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senocular
October 2nd, 2003, 03:08 PM
Which is a shame. Very highly anticipated game.

http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/modules.php?op=modlo ad&name=News&file=article&sid=665


Half-Life 2 Source Code Leaked, Seriously
Posted by: Pyroman[FO] on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:02 AM EST

So I know what you're thinking. "Yeah right Pyro, it's really just more suprise gay ****" but its the real deal. The source code for Valve's Half-Life 2 has been leaked to the net. An anonymous GWJ reader has verified this is real.

I can confirm that this is indeed no fake ... The thing is available as a torrent download on the net. I don't know how much action they will take against people downloading this. ... The last edits are from a month ago (in the files). If this is fake, it is a **** good one. It looks very coherent. Over 100 megs unpacked source

There's still no official word from Valve and I haven't seen any other sites pick it up. There isn't any word on who leaked it either and from what I have heard the source doesn't give it away. Hopefully when this gets out in the open Valve can work with its partners to figure out who did this. Let's also hope it doesn't delay Half-Life 2 any further.

One things for sure, this can't be ignored. Those in the know already have it and they're probably working on their first cheat right now. Legitimate customers are the ones who need to know about this as they are the ones that will get their machine potentially broken into when they go online. You can't warez with month old source code, all it's good for is exploiting others in multiplayer and allowing crackers to make better cracks. Customers need to know that there are cheaters out there right now with the full Half Life 2 source code, if this is true.

Sounds like it opens up window for hackers to take advantage of the game... to what extent I dont know, but there is (from what I understand) a multiplayer mode which might blow if people are exploiting the game there some way due to a leak of source like this.

Heres a thread from halflife2.net

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=10591&perpage=15&pagenumber=36

DDD
October 2nd, 2003, 03:17 PM
as if hl2 needed more cheaters out there.....this sucks big time. They have to delay it. I cant see how not. I know I would not buy it under the current circumstances....such a shame. Probably a disgruntled girlfriend or boyfriend is the leak.

awligon
October 2nd, 2003, 03:34 PM
These people are embiciles. There's probably not ten people there that could even spell and polymorphism and they're all measuring ****s. One guy actually wrote this...
#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
printf("Hello World!\n");
return 0;
}

That looks like some hardcore ctrl+C -> ctrl+V'ing to me. I guess he showed them how to code. What an l33t haxor. Idiots.

awligon
October 2nd, 2003, 03:39 PM
$5 usd says this guy couldn't compile a list of reasons to get out of bed.

Amazing.
Thats like, beyond ...everything.
The leak, and the files themselves, it's ****ing amazing.

andr.in
October 2nd, 2003, 03:44 PM
:*(

Digigamer
October 2nd, 2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by 3d-iva
Probably a disgruntled girlfriend or boyfriend is the leak.

I don't think there is a girlfriend in this world smart enough to do that.

Digigamer
October 2nd, 2003, 03:50 PM
and it is a big shame that it got leaked. I was looking forward to that game :*(. I bet valve is fricking furious.

thoriphes
October 2nd, 2003, 04:57 PM
That is a shame. Despite all the work Valve put into this highly anticipated game. I hope these people get found and are burned to the stake.

awligon
October 2nd, 2003, 05:19 PM
What people? Probably only one person leaked it, then thousands have the source now. 99% of those wouldn't know a program if it bit them in the face. I agree that it sucks for them, but everyone acts like it's the end of the world.

SureShot
October 2nd, 2003, 05:26 PM
awligon - all it takes is one guy to get the code who knows what they are doing to ruin it for others. He can create some kind of mod or patch or anything for download to give all these guys unfair advantages... it's not good at all. Any idiot can run a mod or patch if the instructions are clear enough.

Digigamer
October 2nd, 2003, 05:29 PM
I agree with sureshot. Sure hundreds of people will download the source and the chance that they accually do something with it is very small but someone will and that someone is all it takes.

awligon
October 2nd, 2003, 05:35 PM
I realize that. I'm not ignorant, simply stating that, yes, it sucks but it's not as bad as these kids are making it out to be. They've pushed back the release to april 15 of next year I believe and i'm sure that will give them plenty of time to clear up any obvious flaws that are easily exploitable. For the others, the people that are good enough would have found them anyways. I realize that they can take the code and create ways to cheat, and also that if indeed the entire engine that they've worked so hard on has been leaked, then they're out some money for that but it sounds like the third world war has broken out on those forums. it's pathetic. Also, i'm not standing underneath you, so please don't talk down to me.

senocular
October 2nd, 2003, 06:16 PM
I think there was some mention of blame being directed to ATI... possibley from something similar that happened with UT, not sure.

SureShot
October 2nd, 2003, 09:26 PM
woooooah there awligon - I know this is the internet and you cant here the way I am talking but in no way what so ever was I even CLOSE to "talking down to you" I would never do that.

You are absolutly not "ignorant" and no you arent "standing underneath me/us" I agree with you - that there is a lot being made outta this. I was just stating what I thought. Trying to have a conversation. I respect your thoughts on the subject as much as I do everyone else's - prolly more so than most as you know what you are talking about.

Please don't feel offended.

awligon
October 2nd, 2003, 10:41 PM
point taken, didn't mean to snap at you. Many people are just smartasses and you get up to your eyeballs every once in a while.

SureShot
October 3rd, 2003, 09:37 AM
Agreed my man, agreed.

StylingPaT
October 3rd, 2003, 11:33 AM
I hope it doesnt happen to UT2004 ;)

DigitalPimp
October 3rd, 2003, 02:58 PM
Here is the actual post from Valve on their forums.

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=10692

senocular
October 7th, 2003, 12:30 PM
BAH!!!!! :a: :a: :a:

http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/07/technology/vivendi_code.reut/index.htm

kirupa
October 7th, 2003, 12:41 PM
A few of the mods on neowin got their hands on screenshots of the game based on the leaked source code, and here are the images: http://www.neowin.net/staff/creamhackered/halflife2/

full thread: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=106246&st=0 :alien:

SureShot
October 7th, 2003, 01:12 PM
I read that too sen - crazy.

awligon
October 7th, 2003, 01:18 PM
well... when hl2 does come out, it's going to be the hot new banger. Will the cs mod come out right away?

senocular
October 7th, 2003, 01:32 PM
yeah I dont think this leak will really have that much of an effect on the imparct of the game. It'll still sell well. A delay, however, just might. The game had a great release date right in time for the holiday season. Who knows what christmas presents and new games might take away from the HL2 thunder? Doom III especially, currently stated for early 2004 (as far as I know) - will that not hurt HL2? I know not for fans, but for the average gamer it might be enough.

The delay, however, is not confirmed officially as Ive been reading... but also as I understood it, the source wasnt supposed to be enough to really put out all which the : http://www.neowin.net/forum guys have been throwing out. Those screens dont seem to fit the "small amount" of leaked source. Seems at least fairly substantial.

VisualAid
October 7th, 2003, 02:27 PM
errr Code leak =

1. Valve re-writing the source

why?

1. there is source code to do with customer-company credit cards which can and will be exploited.

2. does anyone want multiplayer bordem with 100's of aimbot's etc. which will be undetectable due to being written by the source.

3. hackers can make their own cd key's and multiplayer keys which would ruin everything.

4. Other companys will be disapointed with valve and hope they will fix the problem.

5. the list goes on

they also say only single player might be available to buy now ....

man this sux

eilsoe
October 7th, 2003, 04:20 PM
what did you say about the single player version being available? Where'd you read that?

awligon
October 7th, 2003, 04:35 PM
I heard they were going to release a beta or something for SP

VisualAid
October 7th, 2003, 04:55 PM
Valve

" After a small part of the code being leaked we may still be able to give the buyers a single player only verion of half life 2 and then later on a upgrade for multiplayer when the code has been re-written "

thats the quote

eilsoe
October 7th, 2003, 05:03 PM
kewl...

Marz
October 7th, 2003, 05:13 PM
Actually.. I think everyone is tkaing this a little bit out of proportion.. By the time the game actually final;ly gets released.. The original code will change so much that this version of code will be entirely useless...

The only thing they might have toi do is change a couple of variables around here and there to totally confuse the programs that are written to cheat with them..

Sure it's a big pain in the ***.. But I think everything will be allright..

The only thing I'm worried about is if Valve gets attacked by an internal worm that will detsroy it's central database.. Keyrecorders hidden inside of their computers through mail accounts show signs of instability and this can't be good at all..

awligon
October 7th, 2003, 05:18 PM
true, that was kind of my point. I'm sure it's a pain in the *** to go through thousands of lines of code changing var names, function params, and re-ordering args but it's easily do-able in less than 6 months. I'm pretty dissapointed. Those kids are freakin lamers.

thoriphes
October 7th, 2003, 05:57 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3172282.stm

Vivendi made this move as a result of the leaking of their code.

Congratulations, leakers, you've made a bunch of people really pissed off!!!

I hope you losers feel a lot more "l33t" now.

I was really looking forward to this game too. Valve made a good move though, this is definitely a lesson everyone should learn. This is also a good thing because now I can wait to get a super-fast video card and CPU without having to pay a super-high price.

eilsoe
October 7th, 2003, 05:58 PM
:m:*infinity

T-O
October 7th, 2003, 06:04 PM
bummer.

senocular
October 7th, 2003, 06:19 PM
re-post :sure:

thoriphes
October 7th, 2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by senocular
re-post :sure: :bad:

*merges*

senocular
October 7th, 2003, 07:37 PM
LOL

:love: