MX 2004 NOW Available to BUY!!!!!!!

[Not2Sure]

It is out TODAY.

i have put an order in and am waiting now!!!!

:beam:

[.soulty]

just downloaded the trial!!! installing this baby right now. :)

[Not2Sure]

i was going to do that but it is not the full program for 30 days it has limited options:sigh:

[comicGeek]

WOW I like to buy but I think I'll wait a year before I do. And let people be more comfy with it so later I can just read your tutorials on AS2! :P

[blah-de-blah]

wow....i thought it'd be out sometime next year! But i don't really see much new with it :-\ Only AS 2.0, although i have no idea why it is better than 1.0 :-\

[RussianBeer]

I'l keep a lookout on Kazaa, so I know when not to download it, and warn other not to download it....

:P

[comicGeek]

Man don't say that here. People will brand you as a pirate! :-\

[.soulty]

Man this is way kool, one thing i have found, when i was testing (simulating download) a web site I'm creating at the moment for a client in 2004 pro, It preloaded the external movies as well !!!!! that would make me buy it for this feature alone, Woohoo!! :beam: :beam:

[andr.in]

preloaded them like they were a part of the main movie?

[.soulty]

when you run your main movie , which has external movie that load in , they are simulated as they are would be preloading on the internet, before it would just preload the main movie and then load the externals straight in, it actual simulates them as well!!!!!!!!!!

[andr.in]

wow now that's neato! ;)

anybody who doesn't know much about it take the tour:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/productinfo/features/

[kirupa]

I just downloaded and installed the trial version - seems like a really cool program. I liked that streaming media component they had ;)

[Illuminae]

Originally posted by RussianBeer
I'l keep a lookout on Kazaa, so I know when not to download it, and warn other not to download it....

:P

ROTFl, russian beer, you are a WICKED pissa

no worries though, we all know u are god, and god can do no wrong so he would NEVER EVER PIRATE FLASH


(unless he wanted to lose his kneecaps to my personal thug..)
(oh wait, you are my personal thug)
(crap)

anyway, i KNOW beer would never do that so no worries

[T-O]

I am going to stick with MX for now.

[T-O]

http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/productinfo/features/static_tour/text/#05
easy to add pixel fonts HEeeeeHA

[Kitiara]

*Raises Churchill purchase order for MX 2004* :beam:

[andr.in]

oh no... they're making it too easy!
There's a calendar component! noooooo
I was gonna code that!
They're making it too easy!!!!!!
:a:

[T-O]

yea newbie's can take over
i mean with 4.0 you know where you stood.
only 4 the pure elite..
but now...:crazy:

[SureShot]

Design is still the major aspect when it comes to flash and web creation.

Sure there are calander componants and easy time line effects and what have you - but if you make something that looks like crap with all these great new advancements than how much farther ahead are you really?

[andr.in]

now every noob can compete with me... :(
Nobody has any "special powers" anymore... (except for some certain ppl who know these magical 3d and that kinda scripting)...

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by Kitiara
*Raises Churchill purchase order for MX 2004* :beam:
*also tries to raise a Churchill purchase order for MX 2004* :whistle: :sure:

[T-O]

*Raises Churchill purchase order for Geek-Ware* :D:D:D:D

[awligon]

Originally posted by asphaltcowboy
*also tries to raise a Churchill purchase order for MX 2004* :whistle: :sure:

hahahhah, good luck buddy. I've got a feeling Kit may get away with it but twice? haha. :beam:

[DDD]

yeah man fireworks mx 04 is totally worth it and DW MX is too......Now the AS2 :( I was just learning AS1 BUt I am sure Flash mx 04 pro is the bomb.............FWMX 04 has dotted lines wooohooooo!!!!! and the workspace is awesome

[ahmed]

DW MX 2004 is just awesome.. I love how CSS-oriented is it.. it's excellent! :)

[awligon]

yeah, I was just looking at some of the stuff on macro .com. I'm tempted, but I'll probably hold off for a while. Who knows, September 19th is national talk like a pirate day. Argh!! :pirate:

[rvanet]

Well.. too bad.. I have no money. Guess I have to wait for the pirates. :beam:

[DDD]

:newsflash::

speaking of pirating is an easy way to get banned on this forum

[fester8542]

What about asphalts tounge in cheek butt pirating talk :q:

:P :crazy:

[Illuminae]

fester gets +1

[rvanet]

:x :x :x

:P

[lostinbeta]

sigh... i feared this day...

/me drops to level "outdated newbie"

:( :*(

[fester8542]

Originally posted by redGolgi
fester gets +1

Are these good points or bad ones?

[claudio]

Welcome to the newbies team lost ;)
:P :P

[rvanet]

Well.. ya know.. piracy is always there. It is very difficult to control. Or will it be? whew...

[lostinbeta]

Originally posted by rvanet
Well.. ya know.. piracy is always there. It is very difficult to control. Or will it be? whew...

piracy is for sissies who think they deserve everything without earning it.

it is probably one of the reasons there are a lot of bad flash sites out on the web. when you work hard to get the money to buy a program like this, you tend to make sure you learn it to the best of your ability, but if you download it and get it for free then you don't really care because you can always toss it aside at no loss to you.

that's just my humble little opinion

claudio: i guess thanks, but I worked hard to get out of this team only to get flung right back.... stupid rubber band effect :m:

[DDD]

I totally agree with you lost....however I do think some softwares are priced to high but you I just save up. Those bad flash sites make the good ones stand out more tho.

[lostinbeta]

Originally posted by 3d-iva
I totally agree with you lost....however I do think some softwares are priced to high but you I just save up. Those bad flash sites make the good ones stand out more tho.

Yeah, right now since I can't afford mx 2004 I think it is overpriced :P , but I do know it is worth every cent in the end so I am not as mad that it is expensive as I am upset that I can't afford it :pirate:

And yeah, those bad flash sites make good flash sites stand out, but at what cost :x

[claudio]

Originally posted by lostinbeta
claudio: i guess thanks, but I worked hard to get out of this team only to get flung right back.... stupid rubber band effect :m: Yea, i meant that in a sarcastic way. :beam: Oh god, I totally forgot about those usefull sarcasm tags
:P

Im against piracy, but agree with 3d-iva that some softwares are way too expensive.
But that has already been discussed here...

[rvanet]

Well that's your opinion and i highly respect that. And now here's mine:

yes that's right. but i do not think that bad flash sites exists for reasons that they are using pirated softwares. People are created unique, different from each other. They vary as to their taste or their likes.
:)

[T-O]

Isn't kirupa going to make a new tutorial section for 2004?

[fester8542]

Originally posted by 3d-iva
I totally agree with you lost....however I do think some softwares are priced to high but you I just save up. Those bad flash sites make the good ones stand out more tho.

They are overpriced because the sissies lost reffered to a minuite ago rob companies of thier products. The companies in turn inflate the price of thier product to make up for lost sales.

Cothing stores work the same way. They increase the price of thier merchandise to supliment the loss from theft.

[kirupa]

Originally posted by T-O
Isn't kirupa going to make a new tutorial section for 2004?
No - of course not. I mean, of course! I should be getting my copy shipped to the dorm in a few days, and I'll try my best to start writing a few tutorials on the basics of Flash MX, etc.

I haven't discussed with the mods yet, but I guess a new forum section, etc. will be created soon :)

Cheers!
Kirupa :cool:

[thoriphes]

i'm gonna look for a way to get my school to pay for it. already they've given me about every microsoft product (incl. Windows server 2003, all eds) for free. i'm thinking i might have to be in the digital art department or something in order to get it.

[Yeldarb]

i just placed my order for the version with flash mx professional :) im so excited!!!

[Not2Sure]

How many people had any idea it was today it came out? :sigh:

[DDD]

hey has anyone been able to install FW extension in FW MX 04? I still have regular MX and when i go to extension manager to install extensions on MX 04. Extension manager does not even see the program. I want to know if my extensions will work in 04 before I full out devote to it. MM said it will but I want to see it for myself.. As it stands extension manager does not even see it.

[senocular]

Its possible they will need to rewrite the extensions... possible but I would think and hope not. I know the Flash components had to be rewritten for MX2004. You might want to try to manually install them and see if they work.

[DDD]

oh there is a new extension manager...scratch my last post.

[Not2Sure]

maybe becuase you have the trial version?:sigh:

[DDD]

nope need the new extension manager...still not sure if the extensions work but I am about to test so ill let ya'll know

[DDD]

so far all of my extensions work. Hey Sen your 3d primitives is not working fully. Just and FYI But I still have reg MX too.

[T-O]

actionskript 2: whats that all about?

can annyone explane to me what the diffence?

[ahmed]

der u go

http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=33950

[senocular]

Originally posted by 3d-iva
so far all of my extensions work. Hey Sen your 3d primitives is not working fully. Just and FYI But I still have reg MX too.

that would figure :crazy:

[DDD]

alright I am impressed with DW MX 04. For one I did not have to re-create all my sites like I did when I upgraded from ultra dev. And the CSS and Cross Browser thing is going to save me hours of testing. color me impressed.

[ahmed]

I love how you can modify/create CSS through a WYSIWYG tool, great for the n00b's like me :blush:

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by ahmed
I love how you can modify/create CSS through a WYSIWYG tool, great for the n00b's like me :blush:

or the lazy like me...

:)

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

[DDD]

css code hints are sweet to!...no more topstyle for me.

[Not2Sure]

lol. when i got Dreamweaver MX it did not notice for 3 weeks there was a WYSIWYG aspect of the software....:h:

[Yeldarb]

i thought flash mx 2004 was supposed to improve the calculation time, i'd hate to see a site with several of these timeline effects instead of just one... although it does look pretty cool... www.barbdwyer.com/flash7.swf is the test that i just made that im referring to, uses 100% cpu

[senocular]

Improvements yes. That doesnt mean it cant be pushed to limits, which that swf certainly does.

[RussianBeer]

Hey,

For all the Academic Hunneys out there go to : www.academicsuperstore.com

Cheapzorz!

[ahmed]

SRP: $799.00
Our Price: $189.95

how does that work? :trout:

[Not2Sure]

student price

you can NOT use it for commerical use:sure:

[ahmed]

I know, but it can't be THAT cheap..


[edit]

or can it?

[Yeldarb]

yeah, that's where i bought it from about 2 hours ago

[RussianBeer]

Guys! Get ready fo' this!!

I acctualy BOUGHT 2004!!!!

I know its scary, but I just bought it!!

[DDD]

I think you are not morally supposed to but who would buy professional grade software and not try to gain from it. Even tho it is wrong

[RussianBeer]

Not morraly supposed to what?

On the not of pirate software, I think its okay if you are goin to learn it. Makes perfect sence. thats why Microsoft gives away all of the software for like 40$ and you can get anything at my uni.

[DDD]

yeah but it is not intended for professional to use like in their studios. I must admit I have been guilty of that one in the past

[RussianBeer]

Are you talking about thet academic software or the pirated one? Well, I guess applies to both, But academic is helllaaa cheap!

And hey, if I make money with Studios and get out of college alive with sofware, chances are I will stick to Macromedia , rigght?

[Not2Sure]

i was looking at it and i got the code for a site that would take HOURS to make in 3 seconds.

and it looks alot like the one i am working on, i have to change quite a bit but it is a CSS site and not tables.

IT IS GREAT.

[thediablo]

i wanna try it :)

[Yeldarb]

i found another feature if anyone cares...
if you hold alt while draging a circle, it makes the point you pressed the center of the circle (like in photoshop)

[comicGeek]

MX 2004:

BAH anybody can do scripting. It's in motion graphics where you can see real geniuses! :trout:

... actually I'm just pissed that I spend alot of time learning something and already on the advanced stages and now i have to start all over again... :(

[comicGeek]

Originally posted by RussianBeer
Guys! Get ready fo' this!!

I acctualy BOUGHT 2004!!!!

I know its scary, but I just bought it!!
That's not a problem for you cause your god and all and Gina loves you! :P

[RussianBeer]

Exacly ;)

:p: :p: :p:

[comicGeek]

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^^^^^^^^ curses ^^^^^^^^^^ grrr ^^^^^^

[RussianBeer]

We dont understand why ye curses the skys my son!

Tell me o' geek of comics! So we and my worshiper :p: RedGolgi :p: who :love: me will ponder on it.... and all will be well!

[comicGeek]

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^^^^^^^^ curses ^^^^^^^^^^ grrr ^^^^^^

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^^^^^^^^ curses ^^^^^^^^^^ grrr ^^^^^^

twice this time thank you very much!

[RussianBeer]

Tell me my child! So we can help ye understand and solve it...
















Incase anyone dosent know: gina :love: me

:p:

[comicGeek]

:x

[RussianBeer]

What my son..?

[comicGeek]

WTFing ever

[RussianBeer]

My son, why do ye hold a grunge against me?

[comicGeek]

Why do you keep saying my son! You're not my f*cking father! :m:

[RussianBeer]

Hey your the one that called me god,
Whats ur problem all of a sudden?

[Illuminae]

guys.. relax... stop fighting

[lostinbeta]

Chill out guys, no need to get hot-headed over such an issue :)

[comicGeek]

=) oh I'm sorry god I forgot! =)

[RussianBeer]

But I got a worshipper: RedGolgi :p:

:beam:

:love:

[DDD]

spam

[RussianBeer]

no, and yes...


(it is the random forum)

[comicGeek]

Here are the features I noticed to be nice and semi-nice about Flash MX Pro 2004! :)


Very nice title bar color!
Word Wrap in actions panel
Integrated Help
Alias Text (not so nice output! I'm particularly glad my pixel fonts look way better still! :))
Polystar Tool
Tabbed Windows
Organize Projects
Define Sites like in DWMX
Behaviours (select a behaviour copy and modify it)
Simulate Download (even for loaded SWFs)
Timeline Effects (but I don't think it's great)
Javascript Integration
CSS
A wide selection of Components
New Character Option (I don't really like the free selection process)
Publish Settings Profiles

I uninstalled directly the trial cause it ate alot of disk space. I'm trying Dreamweaver MX 2004 next! :)

[senocular]

what about the bad things? I despise the fact that the interface is more crammed :a: The properties bar alone is about 20% larger in MX 2004. That combined with document tabs and that spacing between the work area and the panels just makes things more cramped! Not everyone is running at 1600 x 1200 resolution or has the pleasure of 2 monitors :love: I remember the space issue being a big thing with MX 1.0, yet I dont think I have heard any complaints about it in MX 2004 :-\

...granted, you can collapse the panels :P but still (you could also hide them in MX with tab)

...ok another thing against my argument is that the output window is now a panel, thats plain unadulterated joy

... and the library when opened appears embedded in the rightmost panels :love:

[comicGeek]

Not everyone is running at 1600 x 1200 resolution or has the pleasure of 2 monitors I remember the space issue being a big thing with MX 1.0, yet I dont think I have heard any complaints about it in MX 2004

I am no longer bothered by these things since I close all panels and just use short cuts to open the ones I need! :)

Anyway here's the main things I like in Dreamweaver MX 2004:


Reads and re-creates your DWMX defined sites (this is cool since it saves you the trouble of re-creating them yourself!)
Create from samples
Tabbed Windows


:)

[Yeldarb]

Originally posted by senocular
I despise the fact that the interface is more crammed :a: The properties bar alone is about 20% larger in MX 2004. That combined with document tabs and that spacing between the work area and the panels just makes things more cramped! Not everyone is running at 1600 x 1200 resolution

i'm running 1600 x 1200 and it's still cramped :(
and i dont like how the maximize and minimize for the window don't go up by the big ones anymore, the extra title bar takes up EVEN MORE space.

[comicGeek]

I suggest using closing all panels and using the keyboard shortcuts to open panels that you need and when you need them only. It can guarantee at least 2x faster design process. :thumb: Me I use this techniqe even though here in the office we use two 17" monitors!