Andy Rooney - Good Rant

[fester8542]

I agree with every word here.

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This is what Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back:

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires. I believe the
money I make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!
ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion. I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the:
United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America.
Try to have things like the:
United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens.
Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.

I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would be "FIRED" immediately!

I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in
English, see the above lines.

I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation recount votes when needed.

I know what the definition of lying is.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.

I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and
put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say "NO!"

"I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me french fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

And if you don't like my point of view, tough. DON'T PASS IT ON!!

[SureShot]

I agree with this - 100%



It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say "NO!"

and this


I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and
put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

[mdipi]

i agree with almost all of that too. esp. these parts here:


I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion. I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the:
United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America.
Try to have things like the:
United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens.
Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.

[Laslett]

Originally posted by trendax
i agree with almost all of that too. esp. these parts here:

I don't know sometimes it get me a bit when the equality thing has gone full circle.

Take the Mobo (Music of Black Origin) awards isn't that a little racist



I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in
English, see the above lines.

I used to think that but after the BBC did a documentry on the police force and discovered 5 high ranking officers basically showing their in-tollerance of black people I wonder how many more there are that aren't uncovered and my whole believe in the Police. I now believe if any law enforcement officer is found breaking the law in such a way the penalty should be 2 - 3 times that of a civilian due to their "power"



I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.
Once again having seen a documentry on so refugees coming to England and refusing a £250,000 house as it wasn't up to the standards that they were accostom my stance on this has changed.


It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say "NO!"

Without the parents charter being thrown in their face.

Well that enough for now

[eilsoe]

I agree 100% with all of it...

[reverendflash]

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

very true.

However, society has the right to ignore/call you names/try to 'enlighten' your arse as well. you also have the right to be a bigoted, hate mongering, Theater Usher who really likes to play with his cat and his 'special spoon.' You just have to deal with the social consequences.

;)

JWhttp://aulman.com/rev.gif

[Clayman]

I agree on absolutelyEVERYTHING in this.

[kirupa]

That was an excellent article :ub: I especially like the thing about the language part. If people want to live here, they better learn to speak the language. I don't feel like having to learn a new one because someone else simply doesn't feel like they need to :m:

[SureShot]

Very well said K-Man

I dont feel that if you move here you HAVE to learn the language, but if you dont, please dont get mad when people cant understand you and please, please. PLEASE dont open up a store where you deal with people everyday or go for a job working tech support somwhere. Nothing makes me more angry!!!!!!

[fester8542]

On the Tech Suppport note...

I just read an article on cnn.com the other day about how dell closed its customer support centers in India.

I guess they had India handling most of the US calls because of cheap labor.

The customers were complaining because the tech reps only knew how to pronounce certain things in english. So if you didnt specify the problem the way they were trained to hear it, you were a screwed.

[Laslett]

Originally posted by kirupa
That was an excellent article :ub: I especially like the thing about the language part. If people want to live here, they better learn to speak the language. I don't feel like having to learn a new one because someone else simply doesn't feel like they need to :m:


Ok heres one -

Morgage companies here in the UK offer special morgages to some Asian families who under thier religious believe can't pay interest.

So instead of an interest morgage the Banks have set up a system where they just pay a flat £100k if they borrow say £60K

Where does that stand on accomodating differing cultures, apart from good sense on the part of the bank?

[Coppertop]

I agree 100% as well. This guy is absolutely right in what he says. We have a language problem here in Canada - but it comes from Quebec. If you have ever been there (or plan on going) remember this - even though more or less everyone there can speak English fluently, some try not to where they can - and most of those "some" are running stores. And they don't give you a break when you try and speak French but do it wrong. For example in a French Subway (the sadwich place):

ME - Sault, Est-ce que je peut... eurh...
Him - *furrled brow of annoyance*
ME - erugh.. Achete! achete combo #2.
Him - *bah, les englais* You want combo #2? Hold on a sec.

Now, my french is pretty good - but everybody has those times when they just blank out and forget.


Morgage companies here in the UK offer special morgages to some Asian families who under thier religious believe can't pay interest.

What the hell!?!?! Thats just rediculous.

[Mik3]

If people want to come here they have to adapt to our country, we do not have to adapt to them

[Mik3]

man, i agree with everything there!

[[Legoman]]

Although there were some good points, it would be an entire different matter if the issues were subject to serious debate. Putting it across like that just makes him seem like an ignorant a**hole in my opinion.

[Marz]

As an ignorant *******? I'm just glad there are people like this... If there weren't, too many people would go around doing **** like this and get away with it...

I agree about the racial equality bull**** going on right now.. It's pretty sad when a white man in our area got jumped by 3 black men.. The 3 black men got charged for assault. A couple of months later a black man was jumped and beat up... The 3 white men were charged with assault? **** NO! They were charged with a Hate Crime AND Assault.. Doubling the fines and charges..

BULL**** BULL**** BULL****...

a) Language... I'd agree with this more if English was an actaul "country declared" langauge... But last time I checked.. We weren't like that unfortunately...

I agree fully to what Andy says except for the language part.. Only due to the circumstances of not setting up a personal language for the country.. I blame this on the writers of the constitution... And it's almost too late to change it.. Too many non english speaking people would rise up..

[Marz]

*lmfao*... If I were to blow off sometime about the United States and the path it's going.. I think I'd need a good many posts and replies on my own... This kind of stuff really upsets me..

I really get torqued off hearing about how this athlete doesn't wanna play because his ****ing *** can't handle 5 million anymore.. I'll be **** ****ing lucky if I see 5 million ****ing dollars so shove each one of those dollars up your *** and be glad someone thinks your *** is worth that much....

[Marz]

*lol*... Yeah man.. You are right.. Like I said.. The nature of this conversation leads me into the incospicuous meanings of wanting to hurt somebody therefore the language I choose seems to replicate that of someone who would most likely wnat to kill someone in the nature and meaning that I speak of.

No I didn't have a bad day, but the holiday season is coming up and I do work at the mall part-time. So when I work there I see the true nature of America and it is quite sad. Seeing a group of people tlak about how much money they are going to spend and then comparing each other's gifts as if it were a game makes the metabolic temperature flowing through my cardiovascular system boil to a point that no gaugae could reassemble.

I apologize for the bright affection stated with the use of stars and I apologize for the irate outburst about a topic that probably should not have been brought up in the first place.

[Marz]

Makeover... Did have contacts my friend.. But while I was in Detroit visiting my mother I came down with EKC in both of my eyes..

The doctors there prescribed steroids for my eyes and they ended up permanently damaging my eyes... Now they stay dry alot of the time... Therefore, dry eyes = bad seat for contacts...

Sucks.. But oh well.. My avatar and footer will actually change when I get something better.... But for now.. It's kind-a what I'm stuck with.. And my footer? ****.. By the way I've never had one.. I doubt one will exist anytime soon.. *lol*

[Marz]

*lmao*... Lemme see.. COuld possibly pull it off... Seeing as how I pull these trips off almost every single flippen month... *lmao*

Typically it would be to visit persuasions of the opposing sex though.. And to pick up server parts ;)

[Marz]

I dunno whether to be thrilled and turned on or running to the bathroom right now to throw up...

Decisions... Decisions.....

[RussianBeer]

For one:

Andy Roody did not say this!!!

This is a fake rant going around, I've seen this before

If he said this, he would have never said this:

see the above lines
and..


DON"T PASS IT ON!!

Second of all, am I the only one who this this guy is a NAzi!?

Whoever wrote this wrote it in an uneducated, untalanted, and uniformed opinion. He has no credibility whatsoever and his comparisons not only are completley rediculous and childish, what appears to be just an insult to people inteligence!

I disagree with almost everything he says...


not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

While we are at it, lets shoot them right in the head, sell their babies to china as meat and prostitute their mothers in Tailand, and sinse we are doing that already, lets just enslave the all the drug users , with their own habbit, and let them work for drugs and water.


Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.
I am not 100% anti-gun, there are cases where I think people should own guns, and I heard lots of good arguments for it, but this has to be the worse one;
A baseball bat is only a weapon when you use it as such, a gun is born a weapon The day I see a student go ape**** and slaughter 10 students within a minute with a baseball bat is the day I will be anti-bat.

I loooove this one:

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
and add this to it..

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different
And you get, gay bashings, lynching of blacks, hate crimes, skin heads, KKK and the Nationalists.


I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers
No? tell that to the natives who's land has been stolen, tell that to the hawaiiains who still aren't recognized as indigenous people. Tell that to the balcks who have been discriminated against, who were segregated. Feels great saying that from a white background raised in a free country...


If I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would be "FIRED" immediately! Because your a dip**** and can be easily replaced and cant provide a service to the company than someone else easily do.


I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!
Why? America, has no offical language, we can speak and sell what we want in any language we want, its called freedom. And not everyone has the same chances or ease of learning it. Well I think that to purcahse a milk shake, cigarette newspaper.. etc.. you should be able to speak spanish, why? well why not?


My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours Again, this guys is being super vague; disrespect? How, where, when why? And what should we do then? No, thats what makes America stand out from the rest, here you are free to say whatever you want, thats why your ancestors died for.


I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation recount votes when needed
And your point?


I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.
Yep, and the big buisnesses would love nothing more, have a popopulation of idiots (beacause the cant afford school) working on their farms, factories and mine shafts (because the cant start a buisness of their own.) Yeah that would be great having a even smaller kleptocratic elite that rule the friggin country!!

the chance to succeed and not be inslaved by the position you where born in and to do what we want, made this country!


I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more.

Sure,lets have monopolies run rampant, dominate everything and push all competition out and have a few fat cats share all the wealth,but it wont matter because Bill would have never made it there anyway he would have grown up working on a farm enslaved in debt with no chance of getting, and if he did have a chance of becomeing big, the other buisness will have undercut him, shut him out and buried him.

This pisses me off the most!

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.


So according to him... 100% of balcks in some cities are criminals!!!??? The argument above is honestly used by the USA Nationalist and the KKK

Honestly, look at his arguements, he would love a society that can be controled by rich elites, discrimination would be the order of the day, have as many guns as you want, turn a blind eye to injustice to peopke who are "weired", and make sure more people are more like you. ... sounds like the Old South if you ask me..

Honestly, this guy should go was his white sheets, or he'll be late for his cklan meeting... This guys is a total nazi, someone who had his head burried up his a ss because, apperantly he wasn't paying attention in history class.

Well thats my two cents

[RussianBeer]

But he didnt write this Phil... ;)

[[Legoman]]

I don't know Andy Rooney, but as Rb said, this wasn't said by him, it was said by some syrian net user. zeig heil.

[[Legoman]]

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-andyrooney.htm

[RussianBeer]

I agreed at first, until I saw that,
Thats why I came to North America, because here I thought people where fair, (more or less) and didn't dicriminate... well

I dont know how anyone could agree that 100% of blacks in some cities being criminals? And how thats a good thing..

[[Legoman]]

everyone's entitled to an opinion ;)
I think this article paints a very black and white(if you'll pardon the pun) view of things though, picking selective arguments and ignoring the big picture. needs a bit of grey(correct spelling ;) ) you can provide the red, and everyone else can throw their own pot o' paint.

[RussianBeer]

look..


in that Chicago is like 68% black and minority; And they commit their phair share of crimes, which is all this article says
First of all, what is "phare share?" is that 70%? 30%?


And many people fail to notice, most serial killers are...... white!

[[Legoman]]

I'm afraid you are wrong here RB...

[RussianBeer]

And what is he trying to say?

Blacks are naturaly just born criminals? Well lets just arrest them all to be safe...

[edit]
I admit my math was off :P
But my point remains, this guys is a KKK nazi!

[RussianBeer]

Yeah, but
a. Where does he draw the facts..
and
b. whats his point?

[RussianBeer]

That he is a KKK Nazi?
Yes, I thik he does.. oh yes.. crystal clear :D
http://www.ajokes.com/images/pictures/0134.jpg

[RussianBeer]

Yep :D

http://www.ajokes.com/jokes/1139.html

[[Legoman]]

money I make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.
Money is used to attempt to rehabilitate drug-dependants into functional members of society, in a bid to reduce drug-related crime-rates and deaths. children are removed from unsuitable parents so they can have a decent chance at life, what would you rather happened here? what are the many positive uses taxes go towards?


Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.
previously stated, guns are made to kill the others are not. of course you can kill somone with almost anything if you tried.


I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!
Why should they be segragated from a young age? so they have more difficulty relating to and accepting each other in the future?


The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the:
United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America.
a good point, these things were made to start evening the balance in a naturally ignorant and racist society, but have to be phased out as equality becomes more widespread.


I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self if you threaten them after they tell you to stop.
em...do what degree would they have to threaten? would we rely on their word for it? a man was killed for carrying a bit of wood thought to be a gun, police are human and therefore prone to errors of judgement as is everyone else.

A lot of it had "my distant relative did this and I was born in a certain place so I have more rights than you". Is everyone not born equal?(with particular attention to those of a religious direction)

[Marz]

Allright.. Well.. Someone really wanted to act upon what I thought wa sa good article in a way that I didn't even think upon.. Instead of initially bashing everything and getting irate like I have been.. I will carefully explain the nature of human beings and why the above should be looked at with tears of endearment and why, RB, you have to watch what you state and respond.



While we are at it, lets shoot them right in the head, sell their babies to china as meat and prostitute their mothers in Tailand, and sinse we are doing that already, lets just enslave the all the drug users , with their own habbit, and let them work for drugs and water.

What he means is that alot of us are supporting a war that we do not wish to support but we have to because we still work and enforce our money towards it. I for one think my tax dollars are currently being wasted. Therefore, this ideaology does not seem to be funny nor does it deem to be very appropriate for misdemeaning acts of intrusion.


I am not 100% anti-gun, there are cases where I think people should own guns, and I heard lots of good arguments for it, but this has to be the worse one;
A baseball bat is only a weapon when you use it as such, a gun is born a weapon The day I see a student go ape**** and slaughter 10 students within a minute with a baseball bat is the day I will be anti-bat.

So... Does it really matter if a kid goes ape **** and slaughters someone with a pencil as ooposed to a gun or any other type of object.. Wouldn't it be "killing" in the same sense.. I think so... And I gun was not theoretically born a killer of other humans.. It was born to help people hunt animals.. Yes, it kills them.. But it's for the good of meat... (plase no bashing from vegetarians.. we already know most of the points here)


I loooove this one:

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I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
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and add this to it..

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I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different
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And you get, gay bashings, lynching of blacks, hate crimes, skin heads, KKK and the Nationalists.


So... Because I don't theoretically "like" gay people.. That instantly makes me a person who would gay bash? No.. Opinions are opinions and are far from actions.. Lynching a black man is NOT THE SAME as saying you have no desire to like them. Sure words are powerful, but actions are worse. Not saying I don't generally agree with what you say... But we should value our own opinions and not have to change our opinions just to please someone.. Now our actions, that's another story.


No? tell that to the natives who's land has been stolen, tell that to the hawaiiains who still aren't recognized as indigenous people. Tell that to the balcks who have been discriminated against, who were segregated. Feels great saying that from a white background raised in a free country...

Yes.. because I feel so free now.. I have to watch everything I say I have to watch everything I do and I have to clean it up to make other people happy.. YES I feel free indeed..

Remember.. We as you see.. Are born into today... Blame those in the past, not us today.. They may have been our ancestors... But as far as I know.. I can not be held accountable for someone else's actions and therefore I will not account myself to those circumstances until I have done the avail. actions.


Because your a dip**** and can be easily replaced and cant provide a service to the company than someone else easily do.

Thank you for insulting one of my best friends.. I really loved that opinion of yours.. No.. He did have sex with a lady in the same office.. So what.. No relationships and no fighting.. But they both got fired because the boss found out.. No copmpany bi-laws against it or anything.. Still think it's fair now?!


Yep, and the big buisnesses would love nothing more, have a popopulation of idiots (beacause the cant afford school) working on their farms, factories and mine shafts (because the cant start a buisness of their own.) Yeah that would be great having a even smaller kleptocratic elite that rule the friggin country!!

the chance to succeed and not be inslaved by the position you where born in and to do what we want, made this country!

Yeah.. So while some kid that gets sent over here gets ALOT better treatment than me.. I have to sit here and work 16 hours a day while this kid enjoys life ALL because he comes to America... I wish I could go to Japan and get the same treatment.. But unfortunately.. Since I was born into an entirely poor family and since I don't have a single bit of credit.. I'm stuck right where I am.. Working to try and better myself...

But.. I guess it doesn't matter because I was born here and I was able to partake in all of those luxories that they receive..... :sigh:

Eh... I'll just quit here.. I shouldn't even be cross judging you.. But the way you presented yourself was about as bad as I presented myself earlier.. So I wanted to stop and redeclare things to maybe get a brighter picture on how you were wording everything so that you might be able to inform me.

[paradox244]

"When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black"
"So according to him... 100% of balcks in some cities are criminals!!!??? "

I dont really follow your math on this one, 70% of the ppl arrested are black meaning 30% are something else. In a city or town that is 70% black and 30% something else it makes sense that you see the same percentage in the arrest records. Calling him a Nazi is also a little uneducated seeing as the nazi's were the democratic party for Germany, just so happens Adi Hitler was a nazi. You seem to have them confused with the SS. I do not support any sort of crime, personally I think any sort of killing is a "hate" crime because you sure as hell didn't do it to show affection.
I agree with :
Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.
Right so maybe no one goes on a killing rampage with a bat sure the idea is ridiculous, but I have seen someone take out 12 ppl with a car, I might add considerably faster than the you could have with a gun.

[sintax321]

This whole thread makes me laugh. I live in Canada and Political Correct attitudes have compleatly destroyed where i live. Where i come from it is hard not to like the words from that rant who ever wrote them.

[olacrowe]

Hilarious. Don't any of you morons know how to check snopes?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/rooney4.asp

[TheCanadian]

Don't you know that it's 2008?

[leisuresuitlissy]

TheCanadian speaks TheTruth

[TheCanadian]

:lol: Surprisingly funny

[Templarian]

This is a good thread to res once and a while and everything that rooney said back then still applies :lol:

[Syous]

Hilarious. Don't any of you morons know how to check snopes?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/rooney4.asp

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/snopes.png

Taking bets on how long it takes olacrowe or w/e his name is to be banned.

[t0mm0]

Wow i have not seen this thread.
With political climate how it is here in Australia i completely agree.
We just "Apologised". Because that means ****.

[McGuffin]

Right, isn't it ironic how a group of (presumably as you agree with the text) white males agree with being disenfranchised? If there's ever been a group in American history that had the very least to complain about, and had done the utmost worst to other groups in society, it would be well-off white men. And that's coming from a white man.

I won't go any further, because it's no longer allowed to discuss political topics here. But I would be more than happy to answer to the text if a mod would allow me.

[Theros]

Put it this way, if someone like Andy Rooney could get away with saying this sorta of conversation on his rant on 60 minutes...then we'd be getting somewhere in this country. :P

[indiasfinest]

If America is going to be called "the melting pot of the world" then the people should and will learn to be tolerant. After all, they were once immigrants to. They only legit people ever in the US were Native Americans. So before people start calling it their country, remember who they took it from. Law of Probability is bull ****. That's like saying since most terrorists bombings happened by radical Muslims its okay to profile them at the airport (or anywhere else). Being a minority isn't a walk in the park on some days when people give you crap for no reason based on race. Of course, it probably declines as people mature. But I feel it everyday in school. Yes, they should learn English, but that doesn't mean we should disregard other cultures. Why is that every other country must also learn English? When US hegemony declines (its well in its process) we will see how this nation feels about learning Mandarin. It's easy to say things like
I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. It would mean simply numbers if people like Andy Rooney himself didn't use "Law or Probability". As a citizen and tax payer, I have every right to speak my opinion about this country. This doesn't mean I am constantly trash talking the nation, but that doesn't mean that I will be agreeing with everything the "majority says". I don't want to hear crap about immigrants when Americans want to give themselves the title of "the melting pot of the world". I am as equal and part of society as any white, black, male, female, etc person.



I agree with everything else he said
Edit: I didn't realize this thread was not actively being discusses since I skipped through the pages my first time around.

[DanontheMoon]

Awesome thread res. This is from before I joined. On that note, it's way too deep for me to jump in in depth, but Andy Rooney's the man, though he has points that I both agree with completely and vehemently disagree with. I love curmudgeons. Collectivism is nonsense, the only way to deal with individuals is as individuals.

[Theros]

If America is going to be called "the melting pot of the world" then the people should and will learn to be tolerant. After all, they were once immigrants to. They only legit people ever in the US were Native Americans. So before people start calling it their country, remember who they took it from. Law of Probability is bull ****. That's like saying since most terrorists bombings happened by radical Muslims its okay to profile them at the airport (or anywhere else). Being a minority isn't a walk in the park on some days when people give you crap for no reason based on race. Of course, it probably declines as people mature. But I feel it everyday in school. Yes, they should learn English, but that doesn't mean we should disregard other cultures. Why is that every other country must also learn English? When US hegemony declines (its well in its process) we will see how this nation feels about learning Mandarin. It's easy to say things like It would mean simply numbers if people like Andy Rooney himself didn't use "Law or Probability". As a citizen and tax payer, I have every right to speak my opinion about this country. This doesn't mean I am constantly trash talking the nation, but that doesn't mean that I will be agreeing with everything the "majority says". I don't want to hear crap about immigrants when Americans want to give themselves the title of "the melting pot of the world". I am as equal and part of society as any white, black, male, female, etc person.



I agree with everything else he said
Edit: I didn't realize this thread was not actively being discusses since I skipped through the pages my first time around.

No one is going to debate your point since ordered threads are not allowed here. Don't launch into a rant. :)

[indiasfinest]

No one is going to debate your point since ordered threads are not allowed here. Don't launch into a rant. :)
Yeah I kind of got worked up for nothing, as I said in my other post, I didn't see the dates till after I posted.

[Syous]

And who did the Native Americans take it from, Indiasfinest? Did they just "spawn" there, I guess it'd open a debate of evolution vs. creationism. vs. pangea theories, etc.

As for the airport, if radical Muslim's were behind the deed, then check anyone who fits the profile. I'd expect the same if radical Christians did it. I remember a few years ago I wore a trench coat on a plane when flying to Alaska, I got stopped and inspected at every freaking metal detector, I'm assuming since columbine was still fresh on people's minds. Did I complain? No, I was glad they were checking.

Whether or not Andy Rooney said it, what was said is very true. He's not un tolerant at all, just pointing out contradictions in what people are doing.

[Templarian]

^:lol:, that trench coat thing reminds me when me and my friends were sitting around playing wii, and one of our friends goes, how do I know if I'm a terrorist (he looks the part, beard also)... and we came to the conclusion the only way to be sure is to walk into an airport. One of these days we will have to test this theory. White + Africa = Middle East who would of known. :-/

[sekasi]

Yes let's all hold hands and celebrate narrow minded racists.

[nobody]

If America is going to be called "the melting pot of the world" then the people should and will learn to be tolerant. After all, they were once immigrants to. They only legit people ever in the US were Native Americans. So before people start calling it their country, remember who they took it from. Law of Probability is bull ****. That's like saying since most terrorists bombings happened by radical Muslims its okay to profile them at the airport (or anywhere else). Being a minority isn't a walk in the park on some days when people give you crap for no reason based on race. Of course, it probably declines as people mature. But I feel it everyday in school. Yes, they should learn English, but that doesn't mean we should disregard other cultures. Why is that every other country must also learn English? When US hegemony declines (its well in its process) we will see how this nation feels about learning Mandarin. It's easy to say things like It would mean simply numbers if people like Andy Rooney himself didn't use "Law or Probability". As a citizen and tax payer, I have every right to speak my opinion about this country. This doesn't mean I am constantly trash talking the nation, but that doesn't mean that I will be agreeing with everything the "majority says". I don't want to hear crap about immigrants when Americans want to give themselves the title of "the melting pot of the world". I am as equal and part of society as any white, black, male, female, etc person.



I agree with everything else he said
Edit: I didn't realize this thread was not actively being discusses since I skipped through the pages my first time around.

Pretty interesting rant from someone that has "YouJustHateMeCuzImBlack" as a user title. Especially since you're not black.

[B L U E]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpDyJObCKOY

Ah ha. "Is it cuz I's black?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFqiLGvZpVY&feature=related

"Would a real man ever get caught eating a twinkie?"

Crazy old man he is.

[fester8542]

Wow. All my old threads are coming back from the dead.

[Theros]

Wow. All my old threads are coming back from the dead.

scary, ain't it?

[McGuffin]

And who did the Native Americans take it from, Indiasfinest? Did they just "spawn" there, I guess it'd open a debate of evolution vs. creationism. vs. pangea theories, etc.

Most theories have humans crossing the Bering land bridge some 11,000 years ago, with Native Americans sharing similar genetic traits to ancient Mongols as well as Siberians. Regardless of whom was here first, and who to what for who, what's historically accurate is that, in general, the treatment of Native Americans by the European settlers was down-right deplorable.


As for the airport, if radical Muslim's were behind the deed, then check anyone who fits the profile. I'd expect the same if radical Christians did it. I remember a few years ago I wore a trench coat on a plane when flying to Alaska, I got stopped and inspected at every freaking metal detector, I'm assuming since columbine was still fresh on people's minds. Did I complain? No, I was glad they were checking.

A trench coat can conceal weaponry. Skin colour can't. I guess a white person parking at a government building should have their vehicle searched, re. Timothy McVeigh? Racial profiling is a gimmick used to rob law-abiding citizens of their freedoms.


Whether or not Andy Rooney said it, what was said is very true. He's not un tolerant at all, just pointing out contradictions in what people are doing.

Hardly. I guess it's a matter of perspective... I'll take this opportunity to address the author's points while I still can. I know "ordered" threads are not allowed on this, but the points made were far too offensive, and a good number of people here echoed that they agreed with them, so I figure I'm within my rights to give another view of the argument.


Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

This comparison is completely illegitimate, guns don't have a principle use outside of harming someone or something. You can kill with any number of objects, but that doesn't mean cars should be banned because a certain number of people die in accidents. Once you get passed this very similar reasoning, the right to bear arms no longer becomes an issue of the enforcement of public safety, but an issue of one's inherent right to carry a weapon even if there is a significant risk to public safety versus someone else's right to life.


I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!
ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?

Sure. People should and do have the right to start any group and limit its membership, so long as it's not in the name of a government or receiving governmental funding.


I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion. I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the:
United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America.
Try to have things like the:
United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens.
Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

I'd argue it is a phobia, as well as an opinion. Homosexuality is completely natural, it's not a choice. Homophobia is a revulsion to something completely natural and something that occurs in nature. As far as minorities are concerned, they are victims of numbers but also countless indignities. So long as the few are looked out for equally as the many. And I agree with the comments about Jesse Jackson. He belongs to a group of people that not only profits from racism but revels in the chance to gain publicity from it. If people like him didn't exist, much of the racial divide that exists would likely be mended.


I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.

You can be as intolerant as you wish, so long as you're within the law and not limiting the rights or abilities of anyone else to go about their business as they see fit. He's right about probability, however there have been many studies that shows that racial profiling does exist and it's rampant in many cities. That's not just an injustice against black people, it's unjust to everyone in society. White's should be equally as horrified as blacks when it comes to treating people of any skin colour unfairly or unjustly.


I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would be "FIRED" immediately!

I'm assuming the author was talking about Clinton. There is a process of removing any President from office, and the process (as it was designed) worked. He was impeached, and passed the vote. Simple. He would be fired immediately because he wouldn't have to be impeached to be removed... seems pretty clear to me.


I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English! My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

Who's laws are you demanding be enforced? Not America's, there is no official language of the United States and if someone wants to speak only a certain language, they're well within their rights to do so, just like you're well within your rights to shop elsewhere. Again, this is just blatant and illogical intolerance. I fail to see the disrespect involved. They died for the rights of that shop-owner to speak whatever language he sees fit, not for the right of somebody to be served in English.


I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.


Fair enough.


We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.

So far through this document, the only one infringing on what the Constitution says is this author.


I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

Because they were taken by Europeans, put in the hulls of slave ships by the hundreds, sailed across the seas and put into a life of hardship and torture for no payment. You don't go around saying you're a European-American because your forbearers chose to come here under their own will.


At the end of the day, all this amounts to is an elementary-level phony diatribe. He engages in many of the idiotic behaviors he's supposedly rallying against ("if everyone else is being treated to special treatment, why can't I?" without realizing that he lives in the single most advantageous society towards the majority in the history of humankind). He wants to be treated what he deems as "fair" by subjecting other people to unjust treatment under the same laws that he's proposing. This is utter foolishness, has absolutely nothing to do with anything resembling freedom or having society live under the rules that he supposedly expounds as universally true.

[sekasi]

Very well said. An interesting read too. Thanks.

[indiasfinest]

Pretty interesting rant from someone that has "YouJustHateMeCuzImBlack" as a user title. Especially since you're not black.
That's the second time you've tried to make a point out of user title. Usually, user titles are jokes and this one is no excepetion. If I recall correctly you even went through the trouble of changing your user title to "I just hate you because your ignorant" or something like that. It was an inside joke between me and Bright Eyes when I first joined Kirupa. Please respond to what I actually said instead of my user title

[indiasfinest]

As for the airport, if radical Muslim's were behind the deed, then check anyone who fits the profile. I'd expect the same if radical Christians did it. I remember a few years ago I wore a trench coat on a plane when flying to Alaska, I got stopped and inspected at every freaking metal detector, I'm assuming since columbine was still fresh on people's minds. Did I complain? No, I was glad they were checking.

Whether or not Andy Rooney said it, what was said is very true. He's not un tolerant at all, just pointing out contradictions in what people are doing.

Anyone who fits the profile? What exactly is the profile? Someone who is Islamic? Someone who is brown in color? As mentioned earlier, a trench coat can carry weapons, skin color can't. A large source of the problem is media in the United States is biased in that it negatively depicts Islamic culture.



Besides, Andy Rooney is a hypocritical prick. This is evident in using Law of Probability and then saying "It's not necessary to identify anyone by skin color" (This is immediately preceeded by him justifying that the use of the word 'Negro' is acceptable)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYTXnQ1_-SI&feature=related

[TheCanadian]

Anyone who fits the profile? What exactly is the profile?

Someone carrying a bomb would be a pretty good indicator.

[Counterproductive]

Timothy McVeigh was white.
I dont recall people with military backgrounds being held up at security afterwards.
Just saying.

[B L U E]

This is immediately preceeded by him justifying that the use of the word 'Negro' is acceptable)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYTXnQ1_-SI&feature=related

Petty semantics, imo.

[fester8542]

Bear in mind when this thread was created political and ordered discussions were considered okay around here. ;)