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randomagain
June 24th, 2008, 06:52 AM
Newbies tend to post questions in forums like the source/code section.

I think newbies should be restricted, like unable to start a thread in that forum until 10 posts or something.

Pasquale
June 24th, 2008, 09:06 AM
it would kinda mean they'd spam 10 annoying questions just to post a regular one which could suck.

Also Jenkins likes to drop his down to nothing, so his account might freak out.

randomagain
June 24th, 2008, 09:19 AM
ok a trial of fire and ice to prove thier worthiness to post

present members do not have to do the trial lol

Templarian
June 24th, 2008, 10:04 AM
This has been suggested numerous times and has always been denied. Good luck though.

fasterthanlight™
June 24th, 2008, 10:33 AM
Newbies are newbies,

restrict their access, and they'll find new ways to be newbies, you can't stop them, its best to just embrace them for who they are as people :)

prg9
June 25th, 2008, 07:52 PM
low post count = restricted access....
Newbies tend to post...
I think newbies should be restricted....

I cant help but comment.

randomagain when reading your posts you at times yourself apear to be a newbie. I am not questioning your coding or knowledge. But what I mean regarding newbie, is all the unrelated nonsense in +80% of your posts. You may want to consider this and make more accurate posts without all the extra curricular items, silly comments and useless banter that you usually post whether providing help or not. I am not trying to be mean, but it really is pointless and not helping anyone.

Again no offense randomagain, but something you may wish to consider.

Gundark
June 25th, 2008, 08:32 PM
It's not like there is overwhelming problem of people new to this forum posting in the wrong place. Just help them out and tell them where the best place to post would be. If need be the moderators can move the post to the correct forum.

There are already plenty of elitist, clique-ish, anti-newbie forums. We don't need to turn this into one of those.

How is anybody supposed to learn anything if they are restricted from asking questions and making mistakes?

FYI - a high post count doesn't make you anymore knowledgeable or cooler.

sekasi
June 25th, 2008, 08:52 PM
I find the idea of trying to block New users from getting introduced to a new forum by getting information/help to be pretty moronic.

The whole point of a community is to be.... SHAZAM a community.

Templarian
June 26th, 2008, 09:27 AM
Most forums just have it set up so one cannot post links for the first 10 posts. This appears to be the best solution and does not limit newbies greatly... but would reject posts with links newbies will fix it spammers may just move on.

fasterthanlight™
June 26th, 2008, 10:45 AM
Yea this "restricted access" thing is ONLY good for spammers.

and this "no links thing" will pretty much throw the entire clientside forum into chaos.

This is just one of those ideas that seems like an awesome idea on paper, but would never get implemented because it makes the forum less accessible.

redelite
June 26th, 2008, 11:47 AM
I personally don't think that is a good idea. Take me for example, I have been a member since Nov of 2005 and I only had 2 posts up until about a month or two ago. I usually just enjoy reading threads, but recently I've been helping others out. But if that restriction was in place, then what if I needed help with say some AS3 code, I wouldn't be able to post JUST solely on the fact that I don't have 10 posts? Obviously then, I would be inclined to just go post randomly on 10 threads so I would be able to post my question.

The real source of the problem is people not using "Search" before they post and/or don't even bother to try and read the stickies. But as others has said, it would cause more chaos if you required a new member to have 10 posts before they can start a thread. I personally think there should be more emphasis on utilizing the "Search" before posting. But again, that's just my opinion. :|

randomagain
June 27th, 2008, 11:15 AM
no one reads stickies!!!

kill them all.

prg9
June 27th, 2008, 11:38 AM
no one reads stickies!!! kill them all.

:stare:

Another example of:
http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2338000&postcount=3

Not just my opinion either - http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2349955&postcount=3

:td:

randomagain
June 30th, 2008, 07:35 AM
wow 2 posts, now lets count the ones where I help people ;P

I mean you wouldn't have a leg to stand on if I didn't purposely give you an opportunity

*cough*

prg9
June 30th, 2008, 10:29 AM
wow 2 posts, now lets count the ones where I help people

Well anyone can look through your posts and access for themselves. I am sure anyone whom does will see "the extra curricular items, silly comments and useless banter that you usually post whether providing help or not."


I mean you wouldn't have a leg to stand on if I didn't purposely give you an opportunity

Seems like most your posts provide this opportunity, again one would merely need to read through your posts to see this.

randomagain
June 30th, 2008, 10:50 AM
I force noobies to read posts and take things one step at a time, if thats what you mean

I stick "spammer" in my subtitle and you've been on my case since

prg9
June 30th, 2008, 11:01 AM
I force noobies to read posts and take things one step at a time, if thats what you mean. I stick "spammer" in my subtitle and you've been on my case since

Dude you know what I mean, no need to try and play it off. As I said in post #6


"Again no offense randomagain, but something you may wish to consider."

randomagain
June 30th, 2008, 11:52 AM
I was up all night after drinking 1l of lucozade, don't *twitches* don't mess with man. ;P

By the end of august I will be asking all the stupid questions....again.

claudio
June 30th, 2008, 01:14 PM
@randomagain:

I've read the whole thread and yet don't understand why you want to restrict acess to new members.

Your idea defeats the first purpose of this community, that was to provide a place for kirupa's site visitors to discuss and get answers to their questions.
If a new user finds out that he cannot post his question unless he has reached certain post count, then I'm almost sure he'll never come back again.

Anogar
July 1st, 2008, 01:05 AM
I know my first post here was almost certainly a question, and since then, I suspect I've probably answered many times more questions than I've asked. If I was never able to ask that first question I wouldn't have become a member of the forum, most likely.

Terrible idea. :td:

randomagain
July 1st, 2008, 06:43 AM
I was over ruled two pages ago.... fine

other boards do it...

prg9
July 1st, 2008, 09:00 AM
I was over ruled two pages ago.... fine

2 pages ago? We are just now on page 2 ? Can you post a link to page zero I think I missed it.


other boards do it...

Can you name a few well known, successful ones ?

TheCanadian
July 1st, 2008, 10:57 PM
I think we should have a "stupid posts = restrivted access" rule.

But then I would have no access and nobody wants that.

Templarian
July 1st, 2008, 11:08 PM
^We would have to ask nobody to be sure... but I'm certain he would be fine with it. :fab:

TheCanadian
July 1st, 2008, 11:26 PM
No nobody doesn't want that, but nobody else wants that.

pantas
July 2nd, 2008, 09:26 AM
Muahahahahahaha

pantas
July 2nd, 2008, 09:29 AM
that was to post #15

TheCanadian
July 2nd, 2008, 11:19 AM
Aww, I thought I was funny for a second there.

pantas
July 2nd, 2008, 11:25 AM
yes, were funny, but that post killed me ... hehehh

Gundark
July 2nd, 2008, 12:55 PM
Aww, I thought I was funny for a second there.

Hey, I thought you were funny.

I always enjoy jokes about nobody.

redelite
July 2nd, 2008, 04:13 PM
I know my first post here was almost certainly a question, and since then, I suspect I've probably answered many times more questions than I've asked. If I was never able to ask that first question I wouldn't have become a member of the forum, most likely.

Terrible idea. :td:
+1.. I'm the exact same way.

prg9
July 4th, 2008, 10:07 AM
wow 2 posts, now lets count the ones where I help people. I mean you wouldn't have a leg to stand on if I didn't purposely give you an opportunity

:block:

Another fine example of your posts. Here is a NEW member posting their very first post and this is your response...


So I'm trying to make a tile based game and using xml to import the tile images, so I want to make one MC with the tile in it then duplicate it, but cant seem to find the code to do so. Also, I cant get loadmovie("image") to work over a length of time, any help?


don't bother....

1: try the game forum
2: try recognizing making a game is incredibly hard and usually done by either 1 very clever person, or a bunch of clever people
3: stop being a noob, I've lost count of how many people pratically say "make a game for me, so I can take the credit"

erm sorry I'm on my period

How disparaging, why should that person feel like sticking around or feel welcome here at Kirupa? Let alone waiting 10 posts before posting a question as you have suggested in this thread.

:m:

randomagain
July 9th, 2008, 11:31 AM
you love me really ;P

I don't see how me replying.... or else no one reply would make much difference

I think my reply was better than silence.

lunatic
July 9th, 2008, 11:37 AM
thanks for sharing!