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matrixm5
February 24th, 2004, 03:40 PM
Hello,

I have done a site for a small company but do not know what to charge. There will be further animation for an intro and on the buttons(ie. sound effect and animation). The products page has not been completed but will look and feel the same as the other pages. Dont mind the Bob Marley song as it will be changed before going into production so as to not screw with copyrights and such. I would just like to know how much you all would charge for the look and size of such a site. Thanks in advance.

Here is the site (http://www.yawdis.com/SEAN11.html)

fester8542
February 24th, 2004, 03:47 PM
It depends on how deep the pockets are of the company you are doing the job for.

A large established company 4-6K

A smaller mom and pop shop 1500-3K

T-O
February 24th, 2004, 04:23 PM
2k-4k

Yeldarb
February 24th, 2004, 04:32 PM
i'd say the above prices are pretty close to right, but just a fyi, in the contact section i think you spelled "address" wrong.

Laslett
February 24th, 2004, 04:36 PM
That much really. Not to down play the site too much but does it have any database driven content or just a base with loading modules.


Oh 1 question whats the score on using the song do you have to pay copy right?

matrixm5
February 24th, 2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Yeldarb
i'd say the above prices are pretty close to right, but just a fyi, in the contact section i think you spelled "address" wrong.

lol...thanks, Yeldarb! I haven't revised for spelling yet but will do before putting into production. Appreciate it :beam:

As for the others that have replied thus far, thanks! I was going to charge $500 for the site but now you all have me thinking.

McGuffin
February 24th, 2004, 04:38 PM
A word of advice, before you even start working on a site for another entity, this should be written and signed on contract. Either they accept the price you give them now, or they won't pay up, and thats lost profit for you.

matrixm5
February 24th, 2004, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Laslett
That much really. Not to down play the site too much but does it have any database driven content or just a base with loading modules.


Oh 1 question whats the score on using the song do you have to pay copy right?

Hey Laslett,

There is no database driven content in the site. As for the copyright stuff, I was told that you do have to pay something to use the song. I just put in there for example purposes. This is only the second site I have done in total so dont know much about that stuff. Thanks for the reply dude;)



A word of advice, before you even start working on a site for another entity, this should be written and signed on contract. Either they accept the price you give them now, or they won't pay up, and thats lost profit for you.

Thanks Colin! I had discussed pricing beforehand and quoted around the $500 range. I just wanted to know out of curiosity sake what others felt the price should be for the future.

Digitalosophy
February 24th, 2004, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by matrixm5

As for the others that have replied thus far, thanks! I was going to charge $500 for the site but now you all have me thinking.

dude, dude, dude, please dont sell yourself that short man. great work, accept no less then $1500

matrixm5
February 24th, 2004, 05:52 PM
Thanx Digital...I will remember that.:)

El_Thierro
February 24th, 2004, 07:29 PM
Seriously? Does that pay up THAT much?

No no, don't get me wrong, I don't mean: does THAT SITE pay up THAT MUCH?!? It's a great site, I just didn't know anyone could earn that much by making a site. And by anyone, I mean: people who aren't organised in professional agencies and such.

Hmm, maybe I should brush up my skills and start learning some new stuff, and then find some clients :D I could certainly use the $$$... But I don't really see anyone paying that amount of money over here in Belgium :(

REEFˇ
February 24th, 2004, 07:34 PM
A dime probably ;). Only if the company got dough.

matrixm5
February 24th, 2004, 07:41 PM
A dime probably

a dime???? Thought it was worth atleast 25 cents.

REEFˇ
February 24th, 2004, 08:00 PM
Someone would really pay 2500 for it?

matrixm5
February 24th, 2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Sharif
Someone would really pay 2500 for it?

lol...no sharif. I was j/k...i meant literally .25 cents or a quarter. I just didnt know what you meant by a "dime".

REEFˇ
February 24th, 2004, 08:10 PM
Oooooh, lol ok. ;).

McGuffin
February 24th, 2004, 09:00 PM
Matrixm5, my advice, keep with the $500 to keep the client happy, and price up next site. In the long run you'll make more money by sticking to the original quote and leaving the client with a good site and a happy heart, so they'll pass your name onto friends and the like. If you mark up at this point, they're going to say to their friends "well, its a great site, but it ended up costing us $1500 rather than the $500 he quoted us for" and that will lose you customers.

REEFˇ
February 24th, 2004, 09:02 PM
I agree 100% behind Colin :thumb:.

lunatic
February 24th, 2004, 09:03 PM
Colin is totally right BUT . . . along those same lines beware that your client doesn't go to his friends and say "yeah I got this sweet site for only $500!" because then the friends will expect to get an equally great site or better for only $500. Gotta play that game and don't be afraid to increase your prices as your skills develop.

Great site by the way - made me hungry.

:hr:

McGuffin
February 24th, 2004, 09:04 PM
Oh yea, forgot to add in there, would you rather:
1) 5 clients at $1000 each, or
2)10 clients at charging $500 for one, and $1000 for 9 of them

I think you'll pick option 2. ;)

EDIT: lunitic is right, slowly price up, but if you can produce that quality a site already, I'd say $1000 next job, and then you can feel your way through the rest.

REEFˇ
February 24th, 2004, 09:07 PM
1) == 5000.00
2) == 5000.00 + 9000.00 = 14000

...Whewwwww. Still, the site doesn't have much to look at or hardly any backend coding. You can't really overcharge for something like that.

500 is enough man. I mean go as high as you can to get that $$$ but still, don't over do it.

Did you tell the client yet? Start off by telling him you want liek 1500 then keep dropping it little by little. Be like "the lowest I can go is 750" or something.

matrixm5
February 24th, 2004, 09:10 PM
I totally agree with all of you. I was not going to go back on my price but like lunatic said, now i know what to charge for the next time and not be afraid to do so. Thanks again dudes:)

El_Thierro
February 25th, 2004, 04:45 AM
Although I wasn't really of any help: you're welcome :D

And good luck with your future projects man.

Laslett
February 25th, 2004, 12:34 PM
so is there a kinda rule like $50 per hour. How can you write a contract specifying an amount at the concept stage?

Or do you base it on experience and hours worked on the site?


Just out of interest how long did you take to create this site?

lunatic
February 25th, 2004, 01:03 PM
There have been other posts like this before and I think it was Rev (sorry if I got this wrong) who said it best. And I think Collin who repeated along the same lines- you should sit down with the client and map out/write up a little statement of what needs to be done and what the client would like to see. If they leave it totally up to you then you should go home and think about it then write up a little proposal and come back to the client. All of this should be done BEFORE you decide on a price. Then you can come up with a reasonable estimate based on what the client wants and what you can accomplish.

In other words, there is no set rate as sites will differ from client to client.

But here's a question for those of you who like the hourly rate idea - do you charge for researching stuff you don't know how to do? I made a site for a friend and spent days worth of hours trying to figure out how to do stuff that I thought she would like on her site, based on stuff we had talked about. Great learning experience for me. But I wouldn't dream of charging for it since I couldn't deliver the product without spending a buttload of time learning how to do it.

What do ya'll think?