Pricing Question

[spazzblaster]

I posted this up before to be checked out, but I have another question. I'm not real familar with what is typically charged for building websites and I need to quote a price.
Could anyone give me some idea of what should be charged for a site.
A lot of content has to be added to the site to complete the catalog section.

The address is;

www.chopjob.com



Thanks for any help!
spazzblaster

[Yeldarb]

how much time did you put into it?

i'd say about 50-75 bucks

(btw, did u make this in Flash or Swish?)

[odedvard]

charge em $250 dollars....****it..hehehe

[eyeinfinitude]

Originally posted by odedvard
charge em $250 dollars....****it..hehehe

You must be kidding me, I wouldn't even charge them if I made that site. I would just give it away for free.

It's too "kiddy" looking and yes it does have that Swish feel to it.

The most you could charge for something like this is $30-$50.

[Marz]

Hmm... Don't undercharge yourself... yes it does have a kiddy feel to it.. But if they like it.. They will pay for it.. at least $100... and I'm serious...

[odedvard]

i was kidding electron...but spazz i say its worth a try just to see if they will pay it. maybe get some money and put it towards a Flash education.

[spazzblaster]

Well, thanks for all the input you guys.

And I gotta say, I don't know who you guys are building websites for, but I was already offered $850 for it, but I felt the amount of content that has to be added might mean I should charge more. And after doing some pricing elsewhere, this seems to be about the right price.

As for the site being "kiddie", electrongeek, it's a fireworks - it's supposed to be fun and flashy, not every site has to look like it's a control panel from a spaceship, which seems to be the look of choice for newbies who just graduated from graphic design school. But your comment doesn't really mean all that much to me after I read several of your posts and realized that all of your posts are snotty, pretentious insults disquised as advice. I imagine when you lose your virginity, you'll calm down. HA, HA, HA!


Thanks for checking it out!
spazzblaster

[Laslett]

A little harsh!

[Yeldarb]

1.) at 850 dollars, you're ripping them off BIG time
2.) ROTFLMFAO- u're calling electrongeek a n00b? LMAO hahahahahahaha
3.) that is definitely not and I repeat not the way to talk to a mod (actually that's not the way to talk to anyone who is helping you- or isn't for that matter) if you want to continue to have posting priveledges, You're **** lucky that isn't Phil or you'd have been banned a half second after posting that.

I recommend that you edit your post to be a little more friendly before electrongeek sees it.

[Laslett]

Originally posted by Yeldarb
1.) at 850 dollars, you're ripping them off BIG time


I suppose its what they thinks its worth. If they have 850 and are willing to give you 850 for it then so be it. I suspect that to a few Kirupians it may be worh slightly less than that but c'est la vie as they say in Germany

[Yeldarb]

yeah, if they'll pay it, take it, but you asked our opinion, and mine is that that is more than what it's worth.

[spazzblaster]

Your right, I did ask for your opinion on pricing and I truely appreciate everyone's input, even if I didn't agree with the price they quoted. And I do mean that, thanks for taking the time to respond.

What I did not ask for however, was this;


Originally posted by electrongeek
You must be kidding me, I wouldn't even charge them if I made that site. I would just give it away for free.

If that's not intentionally aggrivating, I don't know what is. Just a price quote would have been fine.

Once again, thanks to anyone who took the time to look at it!

Ahhh, politeness, the way the world should be.

Later,
spazzblaster

[kei]

man i wish i had clients that paid that much $$$.. :puzzle:

I dont know how much more content your gonna add to it but if I was you I would just accept $850 before they change their mind :bad:

[Digitalosophy]

Originally posted by spazzblaster
Well, thanks for all the input you guys.

And I gotta say, I don't know who you guys are building websites for, but I was already offered $850 for it, but I felt the amount of content that has to be added might mean I should charge more. And after doing some pricing elsewhere, this seems to be about the right price.

As for the site being "kiddie", electrongeek, it's a fireworks - it's supposed to be fun and flashy, not every site has to look like it's a control panel from a spaceship, which seems to be the look of choice for newbies who just graduated from graphic design school. But your comment doesn't really mean all that much to me after I read several of your posts and realized that all of your posts are snotty, pretentious insults disquised as advice. I imagine when you lose your virginity, you'll calm down. HA, HA, HA!


Thanks for checking it out!
spazzblaster

not only are you an idiot, your website sucks and i highly doubt someone offered you $850. electrongeek has helped me and a sick amount of people around here, go soemwhere else

[blah-de-blah]

You are very lucky to get the site for $850!! Accept it now!!

btw, electrongeek was pretty harsh on you, but you were the same to him so i would just say it is even !

[eyeinfinitude]

spazzblaster, hahaha I know that the site is suppose to be fun looking since you're trying to sell fireworks, but there are ways to make it more professional.

But since I'm a newbie, what do I know right? I'll let the others decide if your site is worth $850. :P

BTW, I'm sorry if I made you cry, that wasn't my intention. Please don't get butt hurt each time someone makes a harsh comment around here. We're not here to hand out compliments, just the truth. Aww man there I go again with my comments disquised as advice. Darn, oh well, have a nice day. :P

[neverrain]

Not to be rude (my cover up) but I think you should pay them to use that site. :P

And if electrongeek says he would give it away it is **** bad. :P

Sorry man but I just had to leave out the sugar coating on this one. :p:

P.S.
But since I'm a newbie, what do I know right? Tell me that was sarcasem. You are like my Flash hero. lol FAR a newbie.

[Marz]

Yeah.. Eg is a newb.. Stupid NEWB.. BAD NEWBIE BAD.. Go back to Random where you belong EG..

Just Kidding my cute lil Geekie buddy of mine.. Come give the big guy a hug.. ;)

*lol*

I'll have to agree with the others.. But at the same time I would have sympathized with this person if he hadn't of gone and acted like a moron then... Saying that his site isn't worth anything is a pretty low comment to say EG and it really isn't something you would wnat to here about a site that you might have made... Remember, some people take things a little differently at times..

But that's just my random rant and rave section.. Let the slamming begin :bad: :D

[eyeinfinitude]

Well I'll admit that I was a bit harsh, I don't mean to be an a$S, sometimes I get carried away with my comments.

Who ever is paying $850 for it must be really loaded and use $100 dollar bills as toilet paper. Ok I better shut up now.

Congrats spazzblaster, good luck. =)

[Marz]

*lol*.. That's much better my cute lil geekie phriend..

Don't take much of anything I say seriously in that remark.. it's just, every so often I have to show compassion so I don't lose it and start killing people like him :D

*lol*

[Digitalosophy]

honestly i bust my *** to make $850, i just think this whole thread is obserd

[Laslett]

Best thing to do is take the money. As take on what people have said about the professionalism thing. Take a look at the pixel people thread of something like Habbo Hotel. Very kiddie but very well done

[neverrain]

Ok here is my honest opinion, better get your glasses on, get a cup of joe and **** the hell down and read......

The site looks a little to kid made, people like professional good looking sharp, clean, graphical intensive web sites so that they look good and show the user they are technically savvy. Little does the non-geek user know that it is a purchased template...but yeah, were all just blowing steam up each others butts with fancy sites and graphics (pardon my ruff figure of speak).

The template you made is not very ‘professional’ looking nor graphically correct. The site’s color scheme is a little to...um, party like/kid designed. Maybe use less colors, you should stick with like a 2-3 set color scheme. I think you need a good background tile if your going to make a black background, just so it pads the intensive blow to the other colors. Blue...blue is always a good color scheme for black if you are going to use a black background. IMO

For around $30 dollars a user can buy a very nice template. I have seen a couple templates I couldn’t even make that only sell for around $30 dollars and no that wasn’t a skills blow to myself. :P

Bottom line, at the end of the day the user would rather buy a more professional looking, better color schemed more technically advanced template for $30 dollars rather then from you for $850, I’m sorry but you have to face up to the facts about that. The only site I would pay $850 dollars for is maybe like Pixel Rangers and or Electrongeek’s. lol

Maybe you should check into learning color schemes and or graphics, I know Fireworks is not a very intensive graphics program but you can make a nice logo with it at least. Personally I would use Photoshop to make the site. :)

Electrongeek, your not to harsh, we don’t post hard comments to hurt others feelings or make them feel small in some way or another. We post the negatives, the down sides so that the user can get a perspective of what people really think about their web sites. If we all just said nice, good job, A+ comments, in other words, lying through our teeth, noone would get feedback nor would they improve their site to the user’s input towards his/her’s site. Basically the poster/site design would just be posting to get a lot of great jobs from people with better things to do then to complement a bad design.

So if anyone here thinks Electrongeek or anyone else with a “harsh” comment is trying to put them down or disgrace their hard work, they are sadly mistaken, we help not hurt. :p:

Good luck with the renovation of your web site spazzblaster, I hope some of our “harsh” comments not only made you cry but opened your eyes to new design aspects.

The Site Check Meany,
-datapimp

[Digitalosophy]

well said

[odedvard]

i rethought the whole pricing scheme, and i think that spazz should be componsated with a lifetime supply of growing ash snakes, and those crusty smoke bombs that you buy at the grocery store.

[gmh526]

dude, congratulations spazz!
you're one hellova salesman if milked 850 bucks out of those suckers!
dude, can u like, hook me up with them? ive got some million dollar business cards i think would really interst them.

sorry man, were all being *****holes, but after some of your comments you may have desrved it...

lets all chill out, its just flash design. there are far more important things in life, like ****ography. or at least thats my immature thake on it.

hope this little incident doesnt smash your website design dreams or chase you away from kirupa forever.

[spazzblaster]

Wow,

Look what I started! I didn't know picking on ElectronGeek was like spitting at God.

I just got home from my job, (not a web design job, you'll be glad to hear) and found my post had caused a fury of righteous anger.
I immediatly began to cry and blubber as I fell into a heap on the floor wailing in agony from the stinging insults and then I think I peed myself.....just a little bit though.....you know, just enough to make a spot on my underware. But then I found my binky and my teddy bear and everything just seemed better somehow.

So anyway, I quess I'll consider myself lucky that my client thinks my website is worth $850 dollars and take it!

If anyone will humor me though, I actually would like to know who some of you guys make websites for and how much you charge. While I realize that my site looks as though it was made by a mongoloid three year old, this would help me get an idea of what to charge for different types/qualities of sites.

Sorry for all the controversy!

Thanks to everyone who responded!
spazzblaster

[neverrain]

Originally posted by spazzblaster
Wow,

Look what I started! I didn't know picking on ElectronGeek was like spitting at God.

I just got home from my job, (not a web design job, you'll be glad to hear) and found my post had caused a fury of righteous anger.
I immediatly began to cry and blubber as I fell into a heap on the floor wailing in agony from the stinging insults and then I think I peed myself.....just a little bit though.....you know, just enough to make a spot on my underware. But then I found my binky and my teddy bear and everything just seemed better somehow.

So anyway, I quess I'll consider myself lucky that my client thinks my website is worth $850 dollars and take it!

If anyone will humor me though, I actually would like to know who some of you guys make websites for and how much you charge. While I realize that my site looks as though it was made by a mongoloid three year old, this would help me get an idea of what to charge for different types/qualities of sites.

Sorry for all the controversy!

Thanks to everyone who responded!
spazzblaster

Don’t Give me that I was crying bull, pick on my buddy Electrongeek and you get the rap from me. :scream:

And yes picking on any of the Kirupa members will end in a not pleasant conversation and you will be hated by many kind, outgoing people and noone wants that. It’s not just if you pick on Electrongeek it’s if you pick on any of us. “You mess with one of us you messed with all of us”.

Listen I know you weren’t trying to be to mean to Electrongeek but it’s just how it came out, considering he made some harsh comment too but I covered that in my above post.

If your “client” thinks it’s worth $850 dollars it’s either your mom and dad or a blind man. :P
Yes if your client really does think it is worth I would take it in a New York minute and get out of there as fast as humanly possible.

The most I have ever made on a web site is $200 for one template page, the guy knew enough HTML to code the rest so he just bought one template. :( And hey, I think I can say I’m not all that bad at page layout, graphical interfaces and just making an all around nicely done site, but I’m not going to pat myself on the back to much because I’m not THAT good but I get a nice little page going.

I just wanted to get that straight with you,
-Multimedia in Motion, datapimp

[eyeinfinitude]

The most I ever made on any project is a pat on the back. How I'm able to pay my bills, I have no idea. :P

Us newbies don't make that much money. :P I better get back to work so I can earn the newbie money.

[neverrain]

EG what are you talking about?

If your a newbie I am still in the woom. :P

P.S. I'll pat you on your back until you burp for a web site. lol I would though,

[spazzblaster]

Originally posted by datapimp
If your “client” thinks it’s worth $850 dollars it’s either your mom and dad or a blind man.

Well both my parents are dead and unless my client (no quotes) recently gouged out his eyes, he's not blind. And although I'm sure none of you will believe me, I just talked to him on the phone and we agreed on $850 for the site with all content added and he said he would pay me a hourly rate for any future updates needed when new stock is added.

It is funny the contrast between his reaction to the site and most of yours. He's viewed probably most every fireworks site he could find on the web, since they are his competition, so if he likes it better than any of thiers, which he said he did, than I quess either he has really bad taste or most all of the fireworks sites on the web are even crappier than mine.

Either way it works out for me! And I'll probably get a pat on the back as well!

spazzblaster

[eyeinfinitude]

Alright, no more flaming, everyone let's be happy for spazz and stop this nonsence.

[slayerment]

'Joe, there are no sub-pages connected to these buttons yet!'
LOL!

The site is functional and works. Sale it and move on.

[Laslett]

Ok first things first. Spazz kudos for finding a client I think its been established that general opinion is that that ever so slightly over the market price for the site but "Smoke em' if you got em".

Leads to the question would everyone rather have clients that know what they are talking about or ones that have alot of cash and are coming to the end of their financial period and have under spent

[spazzblaster]

Originally posted by slayerment
'Joe, there are no sub-pages connected to these buttons yet!'
LOL!

Ya, that one's great, I tell it at parties all the time and it always gets them laughing!

Now stop responding to this post or I'll have to create another equally annoying one.

spazzblaster