Stretched skin

[sintax321]

I'm doing a site for a tattoo artist and i need to make a large section of stretched out human skin. Needs to look like a tanning hide sort of stretched out and pined down. I've tried a couple ideas but nothing looks right.

Any ideas or tutorials that could help me?

[eilsoe]

hmm :-\

If I were you I'd hijack a pic on google of some skin... then go from there...


use the liquify tool maybe, I dunno :)

[sintax321]

Ya i decided to start looking for pictures of body suspension which is no treat. Some ppl do weird things to there bodys. I have found a couple pics that have the shapes i want so i'm going to try to blend them together to make the base.

I'm still open to any toehr suggestions.

[jay-em]

That's gonna be tricky dude...
I did this in Poser 4 pro in like 2 seconds ....
Good luck, I will keep my eyes out for ya!
____jMkM:beam:

[sintax321]

I have it all pieced together. Now i have to blend it and tone it into one nice piece.

http://www.sintax321.com/jody/skin.jpg

What u think so far.

[DDD]

it looks pretty sick just because I know it is skin......it looks good but it does not look like it is tense....like it is stretched to the point it is going to rip.

[sintax321]

Ya i'll be tweeking that when i blend and tone it. Adding more streatch lines and making it look tighter. ANy body know of soem good teniques to blend this?

I figure i'm gong to desaturate all of it then work form there. Get the levels matching then starte to blend it together.

Any suggestions or ideas are welcome.

[sintax321]

Ok so i'm jsut about donw the blending and my next step will be coloring and toning the skin.

http://www.sintax321.com/jody/skinbw.jpg

i'm still tweeking to make it looked more streatched out every time.

[mdipi]

hey that looks pretty good! the first one was just nasty though...gave me the chills. i think redViper knows some good skin colouring technics cause he has done some good face manips. if not then i would use the colour selection in PS and just pick a colour from one of the other ones.

[sintax321]

ya it looks like a total mess hen u first put it together. NOw that it is blended it looks way better. I want to make sure i have it realy good before i color it.

[lostinbeta]

Bah, too bad I just gave all my fathers leather to my uncle. He had some tanning hide that would have been perfect to scan in, but alas, I no longer have it. Sorry :(

The black and white image looks good though, just need to add the color and stuff :)

[sintax321]

Ya i was trying to find pictures of tanning hide or stretched leather but couldnt' find any. IT was easy to find the body suspension pics though and it should work our the way i want it.

Once the color an the nails are in it should looke really good.

[jay-em]

Good job dude... That's pretty d@m nas !!

[sintax321]

ok here is the first round of coloring

http://www.sintax321.com/jody/skinc.jpg

so far so good?

::EDIT:: PS sorry about the copryright pattern. I jsut dont' want to find some has taken this image an modifyed for there own use after al this work. Not that any kirupian would. You guys understand.

[mdipi]

omgosh! that looks so good! *whistles* that is an amazing job! how did you go about colouring it?

[lostinbeta]

That is pretty darn good there sintax... great work :thumb:

[sintax321]

thanks guys. All i dd was hue/colorize it. Then i made some layers and blayed with soem blending options. I'm adding hte nails now.

[DDD]

hey sin your copyright pattern how did you do that? I have been trying to do the for quite sometime........The skin looks tight man

[sintax321]

I just opend up a new PS file 100x100.
Then typed in my name and rotated a bit.
Then i croped down.
Leave the background transparnet and go Edit>Define Pattern. Then jsut make a new layer on the image u wnat it on.
Then go Edit>Fill and form "Use"select "pattern" then select "custom pattern".

Your pattern should be in there and then u can overlay it or reduce the trasparancy.

Thanks for the compliments. Nails are just about in.

[DDD]

Thanks man.......I must say man you have gotten progressively better with every piece of work you have been doing......The way you go at it you have a bright future in design. And I still have not forgot the work you have done for me....hint hint

[sintax321]

Thanx for the props. Nice to know there is some postitive progression in my work. And thanx for not forgeting wink...wink;) lol

Just finishing the nails.

[sintax321]

Nails are in

http://www.sintax321.com/jody/skinn.jpg

Now i have to do the background. I'm thinking of doing wood or something. Want to make a really nice boarder that ties in nice and resizes for 1024x768. Then some shadows. Then some mock content and it is done.

What ya think?

[Jubba]

beautiful... sort of... I like it :thumb: great work Sintax! :)

[ahmed]

I'm no designer but im impressed =)

[sintax321]

Ya it is kind of dirty.

Thanx for all the compliments guys. I realy hope the end result works out.

[morse]

Good stuff, as always!

[sintax321]

ok i'm open for suggestions on how to boarder and background this layout base. I tried some wood but it didnt fit together right. Any ideas?

I need a bg that will adjsut for 1024x768 and 800x600.

[ahmed]

I was gonna say wood.. if not, try a wall texture like this one:

http://www.stucco-as-art.com/0-images/Stucco_house_texture_wall.jpg

:)

[Soul]

Ewww sick :P

[fluid_0ne]

nice, but add one more pattern, cuz' i can see the pattern but GREAT WORK anyways...

[mdipi]

those nails look great, did you make em? anyway its all coming together. ok now for a background right? i picture some wood planks, but grunge it up a ton so they look real dirty...

[DDD]

I would say grungy concrete. I can make you a nice concrete texture and you can grunge it. Let me know if you want me to make ya one.

[Jubba]

My opinion is dirty looking cracked wood, but I think 3d-iva's idea sounds great too. :)

[sintax321]

Originally posted by fluid_0ne
nice, but add one more pattern, cuz' i can see the pattern but GREAT WORK anyways...
I have no clue what u are talking about?

Ya i took a pic of my patio deck. It has some nice wood that is petty beat up. Still playing wiht it though. I have to keep tweeking it casue it looks like it is floating on top of it. Instead of going all wood behind i think i might boarder it with some metal or concrete.

If i cna't get the wood looking rightthen concrete is my next try.

[jay-em]

Man, that nasty!! lol Let us know when the site is up eh?

Great job man!!
____:bu: jMkM

[DDD]

Hey man Iwas bored and whipped up a couple of ps7 concrete textures. If youwant you can use them....Or I can tweak them a lil bit to fit what you have

[DDD]

and one with some pits

[sintax321]

Right now i'm testing some old looking grungy drywall. see what that looks like. I think the wood i was using was a bit too real. The skin it self i feel has a sureal look to it. Kind of like a Norman Rockwell painting.

[sintax321]

ok so here is the first wood bg i'm tinkering with. I'm thinking i'm going to make it a lot darker and grunge it up. What u guys think of it so far. I know it kind of looks like it is flating ontop right now but i'll be fixing that with some shadows.

so far so good?

[DDD]

link?

[sintax321]

http://www.sintax321.com/jody/test.htm

duh i've been at it to long

[mdipi]

sintax no link :(

[sintax321]

there is now, sorry guys. I've already decied against wood and if ido use it it will be a smaller part. Wood makes it look more country and more like a cow hide then human skin. So wood is kind of out.

[DDD]

that is exactly whayt I was about to say.....If you add some hair and folicles and some skin lines then maybe you can use wood......I think concrete or stucco since it is for a tatooist

[sintax321]

Ya i'm looking for the right piece of drywall or something. That or liek a surgical meateal looking piece and i'll grunge it up.

[mdipi]

yeah metal might be cool, like with blood or something...hehe.

that still looks good, just doesnt fit :-\

[sintax321]

I can't use blood. It will convay that getting a tattoo is a bloody painful mess. wish i could but i know i cna't.

[mdipi]

ayeah i thought of that soon after posting, but you said sergical, so... it would still look cool though, cant deny that...=)

[sintax321]

yep blood would be a huge bonus. I still might try a surgical steal texture behind there yet.

[DDD]

I can make you a stucco texture or metal i ya like. I am board and n the mood to make textures that I may use in 3d scenes

[Soul]

Is this guy a tattooist or a murder? :sure: Just curious as to why the site is going to be made from human skin? :-\

- Soul :s:

[sintax321]

Thanks for the offers 3d-iva but I'm almost complet with my won texture. We will see how this one looks.

He is a tattoo artist so figured skin is his canvas so why not make his site out of the same thing. He also mad it very clear he wanted some thing dark and grunge, something really out there.

He also told me he is a large fan of H.R. Giger's art work http://www.hrgiger.com/ (not the site but the art he does) and of Tool videos. I figured this would be a very fitting layout that he would really like cause it is his personal site.

The idea came to me when the sunburn on my back started to peal.

[mdipi]

oh i thought this was his studio's site :P i gotta do mine, this is truning out really good. one :q: for you though, did you make the nails or did you get them from pics? cause they look really good.

[sintax321]

Yep i did the nails. It comes in ahndy haveing a digital camera around.

[mdipi]

so i dont get it? you took pics? then used those?

[sintax321]

"Now see if you can snatch the pebble form my hand young grasshopper":asian:

Ya i went into the garage and took out some shingle nails. Then i put them in a vice and banged a couple wiht a hammer. THen i stuck them into a peice of foam. Then snaped of a few pics and croped out the best ones. Then i filtered them a bit so the refelctions would mathc the skin tone. Ta da

[mdipi]

ahh cool, you made it sound like you took pics then did them in PS:P (i wouldnt put it by you though)

cool cool/

[sintax321]

Not created in PS but Croped and adjsuted yep

[sintax321]

Ok here is the first test bg's

http://www.sintax321.com/jody/test.htm
http://www.sintax321.com/jody/test2.htm

I'm not very fond of 2 and need to paly aorund with it more. It has to be darker then 1 but i think i'm on the right track.

[DDD]

hhmmm.......I think they bot look like stone which gives the hint of caveman kinda situation. I think what ever texture you use should be a flatsurface. Like a stucco or concrete wall.

[mdipi]

i like the first one more than the second, but i agree with 3d..

[DDD]

hey man I feel guilty.....I am getting hella ideas from you for a project I am working on....Not plaigarising just ideas.

[sintax321]

Well i wish i could show u the latest update but my flahs is not working. I guess i'll either figure another way to test or work on somehting else till tis is figured out.

[ribcage]

Is it too late to consider trying hooks or something pulling the skin tight or tighter. Not that what you've done doesn't look cool but I get a jersey contractor gone postal kinda vibe with those flat head nails. If the skin were more suspended looking instead of tacked against a wall, I think I would feel less Hannibal Lecter and more Human Canvas.
I think chains and some kinda hooks or clamps could look cool, nice contrast between organic skin and cold dark metal, sorta Goth to me.
I like the concept a lot, these are just images that came to mind when I saw the work.

[sintax321]

i was thinking of that but It needs to fit for at the least 1024x768 and 800x600 resolution. using cahins was going to make it harder so i went with the nails.

[morse]

Have you thought about just a plate metal background?

[Jubba]

nails are kind of hard to drive into metal plates... lol :P

[mdipi]

Originally posted by Jubba
nails are kind of hard to drive into metal plates... lol :P

;) it would still look cool, but thats where the hooks might work, i liked that idea, the suspended above teh plate a bit maybe.

[sintax321]

I wish i could do the chains but it would be hard to make it rezise correctly and staycenter of the screen.

I'm goign to be formating my C: drive tommorw so i'll be back working on it then.

[mdipi]

ouch! i hate formating, i like the clean feel, but i always forget to back that ONE thing up, so i regret it...

[sintax321]

My partitions make sure i can't forget something so it is easy to do.

[mdipi]

oooo! what proggi did you use to partition?! i would love to do taht for my artwork folder :thumb:

[sintax321]

When i first set up my hard drive i made 4 partions. I think there are apps that can do it after the fact but i cna't remeber the name of it. I'll tell u as soon is a figure it out.

[lostinbeta]

My first hard drive had 2 partitions, which I am glad for because my 2nd partition was a backup of a lot of things and it definitely came in handy.

I did it via DOS mode in Win98 (2nd Ed)... if I remember correctly it gives you the option to partition when you reformat... but I could be wrong, it has been a very long time since i've done it.

[DDD]

you can always use norton ghost to back up a full 40gb hd to like 2 gb then place that somewhere in a partition then you can restore files as you need them. Thats how I do it. And I back up regularly (scheduled)

[fishtank]

name of the program: partition magic...

[sintax321]

That is it fishtank. I knew it was magic something or other. IT allows u to setup and modify partions wihtout reformating.

[morse]

When you do reformat, I know that win2k gives the option to partition.

[fishtank]

xp too, but when youve already got 2 partitions, with an os on one, you cant cut off a part of the one with the os... with partition magic you actually can...

[mdipi]

ahh thats it! i saw it on tech tv thanks guys!

[fishtank]

no problem... tech tv? wanna have too, sounds good :P

[sintax321]

Just reinstaled my OS and apps and things seem to be working fine.

I added soem crack lines where the nails would go threw the background. Still working on BG ideas but what do u think of the cracklines?

http://www.sintax321.com/jody/test3.htm

[mdipi]

oo thats good, i like them :thumb:

[sintax321]

IT will help pick a bg easyier. Makes things blend better and look less like it is floating.

[sintax321]

Ok i'm stressed out now. This bg should be the easy part yet i cna't find anything that matches up to the skin. I'm open ot all suggettions at this point cause i'm stupmped.

[DDD]

Dude a regular stucco wall. That is what is normally found in a tattoo parlor. I think the rock texture made it look to caveman like. I would just go stucco.

[jay-em]

I agree...Just a wall will be perfect. As a matter of fact...
Here ya go... My garage wall...

[DDD]

HAHAHAH....your wall looks like a wall off of counterstrike.......towards the end of a round. I have a stucco texture if ya want it Sin

[jay-em]

LOL yea, we have been throwing darts at it for a couple of years.
That was an idea not necessarily to be used...:bad:

[sintax321]

ya put up what ever u got and i'll see what i can do with it. Going to keep trying things till i find one htat looks amazing with it.

[jay-em]

Here are some things I dug up that may help you...

[jay-em]

Next...

[jay-em]

Here are a few more...



HERE (http://www.jmkm.com/bg.htm)

[sintax321]

Thanks jay-em. I'm playign around with the 3rd on in the last link right now. We will see how these fit.

[jay-em]

Cool
Hopefully you can mod one of those up to be useful...
Maybe JM can get a pixel person outta this eh? lol :beam:

[jay-em]

brushed metal I created if ya need it...

[DDD]

you should do one without the diagonal lines for tiling purposes. And maybe add some lighting effects to get it photorealistic.

[sintax321]

Ya anything i use needs to tile. Thnaks for helping thoguh. I've kind of had to put his project on the back burner while i finish up a couple other ones.

[BBatPA]

Try this for the bg.....Possible bg ??? (http://projectallure.com/wood.jpg) ....I made it 1024x768....If you like it and want the .psd to modify it just change .jpg in the link to .psd.

If you would like me to make any other samples let me know.....I'll make you whatever you need.....Describe what you like to see....I'll do my best to make it happen !!!

Possible bg ??? (http://projectallure.com/wood.jpg)

[sintax321]

BBatPA thanks for the help but your link is 404.

[BBatPA]

Sorry sin......Think I got it now.....LOL....Check the above link....It's been edited.