View Full Version : why do think metal hates emo?
pobi
August 28th, 2008, 09:17 AM
can you please tell me one good answer for this question please thanks. :-/
TheCanadian
August 28th, 2008, 09:37 AM
Because everything hates emo?
Templarian
August 28th, 2008, 09:45 AM
^Perfectly said :fab:
DanontheMoon
August 28th, 2008, 10:42 AM
Because emo bands drop the soap.
paddy.
August 28th, 2008, 05:05 PM
On purpose.
Wait, I have nothing against emo bands.
ShadowViper
August 28th, 2008, 05:32 PM
Well, I think there are several reasons. The main reason in my mind, is the perceived homosexuality of emos (and in my experience, they come off as gay whether they are or not). Since metal is such a macho, manly genre of music, it is understandable that many of it's fans would have homophobic tendencies.
Another reason would be the fact that most emos don't really give a crap about the emotional **** they preach and are only following the latest fashion trend and trying to be cool. I personally think this is no different than all of the 'preppy' popular people Emos tend to hate. I personally find this the worst part, so damn hypocritical.
I believe that there is a difference between being a depressed teen (especially if it is actual depression, not just moodiness) and an emo. Emo is more of a fashion trend statement, whereas depressed teens often end up with the label of being emo and get persecuted for it.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents. I obviously put more thought into this than anyone else, but I was bored :P
(This was all referring to teens because they are what I have experience with. Besides emo bands, I don't really know of many adult emos, andf they aren't even really adults either)
fester8542
August 28th, 2008, 05:36 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l296/yourmomsblack/Emo.jpg
ShadowViper
August 28th, 2008, 05:38 PM
lol fester, that pretty much sums emo up :P
saxx
August 30th, 2008, 11:00 PM
Everybody hates awsomeness
theres several different types of emo.
Most of them are worth hating. Though you should probably get to know a person before you pass any final judgement. Because some emos are teh awsomeness :D
Most people that consider themselves emo, just sit around and listen to lame pop-rock.
urban dictionary, number six
"Emo" is not short for "Emotional." "Emo" does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, despite what MTV has lead you to believe in the last few years. "Emo" is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships. "Emo" is not the use of diluted, meaningless metaphors and similes such as "My arms are like pinecones," and most definitely is not the rampant use of words such as "autumn," "heart," "knife," "bleeding," "leaves," and "razorblade."
I just thought I'd clear that up after all of these "definitions" in which I have encountered an unbelievable amount of people who try to pass off their blatantly false pretenses as fact, and are slowly infecting others with their high-horse, holier-than-thou bull****. Because honestly, with your ridiculous definitions, Beethoven, George Gershwin, and Britney Spears are/was "emo bands."
Now, onto the real definition.
In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as "Emotive Hardcore," spearheaded by Rites Of Spring. Harder-core-than-thou kids, who swore by Dischord Records a la Minor Threat, actually coined the term "Emo" as something of a put-down for the kids who really liked Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and this new wave of "Emotive" Hardcore bands. That's right, "Emo" was once not something kids called themselves. The field exploded outwards from there - Level-Plane Records has always been the most famous Emo label. Acts like Yaphet Kotto, I Hate Myself, Saetia, Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, You And I, and hosts of others came in the next decade. Most emo bands have since broken up, but there's still the occasional hold-out (again, the majority of Level-Plane Records' roster has been a procession of emo acts). Like most DIY hardcore/punk of the time, a majority found its way onto vinyl and not much else. Some people consider bands like Fugazi, and later Sunny Day Real Estate, a progression of emo, but personally, I don't quite follow that philosophy.
Often, more recently, this gets intertwined with post-hardcore, and understandably so - that's nothing to make an issue of, since well ****, at least it's close.
Since the late 90s, though, bands have been emerging in the vein of Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessional, and the thousands of their clones. As far as I can tell, some lazy journalist somewhere, writing an article about them, decided "Well, ****, no one knows what emo is anyways, so I'll call these bands "emo" - sounds more appealing than bubblegum pop rock..." and the spiral continued downwards into the current amalgomation of bands MTV has told everyone is "emo."
Somehow, people decided that "emo" meant "emotional," which is obviously bull****, as 99% of bands make music to illicit emotion, which would make "emotional" a completely all-encompassing genre from classical to opera to pop to rap.
Hope that helps.
Taking Back Sunday, Senses Fail, and My Chemical Romance falls under the "horrible pop rock" genre, not the emo genre.
Rites of Spring is emo.
TheCanadian
August 30th, 2008, 11:07 PM
I hate emo's so much I'm not going to read that.
Templarian
August 31st, 2008, 12:57 AM
A shirt that The Onion sells says it the best:
http://store.theonion.com/images/get/246/thumb
graylensman
August 31st, 2008, 02:02 AM
Metal hates emo because emo is a shaggy red monster with an annoying voice - wait. That's Elmo. Sorry.
BS
August 31st, 2008, 02:06 AM
Because emo bands drop the soap.
Like Prisoners!
Please dont hurt me
Templarian
August 31st, 2008, 02:14 AM
Ever have that feeling that some peoples brains are just a tad bit on the emulated side. :lol:
every things there it just takes a bit longer to put it all together
REEFˇ
August 31st, 2008, 02:35 AM
Rofl @ saxx for pulling an educational session on emos.
I hate life :sad:
graylensman
September 4th, 2008, 12:53 PM
In Soviet Russia, life hates YOU!!!
randomagain
September 4th, 2008, 01:07 PM
soft targets?
grunge music is bad
shane-c
September 4th, 2008, 01:21 PM
Interesting post saxx... I didn't know that.
Of course, regardless of who's fault it is (some lazy journalist, or otherwise) "emo" means something different to you than it does to most people. When I say emo, I'm talking about the trendy side-banged, tight-pantsed kids that try so hard to come off a certain way. And I'm pretty sure that's how most other people define it, too.
So, I guess it sucks for you that they stole your word and made it something terrible. You are absolutely right about not passing judgment on people - and while I wouldn't presume to know somebody just by looking at them, I really can't help thinking that they look ridiculous, and their general attitudes annoy the **** out of me.
GrndMasterFlash
September 4th, 2008, 06:01 PM
i went to a punk show once, well i thought it was a punk show and it turned out to be an emo type show, the first band was the best, the second band sucked and i had to leave after hear a little of the headlining band because they were horrible, i found my self asking why do people want to listen to music about feeling insignificant? on the way home i blazed the reggae to counter act the bad emo messages.
moral of the story, just listen to reggae.
graylensman
September 10th, 2008, 12:31 PM
Reggae - spliff < Reggae + spliff.
This I know.
ShadowViper
September 10th, 2008, 11:07 PM
...
i found my self asking why do people want to listen to music about feeling insignificant? on the way home i blazed the reggae to counter act the bad emo messages.
...
Well, I have to say that I understand that part a bit. When I'm angry, I listen to angry music, when I'm happy, I listen to happy music, When I'm sad I listen to sad music. (and since most of my music is angry, I often listen to that whatever mood I'm in, but I prefer music that matches my mood :P) I suppose emos all just feel insignificant, so they listen to indignificant feeling music. lol
saxx
September 11th, 2008, 03:40 AM
While we are making fun of peoples 'things'. Whats with foot fetishes eh? I never got them, sounds gross to me
TheCanadian
September 11th, 2008, 04:18 AM
Well the foot is the most beautiful part of the body - next to the sternum.
Did anyone else learn how to spell beautiful from Bruce Almighty?
saxx
September 11th, 2008, 04:21 AM
B-e-a-u-tiful
I think i did
Jiruharudo
September 11th, 2008, 05:00 AM
A shirt that The Onion sells says it the best:
http://store.theonion.com/images/get/246/thumb
I have to agree with Templarian here.
People don't really have to be differant in my opinion ..but ..to but them in labled boxes..
DanontheMoon
September 12th, 2008, 12:58 PM
Surely you get the humor in that.
graylensman
September 12th, 2008, 01:45 PM
IPeople don't really have to be differant in my opinion ..but ..to but them in labled boxes..
Then you're not sure if the people are alive or not. Schrodinger's crowd...
BS
September 12th, 2008, 06:59 PM
I think the cat is dead.
graylensman
September 13th, 2008, 01:29 AM
Oh, the cat is definitely dead. Too many people in the box, now.
BS
September 14th, 2008, 01:56 AM
I think I got poisoned.
Jiruharudo
September 16th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Surely you get the humor in that.
Ofcourse.
But in all seriousness I don't understand the fact why people are so proud to call themselves a steriotype and kinda ..box themselves.
But hey, if it makes people feel good about themselves I'm ok with it.
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