I Love p5

[mdipi]

:nerd: i know htis is a flash forum but i have fallen out of love with ActionScript and into love wiht p5. its so nice and sleek.

http://www.mdipi.com/p5/

i know i know a rip of bits main page but i needed a fast little page, i will remake it later.

the first two you need to clikc then move your mouse, then the third is statice, fourth is you move your mouse too.

let me know what you think but keep in mind this is after one night of fooling around with it.

-Mike

[APDesign]

FLASHPHEMY!

[Mik3]

Mind tellignme what processing is?

It looks like C++ OpenGL Code, but it's in some web ap.

[APDesign]

looked like java to me :-\

[Mik3]

no it's not, it's absolutely awsome!

where did youg et it Mike?

It says it's not availiable for download.

[Mik3]

OMG,Look at the sonic wire sculpture!

[eilsoe]

as far as I know, you have to email the creators to get the DL link... dunno...


and dipster, what the hell is up with that rotating box?? It's freaking out!

[Mik3]

ok thanks, the mouse sensitivity for that one is off

[McGiver]

nice, but didn't someone tell you that frames are evil

[mdipi]

go to the processing site and give em your e-mail.

its almost exact to java exept it has a 3d engine and a few other things, i am gonna start java and C++ soon cause they are a lot like processing from what i hear.

I donno whats up with the 3d cube, i need to change some settings i suppose.

[Marz]

Alot like processing? I think you stated that wrong.. Processing is a smidgeon of what C++ is.. and basically just another Java..

But who in there right mind would just want to look at silly 3d graphics in a frame type environment.. Especcially when you can make a Flash application melt into an html page like it's nothing.. :)

I can see the power.. But it stillt akes the time to laod the power... And the examples on their web.. albeit some may be too much for Actionscript.. But if you did it right.. Most can be replicated on Flash :)

[c!rYx]

Pretty cool, besides that it crashed my opera :D

[mlk]

pretty cool


:but not anywhere near flash =):

[mdipi]

hmm i can see where you are coming from...but you have to see the code, most of those were no more than 10-15 lines at most....and not even full lines at that...

i just think that ActionScript is taking to long for me to learn so i wanted to try something new...

[APDesign]

when I get sick of AS, I just do some PHPin :thumb:

[ahmed]

Originally posted by buddhamarz
I can see the power.. But it stillt akes the time to laod the power... And the examples on their web.. albeit some may be too much for Actionscript.. But if you did it right.. Most can be replicated on Flash :)
oh pah-leez, don't go comparing AS with p5.. there's no comparison, the purpose of actionscript isn't similar in any way to that of p5's :trout:

[mdipi]

i am not comparing. just saying that as got boring lol and just wanted to show off my experiemtns!

[Marz]

There aren't too many things in p5 that flash can not do.. They are both programming languages.. Sure p5 makes it easier to write that code.. But is "easier" really better whne it comes to coding?

I don't think so... Personally you don't learn about optimization and all those other important necesities that you find in any real world type applications.

The only differences would be the cam supports and technically.. we can get that supporting in flashcom.. Anyways, when I ran those things you created.. I didn't see a significance speed boost to something that could be done in that...

Just my personal thoughts.. Processing is a waste of time.. Might as well do something in C++ or Actionscript....

Well here.. To change my mind.. I'll be fair about this.. You can change my mind if you show me something made by processing that can not be replicated in any way on Flash AND can be turned into somethign useful..

Does that sound fair? If you can.. I'll start saying that processing is better than.. :) But form what i've seen.. i wasn't really impressed.

[mdipi]

lol if i find something i will holler up your allie :P

its just something new...imean bit uses it...:D

[Mik3]

mike, when you learn C++ and if you're going to do some game designing go here:

http://www.gametutorials.com/Tutorials/tutorials.htm

I recommend OpenGL

[mdipi]

sweet mike thanks...would be great if i was on a windows machine :P

man i cant think of a good experiemtn now...well one that doesnt involve the mouse.

[Johnny64]

Originally posted by buddhamarz
There aren't too many things in p5 that flash can not do.. They are both programming languages.. Sure p5 makes it easier to write that code.. But is "easier" really better whne it comes to coding?

I don't think so... Personally you don't learn about optimization and all those other important necesities that you find in any real world type applications.

The only differences would be the cam supports and technically.. we can get that supporting in flashcom.. Anyways, when I ran those things you created.. I didn't see a significance speed boost to something that could be done in that...

Just my personal thoughts.. Processing is a waste of time.. Might as well do something in C++ or Actionscript....

Well here.. To change my mind.. I'll be fair about this.. You can change my mind if you show me something made by processing that can not be replicated in any way on Flash AND can be turned into somethign useful..

Does that sound fair? If you can.. I'll start saying that processing is better than.. :) But form what i've seen.. i wasn't really impressed.


Sorry marz but just can't agree :P

Flash kill P5 any day at websites but.... p5 kick AS's ....
the only thing thats better about AS is that is work with Flash. And p5 is on it own. But that is no reson to say that its a waste of time. If you know AS well you can learn P5 in a few days...I dwonloaded it last friday and i know a lot aready. So if you know P5 well you can learn AS easy. And lets not forget that P5 is FREE!

here is to prof the p5 is faster then AS
P5: http://www.master64.nl/P55/applet/index.html
Flash: http://www.master64.nl/P55/applet/index2.html


the p5 one has 1000 stars and has no problem
the flash one has 100 with no problem but if you set that too 500 it all ready starts too slowing down.

but am still a fan of AS who like p5 too :D

[Marz]

Well here.. To change my mind.. I'll be fair about this.. You can change my mind if you show me something made by processing that can not be replicated in any way on Flash AND can be turned into somethign useful..

Does that sound fair? If you can.. I'll start saying that processing is better than.. But form what i've seen.. i wasn't really impressed.

I'm still focused on that... It doesn't change the fact that a bunch of "pixelated stars" has anything remotely due to circular stars..

The least you could do is make em boxes.. I know this won't make too much of a difference.. But, circles take a decent amount of calculations to do. A simple box in scaling is 2 x L. The circle has to deal with pi and area.

Like I said.. it won't make a big difference.. But in comparisons, I like to get everything equal. :) Also, make sure that the original movieclip is 1 pixel wide by 1 pixel and does not have a border.. :D

Then again.. I didn't say p5 wasn't faster moving than Flash.. I just wanted to know an application ahndled by p5 that is both better AND useable. :)

[Johnny64]

Originally posted by buddhamarz

Then again.. I didn't say p5 wasn't faster moving than Flash.. I just wanted to know an application ahndled by p5 that is both better AND useable. :)


Fine :P

P5 is useless but it fun and that reson why i like it :D

but you sad it your self you have never ever downloaded it so how can you know its crap?


Edit: What am i doing....i can't win form you.:D

[Phat7]

It's not fair to compare these things. I mean there's no AS without Flash, but there's p5!

And also what about the file sizes?.. What's the difference?

[mdipi]

udated my p5 site added a spider web type thing. click and then move your mouse around and it draws it.

www.mdipi.com/p5/

[Marz]

Originally posted by Master64
Fine :P

P5 is useless but it fun and that reson why i like it :D

but you sad it your self you have never ever downloaded it so how can you know its crap?


Edit: What am i doing....i can't win form you.:D

It's easy to win my judgement.. Just SHOW me something of use... I won't use p5 because it presents no apparant use right now. If it were to present an apparant use then I might actually use the thing.. You know what I mean?

Why build things like that on p5 when I can do it with Flash or C++ right now? It's just something that I don't need... Now, if it had something totally sweet that I'd use, then hell yeah.. I'd use it! :D

I don't think I'm being unreasonable here.. Just a very busy person at times and another language that has no apparant use would not be manageble.. :D