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ahmed
June 4th, 2003, 08:10 AM
http://www.2advanced.com



from their newletter:
2Advanced Studios and Bacardi® DJ proudly present: Never Rain ’03, an event to open the mind and stir the senses. The “Fight for the Future” begins July 16, 2003 at the Galaxy Theater in Orange County, as 2Advanced reveals “Prophecy,” the highly anticipated fourth version of the 2Advanced website that strives to be a destination that will stimulate inner emotions and awake visitors to the possibilities for the future. Never Rain ’03 seeks to bring together the minds of the Web, Design and Internet communities to share in a night of celebration and creative inspiration featuring the tough progressive and sleek techno trance sets of Christopher Lawrence. Come join us and find out why “it never rains in Los Angeles.”

The first three weeks of ticket sales for the event will be available exclusively through the 2Advanced website (www.2advanced.com) or directly from the URL: http://www.neverrain.com. The remaining ticket sales (if any) will then be made available through the Galaxy Theater to the general public. The ticket cost is $23 for those 18 years and older. Doors open at 6 p.m. and attendees are encouraged to come early to mingle with industry peers. The unveiling of “Prophecy v.4” will be showcased on a big screen followed by a three minute 2A “Prophecy” video reel. Guests will enjoy a special treat as Eric Jordan, 2A’s own in-house DJ and President, spins a one hour set followed directly by headliner Christopher Lawrence.

Find out more information about Never Rain ’03 and purchase tickets HERE. It's gonna be interesting, can't wait to see the new site C:-)

Kitiara
June 4th, 2003, 08:14 AM
Can't wait to see the new site... And the millions of imitations that will spring up within a week. :P

Voetsjoeba
June 4th, 2003, 10:58 AM
:P Expecting to be blown away :P

Luigifan
June 4th, 2003, 11:18 AM
yeah, hope it has the impact of the original!

SureShot
June 4th, 2003, 11:48 AM
Well with a huge Gala just for the opening of their website - it better the best thing since Sliced Bread! :)

replode
June 4th, 2003, 02:47 PM
that's cool, but they should have links the their previous sites, cause it'd be nice to see those too.:)

Digitalosophy
June 4th, 2003, 02:59 PM
great post, i will be looking foward to seeing their new site.... and the 101 imitations as jubba said.. lol

ahmed
June 4th, 2003, 03:58 PM
haha.. it's sad how many pathetic rip-offs are out there on the internet..

T-O
June 4th, 2003, 04:07 PM
ow ow I can't wait oe oe oe oe

Alex
June 4th, 2003, 08:03 PM
i cant wait to see it, im amased by the current design!

Cheez00
June 4th, 2003, 08:52 PM
oOooOoOooooO cant wait, anyone have any info on it? gonna be hard to top the current one

Alex
June 4th, 2003, 08:54 PM
http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25071

UncleGuito
June 4th, 2003, 09:03 PM
haha, it funny u should bring this up. right before i saw this i checked my email and got the 2a newsletter. i was like, woah new site sweet: the prophecy

yeah ill post the letter here

2Advanced Studios and Bacardi® DJ
Host Industrywide Event to Launch
“Prophecy” - Version 4 of the 2Advanced Website


2Advanced Studios and Bacardi® DJ proudly present: Never Rain ’03, an event to open the mind and stir the senses. The “Fight for the Future” begins July 16, 2003 at the Galaxy Theater in Orange County, as 2Advanced reveals “Prophecy,” the highly anticipated fourth version of the 2Advanced website that strives to be a destination that will stimulate inner emotions and awake visitors to the possibilities for the future. Never Rain ’03 seeks to bring together the minds of the Web, Design and Internet communities to share in a night of celebration and creative inspiration featuring the tough progressive and sleek techno trance sets of Christopher Lawrence. Come join us and find out why “it never rains in Los Angeles.”

The first three weeks of ticket sales for the event will be available exclusively through the 2Advanced website (www.2advanced.com) or directly from the URL: http://www.neverrain.com. The remaining ticket sales (if any) will then be made available through the Galaxy Theater to the general public. The ticket cost is $23 for those 18 years and older. Doors open at 6 p.m. and attendees are encouraged to come early to mingle with industry peers. The unveiling of “Prophecy v.4” will be showcased on a big screen followed by a three minute 2A “Prophecy” video reel. Guests will enjoy a special treat as Eric Jordan, 2A’s own in-house DJ and President, spins a one hour set followed directly by headliner Christopher Lawrence.

Find out more information about Never Rain ’03 and purchase tickets HERE.

mdipi
June 4th, 2003, 09:07 PM
i think the current design is really nice, i cant wait to see this one~

UNFLUX
June 5th, 2003, 12:16 AM
i'm not expecting to be blown away. impressed? - prehaps.

But honestly, how can they top what they've done already? I
hope they do, but I'm just not expecting it to. I want to see
it wondering if it's gonna be good or not, and letting it do it's job
before I even see a single pixel of it.

Digitalosophy
June 5th, 2003, 01:02 AM
you know know what unflux, this is what i think. their site now is so sick that if they werent going to blow it away, why make a new one? i am expecting to see some great work.

c!rYx
June 5th, 2003, 01:04 AM
Same with me, I guess it is kinda hard to top what they do right now. I hope that not that many people are dissapointed if they don't bring the Flash Design to new standards...

T-O
June 5th, 2003, 01:20 AM
crap you have to over 18

eyeinfinitude
June 5th, 2003, 01:27 AM
Whatever it is, I'm guessing that there will be more 3d work involved.

bleutuna
June 5th, 2003, 01:37 AM
Wow, that's an awfully big hub-bub for the unveiling of a new site design :P

I don't think they'd go to all this trouble if they didn't have something revolutionary planned. Otherwise, there'd be a riot when it's unveiled.

I mean, seriously, $23 to see the unveiling of a website? Gots to be good :D

:pope:

Kitiara
June 5th, 2003, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by Digitalosophy
great post, i will be looking foward to seeing their new site.... and the 101 imitations as jubba said.. lol Hang on a minute, actually I said that, and I am not Jubba. :P

Digitalosophy
June 5th, 2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Kitiara
Hang on a minute, actually I said that, and I am not Jubba. :P

lol, your right, it was you.

well in that case, i agree with Kitiara :)

urbanscrawl
June 5th, 2003, 09:59 PM
They do have the previous versions of the site in 'Tranmisions' at the bottom right hand side of the main screen...

c!rYx
June 5th, 2003, 10:58 PM
so what ?! :)

ahmed
June 5th, 2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by c!rYx
so what ?! :)





Originally posted by Replode
that's cool, but they should have links the their previous sites, cause it'd be nice to see those too.:)


Originally posted by urbanscrawl
They do have the rpevious versions of the site in 'Tranmisions' at the bottom right hand side of the main screen...

:trout: :P

c!rYx
June 5th, 2003, 11:11 PM
Haha :) Now ;)

c!rYx
June 5th, 2003, 11:13 PM
It is so funny, the old site in this brown looks kinda not special, but the middle part looks just like the site they now do have, really really weird :)

NeoDreamer
July 15th, 2003, 03:08 PM
http://www.2advanced.com/ ... I'm going to faint. I havn't seen anything new on 2A for so long. :x

replode
July 15th, 2003, 03:10 PM
wow, 35 hours to go. we may not be able to get on kirupa cause 2 Advanced will control all of MediaTemple's bandwith :P

thediablo
July 15th, 2003, 03:21 PM
someone told me that in here: http://prophecy.2advanced.com

is the new version of 2a...

but i dont know the pass lol!!!!!!

someone H4X0R THAT!

mlk
July 15th, 2003, 03:22 PM
hehe they've got 35 hrs to come up with a new design - i bet they're working their ***** right now and haven't done anything yet =)...

I heard they won an award at the FFF in new york last week....

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by thediablo
someone H4X0R THAT!Elite ebonics will get you banned on this forum. . .just kidding it just annoys the hell out of me :P

I have a feeling it isn't there so that you can login to it, there to keep all the people like you skeptic. . . .

thediablo
July 15th, 2003, 03:32 PM
the site is there!!!

h4x0r the p4$$!@#!@

lol!!!

no.. for sure is there a friend of mine watch the site there yesterday (dont ask how he get that url)

but maybe it was the test site for the new stuff... and they saw the traffic coming there... and lock it

:(

its so sad wait 35hrs...

not even a d4mn sCr33n Sh00t! (lol with the ebonics :P)

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 03:37 PM
j00 w!11 D!3 n0w

Kitiara
July 15th, 2003, 03:38 PM
Well, it beats the "nizzle" talk, you know... :P

Still, it'll be interesting to see what they've come up with. Although let's face it, give it two days and there'll be a plethora of copies out there. :)

replode
July 15th, 2003, 03:41 PM
fo shizzle :P

thediablo
July 15th, 2003, 03:43 PM
0k f0r n0w l3t$ 4ll b3 l33t 4nD T4lK 3b0n|c$

(i remember old mIRC days with that talking :P)

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Kitiara
Well, it beats the "nizzle" talk, you know... :PI think the new 2A site will be off tha heezy fa sheezy my neezy. . . . ;)

Fa Sho!

Kitiara
July 15th, 2003, 03:48 PM
<b>*Shoots self*</b> :P

lostinbeta
July 15th, 2003, 03:54 PM
I CAN'T WAIT!!!! to see how many people rip this version off



:shoots self:

SureShot
July 15th, 2003, 03:57 PM
fo shizzle my nizzle. at lizzle I can underfizzle this shizzle... not like that other crap :(

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 04:02 PM
Yoozy noozy wat I beez sizzlin busta bizzy Tuknukizzy!

SureShot
July 15th, 2003, 04:05 PM
Dizzle, What the Fizzle?
Tuckfizzle is always on Pizzle - bizzle.

Word to Snoop Dizzle, my nizzle fo shizzle! hahahaizzle hahah

NeoDreamer
July 15th, 2003, 04:28 PM
I think one of their goals for this new version is to make it so good and complicated that no one is able to copy it.

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Supree
I think one of their goals for this new version is to make it so good and complicated that no one is able to copy it. Hopefully enough so that people won't rip-off their site for footers ;)

ahmed
July 15th, 2003, 04:34 PM
i think it can still be ripped off no matter how complex is it.. some people balantly steal the graphics.. i mean, look at your footer :-P :sigh:

reverendflash
July 15th, 2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Supree
I think one of their goals for this new version is to make it so good and complicated that no one is able to copy it.

just like last time?

:trout:

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

lostinbeta
July 15th, 2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Supree
I think one of their goals for this new version is to make it so good and complicated that no one is able to copy it.


But see, most 2A rips are just as bad as most newbie geocities sites, so no matter how good they make it, people think they are just as good when they aren't even close, but they rip it anyway!

NeoDreamer
July 15th, 2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by ahmed
i think it can still be ripped off no matter how complex is it.. some people balantly steal the graphics.. i mean, look at your footer :-P :sigh:

I made it from scratch, using only vector graphics. I am not stealing it. I didn't just steal the graphics, change "2A" to "Supree," and claim it is mine.

ahmed
July 15th, 2003, 05:01 PM
makes a whole lot of differences eh :-\

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 05:02 PM
It even links to your site. . . .

thediablo
July 15th, 2003, 05:04 PM
LOL about the footer...

is it a rip? or you intentionally make it like a 2a thing?

Mik3
July 15th, 2003, 05:17 PM
don't even start again, something happened before

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 05:28 PM
I ain't scured. . .

DigitalPimp
July 15th, 2003, 05:33 PM
I think it is a rip. I don't think 2a is anything that special... I mean it is all just tweens and stuff. I've seen a lot more interesting stuff out there.

UncleGuito
July 15th, 2003, 05:34 PM
i love the 2advanced reels of the movies they make or trailers or wahtever u call them for their site

Millad
July 15th, 2003, 05:55 PM
Im going to rip the new version site of 2advanced site. :bad:

I just cant wait:trout:

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 06:01 PM
The difference between 2A and you is that they can gain clients with their design, it is harder to get clients when you have a copied crappy version of a really good site. 2A isn't just tweens, their usability and everything runs smooth, everything works in current with each other!

Millad
July 15th, 2003, 06:07 PM
so they use actionscript for animation ?

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by TaylorTAP
I think it is a rip. I don't think 2a is anything that special... I mean it is all just tweens and stuff. I've seen a lot more interesting stuff out there. I was replying to his post saying that all 2A is tweens and "stuff". Only a mediocre view. . . .

DigitalPimp
July 15th, 2003, 06:18 PM
Haha. I don't need clients. I am a well paid salary employee. I still get offers all the time to do consulting but I prefer not to.

Please don't bash me because I don't like 2A.

Honestly though, their site ISN'T anything special. Crap, every site they make looks the same (ie. the real estate site they developed). Yea, they do have some good ideas but I've seen soo much better.

Millad
July 15th, 2003, 06:25 PM
No body have ever answerd this question for me I dont know why ?


How the **** did 2A creat smove animations ?
DO they use AS all the way or tween but how. Is there tutorial for this ?

Answer plz :(

DigitalPimp
July 15th, 2003, 06:26 PM
They are just tweening it with a high framerate.

You can't do shape tweens with AS, that I know of anyways.

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 06:55 PM
You can only do motion type tweens with Actionscript.

2A uses hand made motion tweens for most of their work.

I don't think 2A is the best or close to it. I think they are good business men that know how to also make stunning sites. It is their professionality of their work that makes them better. I like many other sites much more, including Billy Bussey, Fantasy Interfaces, Gmunk and many others!

lostinbeta
July 15th, 2003, 07:49 PM
Don't forget flashlevel Dan :)

mansour
July 15th, 2003, 08:10 PM
The New 2advanced, is going to be released in exactly 30:49:00
i have great expectations for the new version. I'm sure that it will be way better than the first version.


Visit 2advanced.com to see the count down


C:-) :player:

Mik3
July 15th, 2003, 08:12 PM
did you read the other post?!!?!

ahmed
July 15th, 2003, 08:13 PM
i bet it's gonna have a 3d-interface..

kirupa
July 15th, 2003, 08:13 PM
merged the threads :)

Mik3
July 15th, 2003, 08:16 PM
i bet its going to have super long transitions

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 08:16 PM
I bet it will involve massive 3ds max, after effects, and swift 3d (eric jordon uses it a lot).

reverendflash
July 15th, 2003, 08:17 PM
it will prob be all HTML, with blinking text, and a whole bunch of adverts...

:beam:

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 08:18 PM
Don't forget the bullets and javascript fading menu, with a quicktime video for the logo.

reverendflash
July 15th, 2003, 08:19 PM
with lots of .wavs with no preloaders!

:beam:

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 08:31 PM
Don't forget full screen display with no close button!

thediablo
July 15th, 2003, 08:33 PM
humm...

h0ws the h4x0r of the p4$$ d3w1nG?

ahmed
July 15th, 2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by thediablo
h0ws the h4x0r of the p4$$ d3w1nG? you're kidding right? :eye:

coreyem
July 15th, 2003, 09:00 PM
Wait, I know what the new site will be like.

"Bleeep bloop"
"Whoosh!"
"beepbeep"
"Ding"
"Snick"
"Whoosh-ding"

One of their designers has his own site, I like it better than 2advanced:
Pixelranger (http://www.pixelranger.com)

Also really like these guys work, based out of my hometown, about 2 blocks from my apartment! :
The Furious (http://www.thefurious.com)

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 09:23 PM
This is one of 2advanced newest members, I know him before he joined the team, here is his old site:

http://www.jaijin.com/andru

I talked to him on AIM also and have that, but I am not giving it out!

mdipi
July 15th, 2003, 09:48 PM
ahahah! you guys havent seen it! ahaha! i have! :P or at least the beta. but i cant talk about it cause i signed papers.


































jk
edit: dan i have seen this before, its awsome, i forgot how to get in though...

telekinesis
July 15th, 2003, 10:02 PM
:P I'll never tell!




































































(there are many combinations "00" is one of them) ;)

mdipi
July 15th, 2003, 10:12 PM
i swear that open button wasnt there before...

mdipi
July 15th, 2003, 10:14 PM
omgosh! that intro...that site...ahh now i remember...

Raydred
July 15th, 2003, 10:15 PM
28:46: 26!!!
28:46: 25
28:46: 24
28:46: 23
28:46: 22
28:46: 21
28:46: 20
28:46: 19
28:46: 18
28:46: 17
28:46: 16
*looks at watch..*
28:46: 13
28:46: 12
28:46: 11
*gets exhausted..*
28:46: 6
28:46: 5
28:46: 4
28:46: 3
28:46: 2
....
..

Ahh Forget it!

Alex
July 15th, 2003, 10:16 PM
lol, its like counting down to new years eve. :P

kirupa
July 15th, 2003, 10:18 PM
....I'll even find a big crystal bowl and hurl it toward the ground kind of like the real New Year's countdown :beam:

mdipi
July 15th, 2003, 10:19 PM
only on newyears we dont get a enw 2a.

hehe iwould hate to be the guy who has to miss the party to stream it live...hehe. all the other guys are gonna be so hung over the next day...tehehe

Raydred
July 15th, 2003, 10:23 PM
Happy 2advanced Day!!..

no no.. too Happy..*adjust voice*

Happy... *clears throat* ..
Happy 2advanced Day!... *shaked head tries again...

(trying to practice for the launch.. =) )

Alex
July 15th, 2003, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by kirupa
....I'll even find a big crystal bowl and hurl it toward the ground kind of like the real New Year's countdown :beam:

mean while your neighbors will be looking at you like you need to be admitted to a mental hospital :P:P:P:P:P:P:P

sintax321
July 16th, 2003, 01:41 AM
Pretty much one day to lauch. I wonder if the server will crash.

Xpeder
July 16th, 2003, 01:58 AM
They have unlimited bandwidth dont they ?

lostinbeta
July 16th, 2003, 02:00 AM
that wouldn't matter for server load. Too many visitors at one time can cause a server crash.

Xpeder
July 16th, 2003, 02:03 AM
Yeah i guess you are right :nerd:

lostinbeta
July 16th, 2003, 02:07 AM
Yeah, so lets just hope their server doesn't crash and take a week to come back ;)

NeoDreamer
July 16th, 2003, 02:08 AM
Hey, I don't understand Media Temple? Why don't they tell you how much bandwidth and disk space each package offers????

ahmed
July 16th, 2003, 02:17 AM
:q:

http://www.mediatemple.net/services/webhosting/ss/linux-standard/matrix/

lostinbeta
July 16th, 2003, 02:22 AM
note the big drop down box ;)

andr.in
July 16th, 2003, 03:17 AM
24 hours to go!
c'moooooon

Lynx
July 16th, 2003, 03:30 AM
24 hours? one day... eh I'm so curious, what do they got this time for us... =) :P

Kajinku
July 16th, 2003, 04:15 AM
You know what I've been thinking? What if it sucks? OK, it probably won't, but still... what *if*? What will the reaction be of the people, of the fans?

Hm... I guess something like the effect STAR WARS Episode I had on the audience: the true fans will say they love it even if their heart broke...

Anyway, let's continue and poop our pants. :P

Millad
July 16th, 2003, 05:08 AM
I bet the 2A team is visiting all the popular forums for flash and checking the comments so maybe someone is whatching :)

Soul
July 16th, 2003, 05:21 AM
Haha I bet it'll be full of animated gifs and hot pink backgrounds :bad:

- Soul :s:

Kitiara
July 16th, 2003, 05:32 AM
I'm not all that excited really... When I first saw 2A I was just starting out in web development, and I was seriously impressed... Now I know Flash I loko at their site and just think "meh, motion tween, I could do that..."

It's lost a lot of it's appeal now that I know Flash and scripting...

telekinesis
July 16th, 2003, 05:33 AM
But I am still jealous, it's people like him that keep people like me from making sites, embarrasment :P

Jasninder
July 16th, 2003, 06:52 AM
i never liked 2advanced, i prefer sites like neostream and whoswe...... may b coz white is my color.Every other site follows the 2 advanced theme....... S O B O R I N G


But still,lets wait and see how this one goes out.
Hope they come wid some fresh ideas and may be some smooth colors for a change.

eyeinfinitude
July 16th, 2003, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Blastboy
I bet the 2A team is visiting all the popular forums for flash and checking the comments so maybe someone is whatching :)
Of course, 2A has agents and spys surfing the net for juicy gossip about their studio all the time. :P

Lynx
July 16th, 2003, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by Kitiara
Now I know Flash I loko at their site and just think "meh, motion tween, I could do that..."
haha, well yeah, it wouldn't be that hard to redo it, but it's difficult to make something new but still as good as 2a... and isn't this why there are so many rip offs on the net :)

Kajinku
July 16th, 2003, 07:18 AM
Yeah, I predict a lot of 3D this time... I can't imagine them being "new" without flashy 3D stuff.

Millad
July 16th, 2003, 07:20 AM
I hope they have another stye and color for there new site. not just blue...etc

Maybe 3D and cool sound/animation.

waiting for pixelranger :)

comicGeek
July 16th, 2003, 08:33 AM
I heard that the new title is " Never Rain!" :-\

comicGeek
July 16th, 2003, 08:36 AM
Dan has a thread about the new beta version of billybusey.com! I think that site is truly great being able to combine all techniques in new media particularly motion graphics! :)

fluid_0ne
July 16th, 2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by comicGeek
I heard that the new title is " Never Rain!" :-\


it exists already...

UncleGuito
July 16th, 2003, 11:45 AM
the new title is prophecy
nenver rain was the party they held to release it

sintax321
July 16th, 2003, 01:10 PM
Kit is right. Technicly there isn't anythign advanced about 2A's old site at al. It is still very impressive thoguh to be on of the first ones to make a site like this. One that is so widly compyed and ripped.

lostinbeta
July 16th, 2003, 01:18 PM
I have to agree with Kit as well, 2A is nothing but tweens and now that I know flash and AS I can see right through their site, but it is the way they implement them that is great. I still don't think 2A is the best though, they are one of the best, but not the best.

telekinesis
July 16th, 2003, 01:38 PM
Well you have to remember this version has been out for a long time, remember the first time it was released, I sure as hell do. It was a break in the media evolution of web development. They brought forth an erruption of inspiration. You cannot just say "Now that I know how they did it, their work isn't hard". You have to remember they did this version many years ago and without Flash MX.

My opinion is that they will break the barrier again to evolve the way you view sites on the internet. No doubt in the world that they will inspire our senses again. I think it is disrespect to say that their years old work is easy and can be done by many. I think you should be proud of them and let them inspire instead of point out their flaws and the things that they do, sure others can mimick or even make better, but they were one of the first and they sure do it well. I sure as hell wouldn't want to get back stabbed like that from fans that I inspired years back and then they start thinking of me as mediocre.

Just my opinion on the subject, I really don't care if anyone disagrees.

sintax321
July 16th, 2003, 01:50 PM
True dan very true. This site has been out for a long time and was built on older Flash versions. You probalb ywouldnt' see half the cool sites u see know if 2A haddent inspired pll to do better.

13 hours to go :stunned:

mdipi
July 16th, 2003, 02:03 PM
big deal that we know how to do it...CAN we do it? they way they put it together makes it the whole thing, i mean, everything is tweens, so what? would you do it? i am not doubting anyone here, but thats the question to ask yourself...

NeoDreamer
July 16th, 2003, 02:42 PM
I bet the file sizes will be huge. I read in an interview that Eric Jordan was looking forward to the day when everyone had broadband, so he didn't have to hold back on quality.

telekinesis
July 16th, 2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by mdipi.com
big deal that we know how to do it...CAN we do it? they way they put it together makes it the whole thing, i mean, everything is tweens, so what? would you do it? i am not doubting anyone here, but thats the question to ask yourself... All I know is that I sure as hell can't make anything comparable to 2A work and not very many people that I know either. Then again we all have to remember that it isn't just one person, he has help, but I think it is a masterpiece no matter how many people it took. I am not sure, but I have even heard that the current 2A version was done entirely by him.

DigitalPimp
July 16th, 2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by telekinesis
Well you have to remember this version has been out for a long time, remember the first time it was released, I sure as hell do. It was a break in the media evolution of web development. They brought forth an erruption of inspiration. You cannot just say "Now that I know how they did it, their work isn't hard". You have to remember they did this version many years ago and without Flash MX.

My opinion is that they will break the barrier again to evolve the way you view sites on the internet. No doubt in the world that they will inspire our senses again. I think it is disrespect to say that their years old work is easy and can be done by many. I think you should be proud of them and let them inspire instead of point out their flaws and the things that they do, sure others can mimick or even make better, but they were one of the first and they sure do it well. I sure as hell wouldn't want to get back stabbed like that from fans that I inspired years back and then they start thinking of me as mediocre.

Just my opinion on the subject, I really don't care if anyone disagrees.

Good point and all but "years" old is ridiclous in my opinion. I redo my sites every 2 yrs @ most and that is for my huge! e-commerce sites that have thousands of pages. For a site like that they should be mixing it up every 6 months or so.

SureShot
July 16th, 2003, 03:57 PM
Why every 6 months when years later there are very very few sites out there that even compare - still.

Besides... when you are a busy web design company you usually dont have time to udate your site every other month anyway. It's always the way. Most people take it as a good sign when your too busy to do your own site :)

reverendflash
July 16th, 2003, 03:59 PM
just remember...

most design houses don't have killer sites of their own. It just takes way too many resources that you could be making money off of, instead of paying them to make your own site.

At their stage of fame, their own site doesn't get them business, rather the designs of other's sites gets them the business. Their site is more of an ego based thing, than a business getting device.

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

SureShot
July 16th, 2003, 04:00 PM
hahaha Rev

great minds....

:)

reverendflash
July 16th, 2003, 04:01 PM
but I said it better!


phlbbbbbbbbt!

:P

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

coreyem
July 16th, 2003, 04:14 PM
Whatever happened to www.gabocorp.com? Anybody remember that site? That was the first flash site I remember being truly amazed by... either that dude is crazy busy with other peoples sites (unlikely), or he took all that money he got from his first few clients and is tripping in Goa right now...
-C

thediablo
July 16th, 2003, 04:27 PM
i bet the site is going to look like SOUL site lol!.... the one that won the battle contest "THE WORST SITE DESIGN"

could find the link it would be more funny with a link...



h0ws the p4$$ d3w1nG? (and yes... im kidding)

NeoDreamer
July 16th, 2003, 10:59 PM
Here at Taiwan, we are 13 hours ahead of you guys in USA, so I got an early surprise - the enter button.

http://www.supree.com/2a.gif

h88
July 16th, 2003, 11:00 PM
That is impossible!! :o :o

Alex
July 16th, 2003, 11:01 PM
ah crap, i tried to set the clock ahead on my computer to see if that would work. but it didnt :(

ahmed
July 16th, 2003, 11:04 PM
i think it depends on the time on the server.. they wouldn't be dumb and release it earlier in different spots :-\

mdipi
July 16th, 2003, 11:05 PM
yeah i know, no way is that real...they are gonna stream it live...

thoriphes
July 16th, 2003, 11:08 PM
Less than 4 hours, my friends...it's coming.

Alex
July 16th, 2003, 11:08 PM
the screen shot looks edited to me.

Alex
July 16th, 2003, 11:10 PM
i wont be able to be here for the grand opening, i have summer school tomorrow:(

prstudio
July 16th, 2003, 11:15 PM
i love 2a's intro work tho for the company's...i got tired of reading the 6 pages of this thing, and just posted no matter what the current topic was so...

mdipi
July 16th, 2003, 11:15 PM
yeah i might not stay up for it...but i will see it later 2m, i want to avoid the crowd...

prstudio
July 16th, 2003, 11:17 PM
oh and by the way, that count down is running off of their server, not your personal pc...what kind of sense was that editing that screenshot

mdipi
July 16th, 2003, 11:18 PM
lol hehehe. bust!

NeoDreamer
July 16th, 2003, 11:19 PM
It was good while it lasted. :ub:

Xpeder
July 16th, 2003, 11:20 PM
I think you got the tread moveing agen

mdipi
July 16th, 2003, 11:23 PM
yeah, but you edited it right? where can i get that font?

ahmed
July 16th, 2003, 11:25 PM
ahh, supree, i so wanna ban you! :bad:

NeoDreamer
July 16th, 2003, 11:25 PM
I didn't get that font. I copied and pasted existing letters to form "ENTER."

Xpeder
July 16th, 2003, 11:26 PM
thats why the R looks bad

Alex
July 16th, 2003, 11:26 PM
you copied the enter button to...


:P:P:P

mdipi
July 16th, 2003, 11:35 PM
lol didnt even notice, i still want that font...hmm i gotta make anew one for flash...:-\

Alex
July 16th, 2003, 11:48 PM
only 3hrs and 11 min...

i really want to see it. this site will probally blow me off of my chair.

mdipi
July 17th, 2003, 12:00 AM
i am not going to wait for it, i wont get in or i wont see it on the mac, so 2m morning, i will look on the PC...

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 12:01 AM
Episode I anyone?

There's no way it's going to live up to even 1/10000th of your expectations, and as such, it will be seen as a failure.

Which is exactly why you don't enlist Bacardi and have a massive rave to unveil your stinkin' website. I mean, come on - what kind of massive ego trip does it take to coordinate something like this? For a website?

I remember when Segway was unveiled, a truly remarkable piece of machinery that was ingenius in it's every molecule. However, because the whole What is IT? angle had been played up so heavily, most people just went, "So what?"

Don't be surprised if the same thing happens. Lightning rarely strikes twice ;)

:pope:

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 12:02 AM
why wont you be able to get in, is there a limited amount of people bein allowed in?

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 12:04 AM
I think he's worried about bandwidth, and the server being over crowded.

However, with the hype this is being given, I'm quite sure MT has them covered :D

:pope:

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 12:15 AM
oh alright.. i might have to check it out if i have nothing else to do.. eh

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 02:28 AM
30 min to go. I"m going to leave the counter up on my screen now to see what happens when it hits zero.

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Interesting Idea! I'll join' ya :D

:pope:

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 02:45 AM
15 min oohhhhhhh lol
:P

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 02:52 AM
no 8 minutes now...slowly getting there :)

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 02:53 AM
seven

ahmed
July 17th, 2003, 02:54 AM
five..

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 02:55 AM
five

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 02:55 AM
4:45

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 02:55 AM
haha...this is the countdown....not quite 4 yet ;)

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 02:56 AM
lol the count down is geting popular. Every body ready for it:thumb:

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 02:56 AM
3:30...my email is overflowing now with ppl counting down :)

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 02:57 AM
3:00

Why do i get the felling we should hear a "happy new site":P

NaliWarCow
July 17th, 2003, 02:57 AM
http://www.kirupa.com/me/images/spam2_bg.gif

VisualAid
July 17th, 2003, 02:58 AM
1:30 !!!!!

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 02:58 AM
haha ...1:40

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 02:59 AM
either you're fast...or i'm slow hehe...1:10

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 02:59 AM
do u think we will have to refresh at zero. WOnder how man yppl are watching.

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 02:59 AM
final minute
im scared mommy

Raydred
July 17th, 2003, 02:59 AM
YAY ALMOST HERE!

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 02:59 AM
yes...someone go check other forums! 30 seconds

Raydred
July 17th, 2003, 03:00 AM
3
2
1

Happy 2advanced Day! hehe

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 03:00 AM
its taking **** long to load

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 03:00 AM
there is nothing there:run:

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 03:01 AM
overloaded.. ahhhhhh

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 03:01 AM
its not working....

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 03:01 AM
OMG did it crash?

Cna't find server

Where my predictions true?:!:

DariusMonsef
July 17th, 2003, 03:01 AM
nice um... page not found??

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 03:02 AM
Bah, that sucks I:-)

:pope:

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 03:02 AM
glad i waited for this.. this blows

VisualAid
July 17th, 2003, 03:02 AM
CRASHED w00t!!!!! there not ready yet.!

Raydred
July 17th, 2003, 03:02 AM
aww... 404 error.. lol must had overloaded the server lol

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 03:02 AM
??! i type 2advanced.com and it comes to kirupaforum....

DariusMonsef
July 17th, 2003, 03:03 AM
yeah it's 3am... I waited for this?

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 03:03 AM
I wonder if they're freakin' out, screamin' at each other trying to get it fixed ;)

:pope:

NaliWarCow
July 17th, 2003, 03:03 AM
blue, i'm sure they were ready before they even started the countdown. You don't make one of the best flash sites on the net in under 3 days. MT just can't handle all the people loading the page at the exact same second.

Raydred
July 17th, 2003, 03:03 AM
I spent the last 3 days camped out at the internet cafe!!!!! FOR WHAT A 404 ERROR?

... =*(

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 03:03 AM
there we go


IT is running very slow. but it is there.

ahmed
July 17th, 2003, 03:03 AM
I SEE IT!!

I LOVE the water waves effect!!

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 03:03 AM
I think the page is really there, it's just too advanced for us so we can't comprehend it's greatness.

DariusMonsef
July 17th, 2003, 03:04 AM
Media Temple doesn't seem to be having problems, so I think it's their code that is messed up

VisualAid
July 17th, 2003, 03:05 AM
I love it just wait till the counter comes back up.

Raydred
July 17th, 2003, 03:05 AM
lol

I think they have a cap on how many users really can access it lol

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 03:05 AM
Someone who can see it should take screencaps for us poor souls who can't and are waiting to see the Messiah.Web.Site

;)

:pope:

ahmed
July 17th, 2003, 03:06 AM
http://24.141.60.208/2a.jpg

lostinbeta
July 17th, 2003, 03:06 AM
GRRRR

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 03:07 AM
manly browser ahmed :beam:
you can only see it cuz your a mod i bet

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 03:07 AM
the sub moduels arent loading. I can see the main page but can't navigate. Looks really good. Nothing what i was expecting.

I cna't belive it is crashing hte server like this. I knew the ywouldnt' properly prepare.

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 03:07 AM
wow ****...that looks nice...all i get is the counter now though..

Xpeder
July 17th, 2003, 03:07 AM
it hit zero the nmy pop up blocker got the page and then it just reloaded another window and the nkeeps openingthe same window that relodes it self the cycle of death

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 03:08 AM
its workign!

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 03:08 AM
The animation better r0><0rz, cause the design is extremely underwhelming :pirate:

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 03:08 AM
This is what it looks like guys

The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

Click the Refresh button, or try again later.

If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.

To check your connection settings, click the Tools menu, and then click Internet Options. On the Connections tab, click Settings. The settings should match those provided by your local area network (LAN) administrator or Internet service provider (ISP).
If your Network Administrator has enabled it, Microsoft Windows can examine your network and automatically discover network connection settings.
If you would like Windows to try and discover them,
click Detect Network Settings
Some sites require 128-bit connection security. Click the Help menu and then click About Internet Explorer to determine what strength security you have installed.
If you are trying to reach a secure site, make sure your Security settings can support it. Click the Tools menu, and then click Internet Options. On the Advanced tab, scroll to the Security section and check settings for SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0.
Click the Back button to try another link.



Cannot find server or DNS Error
Internet Explorer

h88
July 17th, 2003, 03:09 AM
I got it first, then it gave a Gateway Timeout msg...the server is just overloaded, let us wait for a couple of mins..

VisualAid
July 17th, 2003, 03:09 AM
Mine is loading now i am getting ready to rip it :).

UncleGuito
July 17th, 2003, 03:09 AM
SWEET!!
i LOVE IT
im not sure the colors are good but the naimation is aweomse!

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 03:09 AM
Has any one got a sub module to come up yet. All i get is 0% loading. Most ppl cant' access the main pagethe serve is so bogged down and if u can you cna't get a sub to load casue of the hits commingto the server. WOW i wonder if this is happening at the launch party too:!:

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 03:09 AM
wow never seen a better red colored site

VisualAid
July 17th, 2003, 03:10 AM
and mine's crashed again....

ahmed
July 17th, 2003, 03:11 AM
the transitions are killer! :)

Raydred
July 17th, 2003, 03:11 AM
What does it all mean though...? I mean do we exist to create flash, or do we create flash to exist?.....

hehehe jk

lostinbeta
July 17th, 2003, 03:11 AM
I still see nothing :(

NaliWarCow
July 17th, 2003, 03:12 AM
oh, it's ahmed. Mr. "I can surf the site fine while everybody else gets the this page can't be displayed error". I'm just gonna wait an hour and try then. Hopefully some people will have gone to sleep by then.

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 03:12 AM
**** i refreshed and lost everything.

DDD
July 17th, 2003, 03:12 AM
hey I cannot get to it. Has anyone seen 2a's new site yet? Getting some errors and crap....www.2advanced.com

teet
July 17th, 2003, 03:12 AM
i got an error at first too...then i actually saw the page

not too shabby...it was too wide to fit onto my 1024x768 screen (which is really annoying)...i guess they're trying to make a statement about the screen resolution debate???

i got ticked off after awhile and left b/c nothing was loading (too much traffic) once i got on the page. i don't particularly like the color scheme. it might grow on me though.

-teet

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 03:13 AM
What it means to me is that "a website is a website is a website" - even if it's good ;)

Part of me was hoping for some crazy new paradigm on how to surf a website; someone actually breaking the "panel/column" concept that we've had since Yahoo! launched all those years ago. People have tried, but no one's done it successfully.

As bright as these blokes seem to be, my desire was that they may have solved the problem. I'm excited about the transitions, however, and can't wait to finally see them :D

:pope:

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 03:13 AM
i got in.. meh

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 03:13 AM
The transitions that i saw where awsome. THe water on the main page is smooth. The red and teal are a neat combo. It isnt' a nig 3d interface which is nice.

h88
July 17th, 2003, 03:13 AM
It worked on my end, OMG it looks really cool IMO..

UncleGuito
July 17th, 2003, 03:13 AM
yea the sub module doenst load

ahmed
July 17th, 2003, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by NaliWarCow
oh, it's ahmed. Mr. "I can surf the site fine while everybody else gets the this page can't be displayed error". :evil:

VisualAid
July 17th, 2003, 03:14 AM
MINE IS FULLY LOADED!!¬

UncleGuito
July 17th, 2003, 03:14 AM
mine too sweEETTTT

lostinbeta
July 17th, 2003, 03:15 AM
I see it now!!!!

But no subsections are loading :(

So far so great though :)

DariusMonsef
July 17th, 2003, 03:15 AM
meh... I'm not impressed.

VisualAid
July 17th, 2003, 03:15 AM
i love it but i dont think it's AMAZING!

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 03:15 AM
they work after a long time wait anything else works again :-\

UncleGuito
July 17th, 2003, 03:16 AM
i dont like the colors still but the animations are sweey!

nobody
July 17th, 2003, 03:16 AM
meh.. It's this or harry potter
Hogwarts, here I come

VisualAid
July 17th, 2003, 03:16 AM
HAPPY NEW 2ADVANCED DAY!!!!

ahmed
July 17th, 2003, 03:17 AM
it's not about the interface only :-\

the site uses Flash Remoting and Flash Communication MX.. the technologies they use DO count i guess :)

Raydred
July 17th, 2003, 03:18 AM
im having trouble getting all the rabbits in the pen.. anyone else?/.... am i on the right site?? *looks around*

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 03:18 AM
woo everyones looking at this thread...

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 03:18 AM
Finally :)

The animations are nice, but nothing that hasn't been seen before - done by both them and others. I've actually come across two websites today which had transitions I felt were significantly stronger, though the designs themselves weren't nearly as good.

The little "faux buttons" beside the panel titles are annoying in their misleading nature.

Overall, it's a website :goatee:

Raydred
July 17th, 2003, 03:18 AM
bluetuna, my thoughts exactly =)

UncleGuito
July 17th, 2003, 03:19 AM
i think its nice exept the colors, i wanna check out the wallpapers and teh new CGI demo reel

NeoDreamer
July 17th, 2003, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by sintax321
**** i refreshed and lost everything.

ditto ;(

teet
July 17th, 2003, 03:19 AM
there was all this hype and build up for this site...which is the best flash site i have ever seen mind you...but they kind of set themselves up for a let down. i liked the old one better.

-teet

UncleGuito
July 17th, 2003, 03:21 AM
yea i think the old on might be better, but im not through checking this out

teet
July 17th, 2003, 03:21 AM
but i do have to give them props for at least trying some different colors...i get so sick of blue and grey all the time

-teet

bleutuna
July 17th, 2003, 03:21 AM
Has anyone gotten the other skins to work? I'm trying to activate Chrome Oxidized...and there goes my connection to the site ;)

:pope:

NeoDreamer
July 17th, 2003, 03:22 AM
Man, don't judge it just yet. Most of the parts of the site don't work right now.

UncleGuito
July 17th, 2003, 03:22 AM
it died all of a sudden

blah-de-blah
July 17th, 2003, 03:23 AM
yes the new color is nice

UncleGuito
July 17th, 2003, 03:23 AM
uhh...no i hate the green in it

sintax321
July 17th, 2003, 03:25 AM
I liked that green in there.

teet
July 17th, 2003, 03:26 AM
Man, don't judge it just yet. Most of the parts of the site don't work right now.

good point...

-teet