Flash Developers: better read this! (news on IE...)

[eyezberg]

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/
http://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/

[Phat7]

This Microsoft is just a bunch of ...'s (fill in the blank as desired)...

[Kitiara]

Oh for pity's sake... :a:

[SureShot]

For crying out loud....~!

[lava]

that' is fuc**ng annoying.

[T-O]

What the.....
Lucky i never use IE. Only netscape for me :thumb:

[senocular]

whether or not you use IE, you still have to 1) concern yourself with these issues when developing for the web and 2) worry about incompatibilities with non-ie browsers as other developers try to handle this.

Not only that, but its just supporting further enforcement of future insane patents.

[andr.in]

:*(

[kirupa]

sigh....that is quite unfortunate :( I hope the implementation of preventing those dialog boxes that Macromedia plans on releasing are good. I don't want to have to visit Flash sites where I am going to have to press OK to view every single Flash animation placed on that site.

EDIT: It'll be so much better if Flash can have the default built-in support that IMG tags have. It would be easier to insert, and there probably wouldn't be many issues with the embed tags.

[sintax321]

I wouldn't so much as blame Microsoft as i would blame Eolas or whoever they are. Them sueing of there stupid patent that shouldnt' have been granted in the first place is the casue of this.

[kirupa]

Yeah, Eulas is just out to make some easy money based on a ridiculous patent filing.

[senocular]

Its one guy. His intention is not only to make a crap load of money, but also to help even out the competition in the browser wars by targeting IE's monopoly

[reverendflash]

does he have a spiffy outfit?

Revhttp://aulman.com/rev.gif

[kirupa]

If he didn't, I'm sure he does now with a several hundred million ruling in his favor :sleep:

Btw sen, have you tried the MSDN Internet Explorer update? I am skeptical about downloading it now and having to suffer through endless dialog boxes...considering the macromedia update hasn't arrived yet. I'm wondering if the update can be easily uninstalled so that I can surf in defiance of the court rules for just a little bit longer :)

[reverendflash]

if he does, I hope it involves red booties and a cape!

Revhttp://aulman.com/rev.gif

[senocular]

Originally posted by kirupa
Btw sen, have you tried the MSDN Internet Explorer update? :)

Im not about to do that :beam:
Ill suffer through a lack of updates for a while

[SureShot]

Here Here!

[Phat7]

What was that about Eulas? :h:

[UNFLUX]

Originally posted by reverendflash
if he does, I hope it involves red booties and a cape!

Revhttp://aulman.com/rev.gif
i'd prefer little boe peep:flower:

[senocular]

Eolas is a company which holds a patent to how embeded material is handled in browsers (or at least filed the suit that concerns it). Recently there has been a lawsuit against MS because of this patent which MS lost - requiring that certain changes be made to IE to conform to the decisions of the ruling - which is what this is all about.

[Phat7]

Wait, wait. This Eolas didn't invent the <embed> tag, did it? I mean how did it get the patent in the first place? :h:

[Niann]

Check this out for some info. =)

http://rss.com.com/2100-1023_3-5079580.html?part=rss

Cheers!
-Niann

[Coppertop]

Argh! this is a load of crap! An argument should be sent to what ever company alerted the problem and tell them to go **** them selves! This is complete bull****!

I need to form a commity and make angry letters. http://www.sighost.us/members/Coppertop/pixelyscot-withshield.gif

[eyezberg]

First solutions online!
http://www.quasimondo.com/eolator.php

[Cynegenica]

Its one guy. His intention is not only to make a crap load of money, but also to help even out the competition in the browser wars by targeting IE's monopoly

hahahahhahaha

Sorry, best laugh i have had for a while. ;)

[Phat7]

I think 90% of that money was given to the judge who ruled in Eolas' favor, no other explanation for this bull$^*%

[Coppertop]

Well, I think the easiest way around the problem is just not to download v7...

[Black_Lightning]

Ugh what a load of crap, if he got 500 mil i think he can be pretty happy with what he got and let them use it.

[ahmed]

Oh my god.. they just won't stop :-\

[ article ] (http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article.php/3089281)

[Coppertop]

Ok, why don't we (the members of kirupa forum) start an angry letter right here to send of to eolas telling them (in essence) to release the charges and go f*ck themselves. OK:

-------------
Dear Eolas,

We, the members of www.kirupaforum.com and others (see attached petition) believe that your actions against microsoft's Internet Explorer Browser are completely unfounded and...


ok, I never was very good at persuasive writing.

[ahmed]

you never know, they'll ****in sue us! :P

[Freddythunder]

That sucks!! :m:
Stupid greedy people!! http://www.freddythunder.com/test/hair.gif

Coppertop: I agree, we should; but you know as well as I that whomever would read the letter would be like:
"Hmmm....bunches of money? or....make strangers happy?...nope - screw the strangers!!"

At least the solution is easy, jut a pain in the butt.


...bastards...

[Black_Lightning]

add --> ps: negative answer will result in excessive spamming ;)

[ahmed]

someone else seems to have worked a workaround:

http://www.mustardlab.com/developer/flash/standards/index.php
http://www.bit-101.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2236&start=45

[eyezberg]

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/articles/solution_summary.html

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/articles/devletter.html

http://www.powersdk.com/ted/2003_10_01_archive.html#106573304987119551

[kirupa]

I just realized that it will take me forever to update the animations on all the tutorials ;)

[ahmed]

lol, im sure jubba can write a php script that would read all the files and adjust them, shouldn't be too hard for him :thumb:

[eyezberg]

here's a publish template for all your new swf's..
http://www.peterelst.com/blog/index.php?m=200310#21

[kirupa]

Yikes - Eolas, in I am guessing a Godfather II-like fashion, trying to get money from google: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1212&e=7&u=/nm/20040109/wr_nm/tech_sco_google_dc&sid=95573503 :skull:

EDIT: Never mind. Wrong link for wrong article. Ignore me....it's for your own good this time :D

[ahmed]

Originally posted by kirupa
Yikes - Eolas, in I am guessing a Godfather II-like fashion, trying to get money from google: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1212&e=7&u=/nm/20040109/wr_nm/tech_sco_google_dc&sid=95573503 :skull: I've read about this whole SCO/linux issue, but, does Eolas = SCO?

[kirupa]

Gah! - You are right. I can't believe I did that. Editing out previous post. The kirupa AI has been all strange today. I bet "they" are trying to break in.

[Digigamer]

so should i start implementing one of the solutions to the flash animations on my site or do I not have to worry about it?

[CanadianGuy]

This is crazy! I barely have a grasp on how to get stuff to work the way I want now. I don't know javascript and that guide that macromedia published is a bunch of jargon to me.

Is this thing as big of a problem as I think it is? That judge is obviously an idiot!

[Mik3]

I've used it and that "Press ok to view the rest of the page" thing is ***

[CanadianGuy]

If I get the updated browser version just to see the changes can I unstall it and come back to this version?

[prstudio]

wasn't there an article on w3 schools about how the patent lawsuit was false and the technology was in fact pre-existant?

that's just unbelievable, users as it is are freaked out and afraid of the internet much less something that prompts them to accept something more...just to view a webpage...most people will probably think its some kind of adult content or something


ughhh

[eyezberg]

billmar, the new IE developper version doesn't install, just put in a folder and run the exe!
that's how you can run multiple versions of IE on the same comp'
(see thread in News somewhere).
tested.

[CanadianGuy]

Duh! Thanks eyezberg. I should've know this already.