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abichap
October 1st, 2003, 02:52 AM
Hi guys. Would like to need yr valuable comments on the website that i built.

http://www.uniseal.com.sg

how much would you guys charge if you were to build a similiar site?

flame me like u flamed nikini. be nasty don't be shy

Coppertop
October 1st, 2003, 08:17 PM
*snore* huh? oh, it finally finished loading. that took a while.

your site is very slow. you don't need to put a new flash thing on each page. you can have them all in one document. Use more vector stuff where you can to decrease load time and speed up the site.

aside from that it looks pretty good.

thediablo
October 1st, 2003, 08:18 PM
still loading...

still... gonna get a soda...

HUH, dont know why that took so long...

anyways it looks cool
and try what copper said :)

gmh526
October 1st, 2003, 08:30 PM
heh... i thought the ridiculous loading time was for the whole site! nope, for each page! thats a serious problem. how big is each page?? bigger than my whole site. try to avoid the entire swf being above 300kb. (at least thats what i try to avoid. some go bigger)

whyd u pick flash. all i saw, other than a preloader, were some rollovers, which may have been done more efficiently in html.

right now its paramount that you knock down the size. im on cable and i almost left. think about everyone else.

as for the price.......... make em pay per kilobyte and you could retire quite comfortably.

abichap
October 1st, 2003, 09:38 PM
i have no choice because the of the photos in each individual job reference as the client wanted CLEAR pictures. I had no choice. This was the best size after optimizing the pictures. Do you guys have any suggestions on how i can reduce the size of the whole site? sorry cooper, what do you mean by use more vector stuff?

Voodoo~Chile
October 2nd, 2003, 10:18 AM
you should definitely use ONE page, since you can load movies from flash... you don't need to make a whole new page for every section of content.
I understand that the client wants CLEAR pictures, but you can optimize them a hell lot more. Try to use JPG instead of GIF. Your pictures to me look like they are in gif format, which takes a whole lot of more space.
Any swf file bigger than 200 kb is WAY too much.
I have Broadband and it took forever to load. Each and every page!

Other than that, it looks cool.

T-O
October 2nd, 2003, 02:51 PM
The loading took way to long! I got a 700 kbits downstream and I took maybe 5 min. to load. *sign*
you should really check this (http://www.kirupa.com/developer/mx/full_site.htm)


I don't know but i looks like u used really big gif file's in your site. try JPG. That always nice a small.
I mean i don't get why i have to wait so long maybe it yer server.

AnonymousCaller
October 2nd, 2003, 05:03 PM
Wow, now I know why people are complaining about the load time. I've done a lot of image related loading and received most of my help from this forum & tuts.

First off, I really like the look. Nice branding, pretty clean.

Graphics: You have fat thumbnails. Your big pictures might have to be clear, but the thumbnails?! Use jpg compression. Play with Photoshop to find the best balance of file size and clarity. Make sure that your res is 72 or 96 ppi. Tell your client that they have to give a little on clarity if loading is still an issue. If no one wants to wait to see the pictures, no one will ever see them. Again, try to shrink them in Photoshop.

Now let's talk about efficiency. By loading different movies into an empty movie clip in the same Flash "frame, you will save yourself some time and heartache. Look into shared library, too.

For example, load the menu of the different types of roofs, then have the pictures (shrink them down!!!) load in an empty movie clip. Your picture movie could have the preloader, with the pictures of that category in three separate frames of the same movie. When the user clicks on the menu button loadMovie ("roof1.swf", "emptyMC") or something.

It's a good looking site, but from a Flash design point of view, you could make the parts more modular so that you aren't loading the same pixels on different pages. You shouldn't need more than 1 HTML page if you are using Flash efficiently, in my opion. As for you client.. if you knock it down so that the pictures look good but are huge, and they complain, remind them of the huge turn off of the load time. Check out the tutorials on loading MC's.

Good luck,
AC

Graeme
October 2nd, 2003, 05:21 PM
okay, so the biggest problem with this site is that there is a fundamental communications error (if that company is acutally worried about reaching a broad audience). And that error is the fact a): that it is entrely in flash and b): as everyone has mentioned, the loading times are horrible. I have a cable modem and it still took more that 2 mins to load. I can wait usually, but for some, more than 10 seconds is to long. So you have a problem right there, everyone who is still on a 56k modem is at a serious disadvantage. That leads onto another problem, not everyone has flash (and you would be surprised). So that roughly limits your audience to people with highspeed internet and flash users only. Getting a message across to a broad audience is making sure that the message is clear for everyone, not a select few.

Now onto the functionality problem. In terms of the flash construction, you could have done that whole thing in one flash file, yet I am finding that I have to load separate files, which add to the loading problem. The interface itself, is good, but here is the thing. The entire site could have been done just as easily (and more accesible) in HTML. And that's the bottom line, now I haven't heard your end of the story, so I trust that you made this site the way you did for good reason. But flash should never be used because it is flash and because it is there. Great flash is subtle flash. The design of your site is great, good colours, good layout, and pretty fair packageing. But the design is actually stinted by the poor loading times and the over use of flash. If you did this in just HTML, you would have a very nice site.

Cheers

abichap
October 3rd, 2003, 12:28 AM
thanks for all the valuable comments, guys. i really appreciate it. so the bottomline is : my loading speed suck. the reason why i decided to use 11 totally different flash files for my job reference page was that i don't know how to combine the different flash files into one. the fact is : i tried combining the different flash files into one and that result was a whopping 2mb in size though the required pics was alreadly optimized in photoshop.
How long did you guys took to load each page? my average loading time for each page was about 6 secs.
i would appreciate it if someone would tell me how to combine the whole thing into one flash movie. from my limited flash knowledge, is it related to this tutorial :

http://www.kirupa.com/developer/mx/full_site.htm?

if its not, can someone help me with tutorial part for this. Thanks!