go with a printer that will make plates ;) except that's generally really expensive because you have to get hundreds made at a time.

[danielthelion]

actually I've done a lot of posters and things, all completely in photoshop at 300dpi, and gotten them copied at staples and they look amazing, text isnt one bit blurry (believe me i'm really friggin anal about print quality). of course if you REALLY want them to look nice, and be on the right poster paper stuff, go with a printer that will make plates ;) except that's generally really expensive because you have to get hundreds made at a time.


cool, well whatever works for you i guess. with rastor images you're always limited by how big you can print something, vectors allow you to make text as large or small as you want it and still be crystal clear...which is what i like, versatility.

[DDD]

lol...we all know what vectors are and how they behave but a well thought out project can be accomplished in PS. I would never tell someone to use Illustrator exclusively as you will be very limited.

[.soulty]

i agree. A mixture of photoshop and illustrator is the way to go (photos /effects and vector type / shapes., theres even a time when i was using quark for my brochure layouts. :!: glad those days are over. Indesign CS all the way!

[DDD]

I have never used indesign....I have had it for quite sometime and I think it came with my CS studio purchase. Is it any good?

[.soulty]

indeed it is. Used it at work for some coporate companies catalogues, actually only used version 2. but cs ive seen has some really nice features. its such a breath of fresh air than using quark (aka STUPIDFREAKINBLAH!).....anyway. it's :thumb: