Freelancers

[fatmammal]

I NEED FREELANCERS!

PLEASE SEND YOUR PORTFOLIO WORK AND A WAY TO CONTACT YOU

joel@nation6.com

[T-O]

maybe stating why you need them would be handy?

site? movie? interface? graphic design?

[fatmammal]

everything

Flash & HTML web design
Enhanced CDs
E-cards
Album Artwork
Clothing Design
Advertisements
Posters
Logos
Buttons
Stickers
PHP

most importantly flash and html design

[asphaltcowboy]

How much are we getting paid?

What's the project?

I seem to remember someone else coming onto the forum with a random, vague project and it not ending to well *cough* reebok *cough* :thumb:

[Jasninder]

yea i remember that one too ashphalt, if i m not mistaken u r talkin about tht dude from surry b.c wich i thot was in uk, then usa and finally somoene corrected me that surry b.c is in canada :P hehehe

[kirupa]

Fat - you'll need to provide more information before most members here will show more interest in your offer.

[Kitiara]

Another person who needs to look up the definition of 'vague'... ;)

A few more details might be nice. :) Most people are happy to provide portfolios, but they need a little more in the way of information before they do so. :)

[asphaltcowboy]

"I need a volunteer!" ... ;)

[Jasninder]

Originally posted by Kitiara
A few more details might be nice. :)

yea if u r from surry, atleast tell us which one :P

[fatmammal]

ok im so surprised at how arrogant everyone is. nevermind sorry for asking...

[Kitiara]

Originally posted by fatmammal
ok im so surprised at how arrogant everyone is. nevermind sorry for asking... Arrogant?

I don't think it's arrogant to ask for more information before sending off contact details and a portfolio to someone you've never met / spoken to before. Personally, I like to know who I'm dealing with before I do that, what they're offering, and whether or not they're on the level.

Would you place a job advert on TotalJobs or Monster that just said "I want freelancers" and nothing else? And how many replies do you think you'd get?

[Yates]

...
ok im so surprised at how arrogant everyone is. nevermind sorry for asking...



You're right, fatmammal. I cannot believe how arrogant everyone is for not lavishing you with interest in your generous business opportunity.




fatmammal:

I NEED FREELANCERS!

PLEASE SEND YOU PORTFOLIO WORK AND A WAY TO CONTACT YOU



Seriously folks, look at the presentation. Look at the name! Firstly, the guy calls himself "fatmammal." Descriptive, factual-- this is obviously the name of a no-nonsense project-oriented leader, and certainly not of a porkchop. Secondly, notice the passion, the entrepreneurial spirit symbolized in ALL CAPS, no punctuation, and total lack of details. Truly, the work of a master. This offer just screams IM A PROFESSIONAL WITH LOTS OF MONEY AND EXPERIENCE LEADING A TEAM TO COMPLETE PROJECTS! GRAMER SUXX0R5!

So let me conclude that I'm ashamed to be associated with such pompous individuals here at kirupa.com who refuse to shift their paradigms to a new dimension and think out of the box. I apologize most sincerely for the total lack of respect my fellow Kirupians have shown you, fatmammal.

[Yeldarb]

hopefully he'll understand even though there are no sarcasm tags...

[Yates]

Heh, oh yah, I forgot those. Oh well, I think I made it clear enough

[fatmammal]

ok i understand
can someone just delete..whole posting?

[fez]

i want 300 dollars.

[Yeldarb]

if you give more details, i may take you up on the offer, it depends on if it's within my capabilities, and what it's paying

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by fatmammal
ok i understand
can someone just delete..whole posting?

no, this thread should stay, and be a beacon to those who wish to do the same thing.

If someone wants to hire some help, then they should approach it like a professional, not just hoping you will be inundated with offers of portfolios.

Even with my best client, an ISP, he has to tell me what the gig is about before I agree to take it on. Just common sense is all.

So, no, I am not going to delete this thread. And you shouldn't take this so personally, you were the one who was the master of the vague...

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[asphaltcowboy]

oh sh*t - everything's gone **** up since I was last here.. what did I tell you right at the very start fatmammal? In case you can't remember:
Originally posted by asphaltcowboy
I seem to remember someone else coming onto the forum with a random, vague project and it not ending to well *cough* reebok *cough* funny how the same thing is happening all over again.. and you can't say I didn't warn you... but noooooooooo.. you had to go and get all arsey about it.. sheeesh :sure:

EDIT: re-reading it.. I've just realised how ridiculous it is - you don't even say whether it's gonna be art.. or flash.. or web programming, or.. anything.. what programs will we need? how long will it take?

If you want yet another example of how far vague posting gets you, you can read all about it here: http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33040 :thumb:

[fez]

way to go asphalt, thats an extra................300 dollars for you too

[asphaltcowboy]

cheers babeh ;)

[fez]

**** brits, why cant you just use dollars like everyone else? and the metric system is soooo overrated. ;)

[morse]

:beam:

[fatmammal]

ok fine make an example of me. the thing that blows is that i came here wanting to offer you guys potential very exciting projects and i have had nothing but a hassle... so **** it.. your loss... excuse me for being brief... i figured you guys would be excited to show your work.. but your actually more excited to be bickering with me in a chat FORUM!! ?!? go figure this my last post thanks for time

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by fatmammal
ok fine make an example of me. the thing that blows is that i came here wanting to offer you guys potential very exciting projects and i have had nothing but a hassle... so **** it.. your loss... excuse me for being brief... i figured you guys would be excited to show your work.. but your actually more excited to be bickering with me in a chat FORUM!! ?!? go figure this my last post thanks for time WHAT SODDING PROJECT?!

*sigh* I think reebok said something similar...
(though he overstepped the mark and got booted...)

apparently history does repeat itself :sure:

[Yeldarb]

how is it our loss? you've been completely stubborn. there is NO ONE who will commit to something that they don't even know about... good luck finding someone who will... how is it our fault that you don't grasp the concept of adjectives...

[asphaltcowboy]

it's my concert arena buddy, Yeldarb! :love:

[Coppertop]

So, the lesson to all is: Give detail, be polite - or else you will find many a boot up your arse.

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by Coppertop
So, the lesson to all is: Give detail, be polite - or else you will find many a boot up your arse. No, the lesson is: Give detail, be polite - or else you will get a beautiful picture of a 'plain concert arena' (http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=298634) <-- :thumb:

Whippersnapper: and rightly so ;)

[Yeldarb]

whats the problem with that?

[Coppertop]

Hmm, hes gone....

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by Yeldarb
whats the problem with that? My thoughts exactly, I'd love to receive a beautiful picture of a 'plain concert hall' (hint: my birthday's coming up soon ;))

[Coppertop]

Originally posted by asphaltcowboy
My thoughts exactly, I'd love to receive a beautiful picture of a 'plain concert hall' (hint: my birthday's coming up soon ;))

5 days after mine!

Alright, concert arena for you!

[Yates]

It was probably an Am-way related thing. I "had" a friend who got into that crap. It was sad.

[Yeldarb]

what's am-way?

[fez]

so nobody gets 300 dollars?
well thanks a LOT guys...
geez.

[abzoid]

I just checked the portfolio on his web site, via his profile page. He's right, he does need help. :P

[mlk]

hey Fatmammal, I hope you're not too pissed at us, but it's happened already and a member was banned. Stick around and check people's http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/images/home_website.gif (http://www.asphaltdesign.co.uk/) website under their footer - if there's someone you find interesting then ask him.

and again don't be pissed and stick around, we're usually a bunch of nice people =)

[T-O]

I think this is called for

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by mlkdesign
and again don't be pissed and stick around, we're usually a bunch of nice people =) what do you mean? I was perfectly nice the first 5 times we told him that he needed to give more information ;)

[Yeldarb]

Originally posted by abzoid
I just checked the portfolio on his web site, via his profile page. He's right, he does need help. :P
whats wrong with it? it didn't look that bad to me...

[mlk]

nope, just the CSS styles for the scrollers are dreadful, that's all =)

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by abzoid
I just checked the portfolio on his web site, via his profile page. He's right, he does need help. :P

did you like the big enter extranet button that takes up 20% of his homepage, and goes to a "coming soon" static page?

You are correct, Pranalabs needs help.

;)

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[kirupa]

Just wondering, this site seems familiar for it was a SOTW contender a while ago :run:

[reverendflash]

that's what I thought as well...

and hasn't changed as far as I can tell...

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[Kitiara]

Originally posted by kirupa
Just wondering, this site seems familiar for it was a SOTW contender a while ago :run: That's correct, it was. And it didn't win. :sure:

[turkey]

It's not that bad... It's a little over the line to start bashing his site for this.

[sintax321]

This is like the 3rd or 4th time this has happend. Maybe we should have a Job forum with a good set of rules on how to properly post.

Its kind of sad realy casue these could lead to jobs or contracts if things where posted corectly.

[asphaltcowboy]

well, I did explain to poor old fatmammal right at the start of this thread, that he needs to give more info. of course, he chose to get arsey instead of just giving at bit more information.. in fact... lots of us told him.. :sure:

yeah, not a bad idea though

[Jubba]

yeah that could possibly be a good idea... www.tutorialforums.com has something similar... :sigh:

[Kitiara]

So does DeviantArt. There's a job forum there...

Though perhaps it would be a better idea to have some kind of form for people to fill mi rather than just letting them post any old vague rubbush. Required fields - Site, Projects, Pay... ;)

[sintax321]

Originally posted by asphaltcowboy
well, I did explain to poor old fatmammal right at the start of this thread, that he needs to give more info. of course, he chose to get arsey instead of just giving at bit more information.. in fact... lots of us told him.. :sure:

yeah, not a bad idea though
Exactly my point.

This way all some one would have to do is say refer to the rules. People might get less defensive this way.

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by sintax321
Exactly my point.

This way all some one would have to do is say refer to the rules. People might get less defensive this way. I guess so.. I like Kit's idea of a form though - I reckon that'd work :)

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by asphaltcowboy
I guess so.. I like Kit's idea of a form though - I reckon that'd work :)

said with lips firmly planted on supervisor's butt...

:beam:

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[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by reverendflash
said with lips firmly planted on supervisor's butt...

:beam: you betcha ;)

:beam: