some real dumb*****es

[turkey]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/08/10/stun.attacks.ap/index.html

[Voetsjoeba]

"Talking about America's dumbest criminals ..."

[thoriphes]

haha, serves them right.

jeez, the way television can corrupt today's youth :sigh:

[kirupa]

I feel bad for the homeless people who have to worry about psycho kids as well as.....being homeless :sleep:

[reverendflash]

well, it is more humane that pouring gasoline on them and lighting them on fire...

but I feel the same way as you Kirupa...

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[thoriphes]

Originally posted by reverendflash
well, it is more humane that pouring gasoline on them and lighting them on fire...

but I feel the same way as you Kirupa...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif rev, i was never a fan of the saying, "Kick em while they're down"

This is exactly what these kids did. It is morally wrong.

[reverendflash]

sick puppies

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[kirupa]

I think the best punishment would be to let the homeless guy stay in their kids' homes for a week, and let the kids stay in the homeless guy's home (or lack of one). That will teach the parents to pay more attention to what their kids are doing, and that will also teach the kids that it's not fun when a homeless guy driving their parents' cars shoots them with a stun gun :)

[reverendflash]

shoot, just let the homeless guy stay 1 week in the family truckster... you'll never get that smell out, so they will remember what they did as long as they own that car...

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[El_Thierro]

I think they should force those kids to participate in an old-fashioned "bum fight". That oughta teach them :P

[Soul]

Sometimes it's homeless peoples fault that they're homeless :sleep:

- Soul :s:

[dudeman]

Yea.. they realize that after they ruined their lives..

[reverendflash]

blame should not be a part of the equation...

let's try to solve the problem, not just cover up the symptom...

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[turkey]

Originally posted by reverendflash
blame should not be a part of the equation...

let's try to solve the problem, not just cover up the symptom...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif
What are you trying to say?

[reverendflash]

the fact is, they are homeless.

blaming someone as to why they are homeless does very little good at all for either the homeless person, or the person pointing the finger.

JMO

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[Soul]

What about a guy in a toilet cubicle dying from an overdose, you gonna feel sorry for him too?

- Soul :s:

[reverendflash]

every life is sacred.

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[Soul]

I don't believe that

[mdipi]

<- sad. you know, i was brought up respecting everybody, no matter what the social status. this is out raging..

[reverendflash]

then we differ in opinions.

I feel that every life on this planet is worth the same amount as every other one.

I hope neither one of us has to make that decision...

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[Soul]

Oh I hope you're not thinking I'm saying the thign with the stun guns was right!! I'm just talking about where you feel sorry for them for being homeless.

- Soul :s:

[turkey]

So Saddam Hussein's life is as sacred as Mother Theresa's was?
I think not.

[Coppertop]

I would just like to add that they are stupid for leaving all the evidence behind.

To be honest, I wouldn't be suprised if alchohal was involved in this.

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by Soul
Oh I hope you're not thinking I'm saying the thign with the stun guns was right!! I'm just talking about where you feel sorry for them for being homeless.

- Soul :s:

I don't feel sorry for them, I just respect the fact that they are alive.

and I don't feel any one life is more valuable than others. All life is sacred.

JMO tho.

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[Soul]

I'm sure you could choose between someone you love and Saddam

- Soul :s:

[thoriphes]

I think the best punishment is for the homeless guy(s) to use the stun gun on the kids.

[Soul]

Oooo whats counting down? ;)

[Coppertop]

release of a new *NEW* website? one that has more *MORE* perhaps?

123.00.00.000

[[Legoman]]

hmmm, well it takes the time from the users clock, so it'll hit 0 at different times for different people.

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by Soul
I'm sure you could choose between someone you love and Saddam

- Soul :s:

my point being, is that we shouldn't have to choose that someone dies...

that is all.

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[Soul]

And my point being that not everyone is equal :)

[reverendflash]

as I said, there we differ.

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[Soul]

:bad: But if you had to choose you could! So obviously those two people aren't equal :bad:

[reverendflash]

no, I honestly could not choose one life over another.

Sorry, I just know myself, and I couldn't choose.

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[Soul]

Fair enough :)

[Coppertop]

Rev could never be a court judge...

IM KIDDING!

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by Coppertop
Rev could never be a court judge...

IM KIDDING!

for many, many reasons...

:beam:

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[Coppertop]

Good, Im glad you saw the humor in that.

*exhales*

[Soul]

lol @ everyone being careful around the mods

[reverendflash]

believe it or not, I do not have a quick temper.

However, I don't suffer fools well...

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[NaliWarCow]

careful around the mods? i'll show you carefult around the mods.

SMACKS REVERENDFLASH (THE LAMEOID) WITH THE BIGGEST TROUT EVER.

j/k rev :P.

[Soul]

Hehe Nali you shatpank

[Coppertop]

Originally posted by reverendflash
believe it or not, I do not have a quick temper.

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif


And then, there is me.


Hey, can I ask you a-

NO! COME ANY CLOSER AND I WILL RIP YOUR F*#$ING HEAD OFF AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ***!

Ok, slight exadgeration, but you get the idea.

[NaliWarCow]

i might be insulted if I knew what a shatpank is. Ignorance is bliss :).

[[Legoman]]

well, rev, I still don't belive that if you were forced choose between the life of your child and the life of someone who had indecently abused your child, then you wouldn't be able to choose.

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by NaliWarCow
careful around the mods? i'll show you carefult around the mods.

SMACKS REVERENDFLASH (THE LAMEOID) WITH THE BIGGEST TROUT EVER.

j/k rev :P.

I wonder how Nali feels about....






oh, I don't know, say PINK

:beam:

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[reverendflash]

Originally posted by [Legoman]
well, rev, I still don't belive that if you were forced choose between the life of your child and the life of someone who had indecently abused your child, then you wouldn't be able to choose.

I chose not to have any children. And not to be rude, but I really don't care if anyone doesn't believe me, because I do, and I'm who matters to me...

I don't hold grudges, and I don't live in the past...

If you've never met anyone like me, I'm not surprised.

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[Soul]

Originally posted by NaliWarCow
i might be insulted if I knew what a shatpank is. Ignorance is bliss :). It's my word :love:

[nobody]

I think it is insane that these kids did that.. it's horrible

Why don't you guys believe Rev? Just because his thought pattern isn't a common one among people it's admirable and I believe him.

Also, shatpank, awesome word

[[Legoman]]

don't worry rev, I've met plenty.
my thought is that, even if you value a life as equal to any other life, never mind the past, there are other things to consider, like the future. what potential damage is there to others from the individual that lives on.

[Soul]

Originally posted by xxviii
Also, shatpank, awesome word Thanks, shout it, it feels good

[reverendflash]

it still doesn't justify taking a life.

if we are to judge on damage one does to another as to whether someone lives or dies, then I suggest we start at birth.

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[Coppertop]

SHATPANK!

im done...

[Soul]

Now you feel diry dontcha ;)

[[Legoman]]

we were talking about a hypothetical situation were you have to choose though.
and I'm not even going to respond to the starting at birth comment since I'm sure you're smart enough to realise the difference.

[reverendflash]

I could not make the choice.

I will not choose death.

ever.

My mother did. Her mother did. I won't.

for anyone.

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[turkey]

Why don't you guys believe Rev? Just because his thought pattern isn't a common one among people it's admirable and I believe him.



Believe him? Sure, I believe he is being honest that he values all life equally. I respect that opinion. I just don't agree with it :)

[reverendflash]

Originally posted by sushis
Believe him? Sure, I believe he is being honest that he values all life equally. I respect that opinion. I just don't agree with it :)

I said all life is sacred, not equal.

If I thought all life was equal, it would tear me up just to see my lifestyle in comparison to others... I think that is an unrealistic view.

But no one deserves to die, in my opinion, and I couldn't choose for anyone to die.

I did a lot of soul-searching on this. I used to own several assault rifles (none mod'd), carry a 357 m in a shoulder holster at all times outside my door, and other "toys." I made my decision based on my views of the world.

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[[Legoman]]

okay, I'm not gonna push this any further, I just find it so frustrating when people refuse to enter into the simple rules of a hypothetical situation, but instead choose to espouse a supposedly "admirable" stance by just saying "I couldn't choose", and try to hold the moral high-ground. no one ever said "I think this person deserves to die". I'm outta this thread.

[reverendflash]

but if I couldn't choose, then by playing your little scenario out, I would have to choose. I choose to not engage in your hypothetical situation because the rules as setup are fallable. The rules you chose assume I am able to make a choice, so therefore they are moot.

How about this: I will not choose!

you don't have to like it, you just have to understand I believe it.

relax, this isn't going to change the color of the sky tomorrow.

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[RelandR]

The comparisons of
'should we consider the lives of junkies dieing in the stall or the homeless who've *possibly* contributed to their own condition' as worthy of respect as human beings
-to-
the hypothetical 'What would you do if a loved one was in terrible danger - could you take life of the predator ?'

....is ludicrous.... there is no relation between the two :sure:

for the first one, no one except the individual to whom this is happening really knows all there is to know about how it got that far. Care must be taken when judging as one day when you least expect it ... there you are .... and an ounce of compassion may be all it takes to start to undo the whole mess.

Those kids were heartless little Pr!cks with a cavalier disregard for other people that is quite disturbing ... let me have 'em for a week :evil:

[turkey]

Reland, good point. This thread has gone way off topic.

[Niann]

No living person has the right to take the life of another.

Or at least thats the way I see things.

Cheers!
-Niann