I never get pleased

[ScriptFlipper]

I can't be alone by making like 10 000 different designs for my own website... I never get pleased...

Since I made the current "top-menu" on azure.se I've created 3 other topmenus, and I can't decide wich one to use...
Actually they're only half-finished, because I never finish them before I make something new...

Creating websites for others is never a problem, but when it comes down to your own, ther is no limits of how many different ideas you can come up with...

[kO2n]

Loads of people starting out seem to just go straight onto the pc/mac and start 'doing it'. Really ideas should be drafted out on paper, not only is this quicker but you can really develop your ideas more fluently, thats my opinion anyway.

I agree with you, can't seem to settle on a design, but you gotta start looking into why you dont like it or why you feel you have to change it. Its no good just deciding 'nah, not good enough', and then starting on something new soon after, you should look into what made you think/feel like that.

Part of designing involves evaluation.

Viru.

[ScriptFlipper]

yes, but it's not that it's good enough.. I just come up with new ideas that I want to implement on the site... maybe I should have a library where I upload my ideas, so others can use them... hmmm.. yeah, I will do that!

This "phenomenon" :D is quite common, right?

[MrMass]

you shoud know up front what you want your site to be, or what type of services to perform, you should picture it in your head before you even sit on your computer....

try finishing all ideas before you stop doing it, dont give up to fast...I took me 5 completed sites before I release this final verison of mrmass....but that is if you really care for it, if is a client then on a second attempt you make final but if is for yourself then design as much as you can and maybe after few months you will see the difference between that period it will be drastic difference in your style.

p.s
something strange asked me to download flash player even do I have it...look into that

peace

[ScriptFlipper]

Yeah, I know what I wan't it to be... but usually I get like three to five different designs of it, and I can't decide wich one to use...
However, I made my choice now... :)

The strange thing: It's checking whether you have flash player 7 or not. if you don't, it will ask you to download it. but it still works in fplayer 6. hehe.. didn't think of that. thanks.

Cheers!
/Kalliban

[Laslett]

You have to decide and stick with it or you get a mish mash of ideas!

[ScriptFlipper]

hmm... I just realized that the title for this thread can look like it's about something completely different... :D

[ScriptFlipper]

laslett > I know! but one is better than the other... hehe.. it never ends!

[Michael Chen]

Yeah I get that sometimes.


Loads of people starting out seem to just go straight onto the pc/mac and start 'doing it'. Really ideas should be drafted out on paper, not only is this quicker but you can really develop your ideas more fluently, thats my opinion anyway.

I think "kO2n" is perfectly right.

It's the same for programmers. Famous quote for computer programmers, "The faster you get onto a computer the longer it will takes to program the program." (along those kind of lines).

Believe me that's true (95% of the time).


Back to your main problem:
However once you think you've got the perfect idea, stick to it. Don't stop and then change your idea (mid way through development) unless improving it will makes it 50% better, else don't change it. Or you'll just going into a cycle of design, implement, alteration, redesign, implement, etc ...

However these are just my opinions :)

[Laslett]

Originally posted by Kalliban
laslett > I know! but one is better than the other... hehe.. it never ends!
as a sys developer there comes a point where you have to take a cut off point to deliver a product

[ScriptFlipper]

good opinions though!
I'll keep that in mind!

If I design a website to a client, I do sketch some out on paper, also I do a sitemap and a list of database tables and so on... but when it comes down to my own site, it's an endless ficious (spelled right?) circle...

[McGuffin]

I had the same thing, I think I'm on the right track though. Just keep plugging along... I think when I started out, I saw way to many cool sites. Therefore, I was never happy with what I created, as I personally have a drive to be the best at everything I do, its impossible for me to continue something I don't think will be the best :(

I know what its like, it sucks mad, but just keep going at it, eventually you'll find your "happy place" and start pumping out sites like a demon! (-: You're not alone in the battle

[PixelSense]

yeah, that's what happens to me in everything i do... i'm always the first to start, and the last to finish... worst still, i can't finish....

the conceptualising of the site is what drains me... i keep coming up with new ideas and although they always inspires me and motivates me and keeps me going, in the long run, somehow it just slows me down.

But i have to say 80% of the time, the new ideas compliments or improves on the old ideas... so i guess i'm on the right track, just that i need more speed.

[kill.robot.kill]

another good Idea is to save previous versions of your sites, I don't know how many people do this, but it is a great way to view the progression of your site, and a great way to see (esp if you are still unhappy) what changes you made and how they effected the current design of your site.
Also I think another great thing is to receive honest feedback, this doesn't mean you ask some friend rudely tear your design to pieces, but have someone look at it, and have them question your choices, if you can't justify why you did a certain thing, (ie why 'this' is there, and why this is blue etc) you probably shouldn't have done it in the first place.

[McGuffin]

I do all of that, I have backups of my first site in HTML. Its really good to look back and see just how far you've come, because you realize you can only get better.

[neverrain]

I have that same problem!

[CanadianGuy]

I do the same as robot killer and always save previous versions of my work. A lot of times I'll get to a point in a project where I like the overall layout and feel, and I want to experiment, that's when the 'Save as' button is my best friend. It's also kinda funny to look back on them 'cause I'll think 'what the hell was I thinking with that one.' lol

[MrMass]

control + s = very nice function :P