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luster
October 11th, 2003, 11:04 AM
Hi,

with the release of the iPod III I'm considering buying one.
But I have a PC running Windows ME, with only USB 1. Will I be able to use the iPod? Everywhere on the Mac site it says "FireWire or USB 2.0" but wouldn't USB 1work too, but only slower?


Luster

Voetsjoeba
October 11th, 2003, 11:07 AM
USB 2.0 is downwards compatible, so it should work with USB 1.0 too, only at a lower speed indeed, a theoritical maximum of 8Mbit/s, where USB 2.0's is 480Mbit/s I think.

Ranoka
October 11th, 2003, 04:14 PM
Whee, I can help with this!

I just got my iPod III 20GB :D I have an AMD XP 1900 with XP home. I bought a FireWire (400Mbit/s) PCI card specially for my ipod because it's much faster then USB 1 (which I have, I dont have USB 2) and its the ONLY option that charges while its syncing.

If you have a FireWire port that is 4 pin it wont charge because the extra 2 pins on the 6 pin port are for power.

Okay, it says in the manual that you CAN use USB 1.1, although I would seriously think otherwise! I can only imagne how slow it will be to upload files onto it!

It takes about half an hour to transfer 10GB with my setup. (that must be about a week with USB 1)

I got a FireWire card for £10 from dabs.com, which is hardly anything considering iPods cost about £300. If your going to complain about spending that on a FireWire card, then maybe you should consider whether you can afford an ipod!

luster
October 13th, 2003, 03:35 PM
Hmm, you can't charge and sync at the same time with USB 1?
I think I'll get me a FireWire card too.....or a Mac maybe....
Thanks all!


Luster

killerizer
August 17th, 2004, 07:15 AM
Hi all,

I know this reply is a little late but I found the info here very useful while I was waiting for my ipod to be delivered and I wanted to verify it.

My ipod (the new 4gen model - comes with the USB 2.0 and Firewire cable) works with my laptop (Dell Notebook C600 - I think about 4 years old - I "inherited" it, W2K service pk 4) which does not have USB 2.0.

Warning: its much much slower (transfering about 9Gb of tunes took about 2.5 hours) but it does do it despite heavily hinting in the ipod docs that < USB 2.0 is not supported.

I've ordered a USB 2.0 card for better speed but just to let you know that USB versions do seem to be backwards compatible.


Thanks for your help.

[uber]
August 17th, 2004, 03:19 PM
um... ipods are awesome and everything... but what does this have to do with swift3d?

just a question

ahmed
August 17th, 2004, 03:23 PM
hahaha, good question ubermensch, i'll move it to Computer and Games :)

mdipi
August 17th, 2004, 03:56 PM
Yes, i would totally spring for that FireWire card, no doubt there.

As already stated, it will work, but just not as well. The charging is a big thing for me too, I love just plugging it into my PowerBook and letting it sync and charge, its the best combo you can have.

BTW: The newest gen of the iPod (click wheel iPod) is Gen 4 :D

Yeldarb
August 17th, 2004, 04:50 PM
USB 2 also charges while it syncs :)

I love my new 4g iPod :D

telekinesis
August 17th, 2004, 06:16 PM
How much you all pay for your iPods and where do you buy them?

lunatic
August 17th, 2004, 06:39 PM
If you are in the states then cnet.com is always a good place to check for prices.

compare prices - click here (http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_iPod__20GB__fourth_generation_/4014-6490_7-30978806.html?tag=ob_50&orderby=50&sort=asc)

:hr:

Kajinku
September 6th, 2004, 10:29 AM
Ah, the iPod...

I was wondering: suppose I'm looking for a 4Gb MP3 player. I have the choice between the iPod mini that everyone seems to buy and the Creative Muvo2.
Why would I buy the iPod when:

1) the Creative Muvo2 is $50 cheaper;
2) you can change the battery of the Creative Muvo2;
3) the Creative Muvo2 is lighter than the iPod mini?

The only downside of the Muvo2 is:

1) it looks cheaper and more "plastic-ish" than the iPod.

I would like to know your opinions on this, I don't know what to buy... :)

Kajinku
September 9th, 2004, 06:42 AM
So Muvo2? :sleep:

iloveitaly
September 9th, 2004, 09:35 AM
well i dont know what the Muvo2 features are but....
I am almost 100% sure that the mini also has a calender, games, notes, contact, and a clock.

λ
September 9th, 2004, 12:45 PM
People go for the minis because they're popular and want to look stylish ;)