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amp
August 13th, 2003, 09:11 PM
OK. What would you consider The offspring as? (genre) :tb:

Xpeder
August 13th, 2003, 09:17 PM
What is power pop ?

amp
August 13th, 2003, 09:19 PM
According to some of my friends, its a harder/faster version of pop. :d:

mdipi
August 13th, 2003, 09:20 PM
3

amp
August 13th, 2003, 09:21 PM
3

...? Theres a poll up there.

Soul
August 13th, 2003, 09:24 PM
3 too,

when we have polls it's still nice to know who voted for what, which is why we post too :)

- Soul :s:

nobody
August 13th, 2003, 09:25 PM
I would go for none of those.
They aren't really punk or pop or anything.
They're kinda like rapesque rock with a hint of punk in my amazing opinion.

The funny thing is my playlist of 300+ plus songs, 5 of which are the offspring, started playing the offspring just now.

amp
August 13th, 2003, 09:26 PM
o, my bad! :asian:

Xpeder
August 13th, 2003, 09:29 PM
Well back in the day on there first CD they were more like hard rockers and then they started do go pop with prity fly for a white guy then now they are starting to go back in the middle so i just say alternative

sintax321
August 13th, 2003, 11:03 PM
They uesd to be punk but have shifted to a more main stream alteranative. "Americana" was the big change.

pinx
August 14th, 2003, 01:02 AM
they are not alternative. that is bull****. i refuse to think of them as "mainstream".

sintax321
August 14th, 2003, 01:32 AM
lol "pretty fly for a white guy" and "Original Prankster" could it get any more main stream.

Kitiara
August 14th, 2003, 05:13 AM
I don't give a flying **** whether they're considered 'mainstream' or not. What the hell difference does it make?

I'd say they were more rock than anything else. "Americana" did venture into more pop territory, this is true. But I don't care, I bought the album, played it and I liked what I heard. :)

I own all their albums, and personally I'm glad they've not stagnated and kept churning out the same stuff again and again. They've tried new things, and still produced some cracking tunes. "Pretty Fly" was a quality tune. :)

I've also been to see them live at Wembley, and they really did <i>rock</i>. Seriously. No way would you accuse these guys of being pop if you'd watched them do the set I saw them do. Incredible.

As you might have noticed, I'm quite passionate about this particular topic. :P Anyone want to argue with me? :beam:

TheOrangeOne
August 14th, 2003, 05:17 AM
Alternative. Although i dont beleive that is a good thing to use as a category.
Alternative? Alternative to what?
Technically pop is alternative, as is garage music, dance music, blues, soul etc.......

Cello
August 14th, 2003, 05:20 AM
Don't sit on the fence, Kit - what do you really think? ;)

Kitiara
August 14th, 2003, 05:22 AM
I like my music, that's all. :beam:

And I've loved the Offspring ever since Ignition. :) Heh, when I was at school, everyone else was listening to Take That or New Kids or some other rubbish, and there was me listening to Offspring... :sure:

TheOrangeOne
August 14th, 2003, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by sintax321
lol "pretty fly for a white guy" and "Original Prankster" could it get any more main stream.

Just because a song is popular with the masses, it doesn't mean it is 'mainstream'. I can't think of any bands that sound like the offspring do on 'pretty fly for a white guy'

As for americana, people only say that was the big change because it was the album that got them more recognition. They opted for a more cartoon looking album cover, which naturally made them more popular with kids. It was only natural that 'Pretty Fly' would get released because it is so **** catchy and has the greatest scope for a wider audiance! (come, these guys are in to make money after all....)

The music itself was not a big change for the offspring, mearly the next step in their musical progression. Seriously, listen to their albums in release order, you can literally hear the band developing and maturing!

self titled 'The offspring' Is your typical teenage angst type album, ignition still has the angst, but has a more mature, cleaner sounder sound to it. Smash is where the band truely starts to develop, with the almighty song 'Self Esteem'. You can then follow through 'ixney on the hombre' to 'Conspiracy of One' where the band develops its own, unique image and sound to the band we know today.



*sigh*

TheOrangeOne
August 14th, 2003, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by Kitiara
I don't give a flying **** whether they're considered 'mainstream' or not. What the hell difference does it make?


I've also been to see them live at Wembley, and they really did <i>rock</i>. Seriously. No way would you accuse these guys of being pop if you'd watched them do the set I saw them do. Incredible.
As you might have noticed, I'm quite passionate about this particular topic. :P Anyone want to argue with me? :beam:
No way would i argue with that! I've seen them live too (right at the front baby!) and they truely do rock! I love the offspring sound, they sound so clean and fresh, no matter how many time i listen to them.

Kitiara
August 14th, 2003, 05:38 AM
I totally agree. :) Smash was incredible, such great songs on there. Self Esteem literally rocks.

They're not afraid to be funny either, ever listen to the words of the Disclaimer on Ixnay? :P Never fails to make me laugh whenever I hear it. Or Intermission, it's so "Elevator Musak". :sure:

Orange, I can't think of anyone who sounds like them or they sound like either. :)

TheOrangeOne
August 14th, 2003, 05:40 AM
Heh heh, I own crazy taxi on the playstaion, and the only reason i bought it was because The Offspring did the music! (and Bad religion)

Noodles is really funny, when i saw them at Reading, he kept pointing at the noodle stands and saying they were named after him! Dexter wanted a 'Dexter Stand' :P

Kitiara
August 14th, 2003, 05:59 AM
Yeah, they are funny guys. :)

I just have to listen to some now. Lucky for me, I have a few tracks (Keep 'Em Separated, Dirty Magic, Denial Revisited) here at work... :beam:

[Legoman]
August 14th, 2003, 08:10 AM
I voted powerpop (I usually call it pop-punk, but sounds like the same thing) along with blink 182 et al.

TheOrangeOne
August 14th, 2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by [Legoman]
I voted powerpop (I usually call it pop-punk, but sounds like the same thing) along with blink 182 et al.
you compare Blink 182 with the almighty Offspring? :bad:

Grr... I shall smite thee.....
http://amok.digitalrice.com/ill/smite.gif

sintax321
August 14th, 2003, 12:23 PM
"The Offspring" was there there first disc in 89 and was totaly punk and totaly kicked ***.

"Ingnition" was there second disc in 92 and was very punk

"Smash" was there third in 95 and one of may favorite discs. Some very good punk music which managed to be picked up in the main stream wihtout changing there sound. Still punk and still kickass.

"Ixnay on the Hombre" 97 punk.

"Americana" 98. Some good punk quality songs but with a diffenrt sound form before and your lets sell some recoreds "Pretty fly for a white guy" and "Why don't you get a job"

"Conseracy of One" 2000 they try to get back to more of a punk sound but still ahve the lets sell records song "Original prankster".

Each disc is amazing in in its own way. Back in the day they where an amzing punk band but have went to making these really markatable songs instead of selling there punk sound. I've been listen to them sence my Broter gave the there first disc and noticed large change over the loyal years of buying every disc. They still make punk music but they dont' sell it. They sell there mainstream songs.

They are not punk pop and never compare them to blink 182 who where never really punk.

The Offspring are a punk band that are selling a more alternative mainstream sound. I'm jsut glad they have kept some punk songs on there discs for the true fans.

Kitiara
August 14th, 2003, 02:00 PM
And the thing is, they've lasted and will last a lot longer than any of these manufactured groups like Westlife or the Pop Stars Rivals ones...

A darn sight better music too. :)

amp
August 14th, 2003, 09:13 PM
Yeah, I LUV offspring like crazy. But now my parents think they are some sort of cult after reading the lyrics and stuff... sometimes people need freedom to listen to what they think is best. :m:

BadMagick
August 14th, 2003, 09:53 PM
I dunno if you can consider The Offspring as POP ... you have to be the flavor of the week, then burn-out. They've been in town for a while (although their older stuff was much better).

I say alternative is the genre, because they're not totally rock, they're not totaly "pop", and the label punk is mis-used very often.