Mozilla FireBird

[mdipi]

w00t i am now browsing with FireBird. Its kinda like a striped down Mozilla build, so its way faster. I havent been going this fast on a browser since i was on my mac like 2 seconds ago with Safari (fastest browser i have ever used, eat that :P).

i recomend trying it!

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/

-Mike :p:

[reverendflash]

been using it for a while...

great browser!

nothing but a browser...

Thunderbird email is pretty cool as well...

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[NaliWarCow]

The negatives I found in firebird and why I will never use it:

You can't click the address bar and then highlight certain parts of it for some reason. A wierd bug.

My scoll button does not work.

Many of the flash sites I went to for some reason couldn't detect that I had flash installed on it, so they'd send me to their "you don't have flash, download it" page.

By using it I'm not supporting Bill Gates.

[reverendflash]

and we appreciate you living up to your lameoid-ness...

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[RelandR]

Nali::
you may have a corrupted download of it... (?)

all of the above are typically untrue of firebird

...I know the drive I am currently on has crash problems with mozillaStuff but the other drive does not.. and I've figured it is more likely due to needing a reinstall

[mdipi]

Well i just selected what i wanted on the address bar. my scroll button works fine. now the flash thing was a bit tricky to get but i got it, you just have to install it into the pluggins folder. yay for rev! i havent tryed thunder bird but i will soon, i really love htis thing!

[RelandR]

Originally posted by reverendflash
and we appreciate you living up to your lameoid-ness...

HAHA ....

..... BillGates...:sure:

Firebird is the future and NON M$ is too

...VivaLaOpenSource.......

[NaliWarCow]

I know dipi. I dl'ed it and put it in the plugins folder and I could come onto the forums and see footers and stuff. But some people's sites (points finger at kirupa) still redirected me to their "you don't have flash" pages.

WDE rev :P.

[senocular]

Firebird is cool but it has problems with either my mouse wheel or mouseIMP so therefore it becomes unusable to me. Its currently my secondary browser

[mdipi]

how does your mouse wheel not work?! click on the page and scroll...

[nobody]

I just downloaded it and it's so fast. Some stuff is kinda funky, but that's ok. It's great. =)

[reverendflash]

there are a few idiots/iceholes who ignore the fact that there are other browsers out there than IE...

other than that, I love the browser...

I have uninstalled AvantBrowser (sorry Jubba)... much quicker with Firebird...

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[Coppertop]

I will stay with IE. Thats where I am comfortable *reclines*

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by Coppertop
I will stay with IE. Thats where I am comfortable *reclines*

and that is why IE is so popular... it is the one that comes installed on the machine...

:evil:

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[NaliWarCow]

Rev, I'll use firebird as soon as they fix those 3 things I mentioned. I liked the tabbed browsing thing, and the fastness. But I can't browse without my stuff like the mouse wheel and flash and the click and drag.

But I'm guessing that the next IE will have tabbed browsing and will be faster, so i'll prob. end up sticking with it :P.

But at least I've tried out about 3 extra browsers than IE. Just didn't like them.

[reverendflash]

I just don't understand...

my mouse wheel works... as a matter of fact, when you click a link with the center wheel, it opens in a new tab...

I can also select anything in the addy window...

hmmmm...

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[reverendflash]

Mike:

which skin are you using?

I'm using Phoenety Flame...

way cool.

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[NaliWarCow]

Ok, I'm using firebird right now, and here are the problems just on this page:

1). the reply box is about 1/2 the size it should be.

2). I can scroll with my mouse, but I can't hold in the scroll button and then go up and down.

3). I can't see the image you posted rev.

4). check message length messed up the reply box.

5). The reply box gets horizontal scroll bars instead of just forcing long words to split in half and go to next line.

6). I can't see footers.

So just cause you like this more doesn't make it better rev.

GO MR. GATES.

[nobody]

The only problem with mine is the reply box size man, Are you sure you're using version 0.6.1? You need the latest stable build most likely.

[reverendflash]

I didn't say it was better, did I?

I'm not trying to convert you Nali...

peace Bro!

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[RelandR]

Nali's Pewter has a Gates complex

[andr.in]

downloading... My IE sis screwed up right now so... either mozilla.. or reinstall Win XP!

[lostinbeta]

Question: Is firebird just a toned down Mozilla? Or is it just another browser to code for cross browser?

[reverendflash]

it is mozilla. but only mozilla. no email. no aol schidt. no im schidt... just a mozilla browser that is easy to skin (so I'm told)...

I really haven't found much (other than a few egotistical portfolio sites, which if they want to exclude visitors, cool) that doesn't work just the same, or work faster than IE.

I like the way the tabs work in this version better than Avant, and Mozilla/NS7.

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[lostinbeta]

I am using it right now, I kinda like it, I will give it a whirl for a few days and see if I like it better than Mozilla.... if so I will uninstall mozilla and stick with Firebird.

[reverendflash]

don't get me wrong... I haven't uninstalled Mozilla, yet...

I'm not 100% sold on it yet, but I'm liking it so far...

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[lostinbeta]

Yeah I just don't like having a billion browsers installed if I am not going to be using them all. If I like Firebird more I will uninstall mozilla since I very rarely every use either of them anyway (usually just for cross browser testing purposes or if my IE is acting up)

[abzoid]

I installed it and used it for about a day, but it kept locking up my machine so I've gone back to Mozilla until they get a more stable build finished. The only part of Mozilla I use is the browser, so if they can get FireBird stable on all platforms then it sounds like just the ticket for me too.

[David]

Ive been using it for a bit and like it as well. It's a little bit buggy but most sites ive been to that it messed up were because their css does not validate.
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator-uri.html

I'll keep using it.

Heaps of info in the forum. http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php?c=4

Dave.

[senocular]

Originally posted by mdipi.com
how does your mouse wheel not work?! click on the page and scroll...

Its not my scroll wheel, its a 3 button mouse w/o a wheel, but, like Nali's #2 holding down the middle button will give the arrow scrolling thingamajigger (as with many wheels), well in IE, but not mozilla. On top of that mouseIMP doesnt work which is what I always use to scroll so without that I just cant use it. (I dont like wheels that much anyway - their ok for small scrolling but anything greater than a page and theyre worthless)

[mdipi]

ok sen i see what you mean now...

rev.

there are tabs? shesh i dont see em...can you show me where they are lol...i know i got them in mozilla but not here in FireBird.

edit: i am using the defalt skin, i got it late last night so didnt have much 'play' time with it :thumb:

edit: ok rev so i found out how to make a new tab and all, but here is my problem now...when i want it to open in a new tab it wont, i have to go to File|New Tab. which to me isnt that good of tabbing, unless there is a way to do that, thats one thing that i loved about avant. but i still love this :love: where did you get your skins? i know how to change them just not where to get them :thumb:

[SureShot]

I love firebird, I have been using it almost since it came out. The only problems that I have with it are the java applets - I always try and download the update for it when I am directed to the page but it never gives me an option for mozilla or netscape, only IE - kind of a piss off really.

I love the tabbed browsing, my mouse scrolls just fine with it, the scroll button is great because when you click in on a link you get the new page opened in a new tab - very handy. It's so fast and takes up much less space.

I love it! IT's my default browser. I also like the control you have over the passwords and such.

[mdipi]

when i click on a link it spawns a new window :scream: grr how can i make is so it opens a new tab instead? i would make it my defalut, i will acctually once i figure that out...

sure shot go to the netscape website and look for the plug in there, or go to the mozilla site and look for installing plug-ins. they have a whole bunch of links and what not.

[SureShot]

thanks didpi - I will have a look :) It really hasnt bugged me that much but it does become annoying once in a while.

[mdipi]

yeah once you learn how to install them its just findiing them :beam:

btu can someone help me with my tabs? please?

[lostinbeta]

You can press CTRL+T to open a new tab (or go to File/New Tab) or when clicking a link you can right click on it and choose "Open lin in new Tab"

[mdipi]

ok thanks lost, so there is no way to just have it auto open in a new tab?

[reverendflash]

just click with your center mouse wheel, or customize your toolbar, or use the center wheel to click on a tab...

many ways Mike...

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[RenaissanceGirl]

Hmm... sounds great... I'll give it a try when I get home. I love Moz so far and have had no problems with it. But if this loads faster - all the better!

[mdipi]

Ren, you are on a mac right? i am using Safari and love it. but i am going to try Camino, looks to be really good, and only for OS X. w00t. http://mozilla.org/projects/camino/

but if you dont use safari try it, so FAST.

[RenaissanceGirl]

Yes... I'm on a Mac... and yes... I use Safari. But I still think it's worth it to check out non-Apple products.

[mdipi]

true. :D i love my mac. where you been by the way?

[RelandR]

mdipi: "themes"::

Preferences > themes > click 'get new themes'

select one > choose install

go back thru pref's and select the new one from your list, click apply (or use this theme or smthg like that)

close & relaunch firebird

...I like "skypilot".....MmmmMm gooood brwsr

[mdipi]

yay! i am gettingit for my mac since camino didnt work.

thanks for teh help reland.

[Invis]

How do I get flash to work?

[reverendflash]

download the installer, then point it to the firebird/plugins folder...

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[Invis]

I did that, and it installed the .dll file, but I still can't view flash footers, ads, etc.

[mdipi]

Go to the netscape site and download the installer. when installing it choose firebird from the list of browsers.

if it doesnt show up choose ... or whatever and go to the firebird directory and work you way to the plug-ins folder, then install, thats what i had to do.

[Coppertop]

Bah, I will stay with IE THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Crazy Macintrash users.

[reverendflash]

good, follow that leader.

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[lostinbeta]

Originally posted by Coppertop
Bah, I will stay with IE THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Crazy Macintrash users.

You make it seem as though this thread is forcing people to use certain browsers... but really it just merely brings forth the name of an alternative browser that might be worth checking out.

[mdipi]

hey i use it for my PC and mac. and rev is on a PC too, so its not very nice to call everyone crazy...

on the other hand, i now use it on my mac too. i am using the skin...Px Classic on my windows and the deffalt skin on my mac, cause the scroll bar got messed up on that skin.

[Invis]

Originally posted by mdipi.com
Go to the netscape site and download the installer. when installing it choose firebird from the list of browsers.

if it doesnt show up choose ... or whatever and go to the firebird directory and work you way to the plug-ins folder, then install, thats what i had to do.

I did that :cool: dosnt work!

[mdipi]

try installiing to the root. it takes some playing around, mozilla site has instructions

[Niann]

I ran the installer, pointed it to the %root%\mozillafirebird\plugins\ directory and it worked fine for me. I used the installer directly from Macromedia's site. Make sure to close your browser when you run the installer. That helps. =)

Cheers!
-Niann

[lostinbeta]

I did what Niann did, worked fine for me.

I unzipped the firebird .zip file into my program files directory, then downloaded the macromedia plug-in installer, chose "other" from the browser selection list, then I manually pointed it to the plugin folder of the firebird directory in my program files folder and hit "install". Worked like a charm.

[dropkick]

does anyone else have a keyboard with open/close buttons? Mine used to work fine in Mozilla but they don't anymore. I'm trying out Opera again(SSSLLLLLLLOOOOOOWWW) and just trying out Avant. It looks pretty good so far and will probably take over Opera's spot as default. Anyone have any problems with avant?