Lawsuits begin, and the RIAA sues a 12 yr. old girl.

[replode]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kr/20030909/lo_krnewyork/suedforasong

i dont know what you guys think, but thats a little out of hand. but she probably had over 1000 songs.

I wonder what they plan to do with the billions of dollars they expect to collect from lawsuits.



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[Maxtr0sity]

Pathetic.

[nobody]

Woo pickin on 12 year old girls. They're badass now.

[Maxtr0sity]

*COUGH child melisters COUGH*

[nobody]

*cough*molesters*cough* *cough*getadictionary*cough*
=)

edit to fix smilie

[thoriphes]

The RIAA honestly knows no limits to their actions. I can't believe they're going after minors this young. I am terribly appauled by this.

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by thoriphés
The RIAA honestly knows no limits to their actions. I can't believe they're going after minors this young. I am terribly appauled by this. aye, it's pretty disgusting.. but it'll work.. if they show that no one is 'safe'.. pretty smart move on their part, even if it is brutal and somewhat unfair..

[Maxtr0sity]

Originally posted by *twitch*
*cough*molestors*cough* *cough*getadictionary*cough*
:beam:

*COUGH*MOLESTERS*COUGH*
*COUGH*YOUGETADICTIONARY*COUGH*

Whos ur daddy now eh?

:P

[Daedelus]

this whole lawsuit thing is disgusting... the RIAA is using scare tactics to attempt to gain advantage in an arena they hold no control over.

record labels seem to think that sales have slumped since music started being traded... what they don't realize is that it's cause the music these days sucks!

[gr8jay]

Its rediculous.

Each person sued yesterday could be liable for fines up to $150,000 for each poached track
Now like they say if each track downloaded can cost the kid $150,000 wonder how she will pay it up if she really had to...i really doubt if suing ppl for such an amount is the solution for stopping piracy...

[Not2Sure]

That is out of control.

Lucky for me it only applies to America.... justice:trout:

[Jasninder]

weird, they say love is blind..........

never knew justice was blind too :(
and in this case it's stupid !!!

[comicGeek]

They think they're loosing profits due to file sharing.... It's precisely the opposite... there products are much more advertised due to file sharing and has since increased their sales! (as reported awhile ago!)

[mlk]

yeah but in this way they get double the profits...

how stupid is it to sue users and not kazaa itself? They are the real perpetrators of the internet 'misdemeanor' after all

[comicGeek]

nonono you're wrong there man! I don't believe KaZaa or iMesh or any file sharing programs ad systems out there had the it's main intention to misdemean! Also the RIAA cannot touch them so they go after the ones they can grab hold to!

[prstudio]

justice is blind, the statue representing it has a blindfold on with the "scales of justice"

being she is a minor, they will go after the parents for the $$ amount

oh and this amnesty RIAA is talking about is just to substantiate their process...i mean if they can con- i mean convince 300,000 people to volunteer for this amnesty, then all they have to say when questioned about their methods is

"well we have these 300,000 people here who openly admitted it, thats staggering alone much less who didn't fess up"

and then everything will be justified eh?

this is quite the hunt they are launching; and its unconstitutional

stealing is illegal
but so is what they are doing

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by mlkdesign
how stupid is it to sue users and not kazaa itself? They are the real perpetrators of the internet 'misdemeanor' after all because Kazaa just provide the means for downloading, it doesnt mean they endorse or condone the stealing of music :)

should software companies sue CD-RW manufacturers?
Originally posted by comicGeek
They think they're loosing profits due to file sharing.... It's precisely the opposite... there products are much more advertised due to file sharing and has since increased their sales! (as reported awhile ago!) actually, (in the UK anyway) single sales are down, and album sales are up - but they're making less profit (due to price cuts and poor single sales i guess). Admittedly, I never buy singles anyway, only albums, and I buy more albums as a result of downloading songs. But there must be millions people that used to buy singles, but now don't as a result of P2P.


Either way, with stories like this, I can't see that this tactic won't work.. Hopefully it won't start in the UK any time soon :)

[Kitiara]

Front page of todays Metro (or a few pages in) - the 12 year old girl is English. :sigh:

I too only ever buy albums, but I'm greatly influenced by the music I get online. I heard a few tracks from Skin's new album for example, liked them, then ordered the CD from Amazon. :)

[comicGeek]

I think I can guess where all this is going and that is online. Sooner or later we can't anymore buy CDS, DVDS, VCDs or the like and collect them (like I do). They will be sold online. There is already a unit for doing this the iEHip! You buy movies or music from them using your account card. After selecting the music or video you want to buy you will download it to your iEHip and use your card again to listen or watch to your downloaded music or video. You can watch or listen to your download for only one year afterwards you'll be asked to pay for it again. <-- This sucks big time!

[T-O]

I mean there not alowed to scan your pc with out permission. Are they?
She should sue them.

[Niann]

They can simply load up Kazaa and she what she was offering for download. After that they trace the IP to the user, and there they have everything they need. There are a slew of laws that are being debated about this now. It will be interesting to see how this shapes up.

Cheers!
-Niann

[Black_Lightning]

Sigh, they should look where the real problem is.... they sell less cd's because the prices have gone up.... where a cd was 15 euro's (commercial pop cd's) a few years ago you easilly pay 17 to 21 euro's now.

personally i don't buy any cd over 16 euro's and even then it's rare if i should buy one of euro's....So what i do is buy the cd's when they are on sale, or the really old ones.

Also, back in the time before cd-r's everybody just got everything on tape from a mate or something. Same thing if you ask me.

[fester8542]

Originally posted by asphaltcowboy

should software companies sue CD-RW manufacturers?



Its funny you mention that dude. Did you know that for every CD-RW burner that is made, the price includes a $2 surcharge that is directly funnled back to the RIAA?

How sick is that.

[Black_Lightning]

Originally posted by fester8542
Its funny you mention that dude. Did you know that for every CD-RW burner that is made, the price includes a $2 surcharge that is directly funnled back to the RIAA?

How sick is that.

you say sick?....

sicker:

they are trying to get a law that states that they should get a percentage on all media that can store copied music.... which means not only cd-r's andcd-rw's but also HARD disks.

[Not2Sure]

Originally posted by Kitiara

I too only ever buy albums, but I'm greatly influenced by the music I get online. I heard a few tracks from Skin's new album for example, liked them, then ordered the CD from Amazon. :)

that is so true Kit.

before 50 cent signed to Shady/Aftermath i download 2 songs and then got his album.

[prstudio]

i dont think so much hd scanning is done in the initial phase

its all server logs, then once they have you they scan,

tape copying back in the day was just as illegal, but not so easy to do

[Not2Sure]

with the good comes the bad.


humans build a great Communication tool to connect the world and what is it used for..... **** and downloads

[thoriphes]

Originally posted by Black_Lightning
you say sick?....

sicker:

they are trying to get a law that states that they should get a percentage on all media that can store copied music.... which means not only cd-r's andcd-rw's but also HARD disks. so if they succeed in stopping piracy, they'll get no money.

i hate the RIAA so much.

[Not2Sure]

yeah,

they have to learn they can not control every thing

[telekinesis]

I want to make an Anti-RIAA site, you know one with a collection of death threats and such. Or manipulated pictures of the company CEO's. . . .

[comicGeek]

Originally posted by telekinesis
I want to make an Anti-RIAA site, you know one with a collection of death threats and such. Or manipulated pictures of the company CEO's. . . .

LOL

Let's get started! :thumb:

[David]

For a start, why bother with MP3's, I'm yet to hear an MP3 that is of worthy quality...

I noticed people in the MX2004 thread saying that the reason software is so expensive is because of pirating, and this is the reason Music is getting so expensive as well.

Explain the difference between pirating software and music. If your using pirated software or pirated music and you get caught you pay the penalty, whatever that may be.

My opinion of course.. Dave

[Black_Lightning]

Yes, well it's never nice for the companies that make the music. But the way i look at it... A real fan of a group will always get the album later on. (alright there are some diehards that don't buy albums)... what the downloading does is sift out the good and the bad albums.

Before all this when you wanted to buy an album you had to look if someone in you know had it, or else take the risk it could suck. So if it's a mediocre or less album it won't really sell. Whereas in olden days they could get somewhat of a sale because ppl didn't hear it first. Same with games.

Good stuff always sells. Look at blizzard's games. the two diablo series, warcraft, all sold millions of copys.

Anyway i can accept the fact that they want to protect their source of income. But something is wrong with their system. There is the charge on cd's, all cd's so also the ones that are used to make backups etc. So you pay for the fact that the cd could be used for storing illegal data. But still it's illegal and you get sued when you download. A little bit to much taking advantage from 2 sides imo.