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Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 03:21 PM
i'm making this animation to accompany a dark techno/d&b cd, and it's sposed to be real creepy and disturbing. apparently, i have creepy block or something, cuz i'm at a loss for ideas. so i figured id ask you guys what disturbs you? what kind of images do you think are just weird and scary and disturbing? waht kind of animation styles are just plain whacko? all suggestions are welcome!

thoriphes
July 23rd, 2003, 03:22 PM
is this gonna be for like the enhanced part of the CD?

Raydred
July 23rd, 2003, 03:24 PM
i think odd unordinary things would give it an uneasy feeling,

Im actually pretty weird when it comes to these things, i can create some pretty disturbing images etc.. make you really freak lol

i'd use Dark bkg's and shadows, circus music playing backwards, flashing quickly bright errie images, .. .. distant screams....


=) thats all i can think of right now. =)

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 03:24 PM
yah. enhanced- the animation will be set to one fo the tracks on it
oh, btw, i looove your footer. if i wasnt on 56k right now, i would love it even more. heheh.

Kitiara
July 23rd, 2003, 03:26 PM
You want creepy?

I'm sure Fester will be able to provide something... :)

No offence Fester. :)

thoriphes
July 23rd, 2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by redGolgi
yah. enhanced- the animation will be set to one fo the tracks on it
oh, btw, i looove your footer. if i wasnt on 56k right now, i would love it even more. heheh. thanks :thumb:

so what does dark techno sound like?
also, what's the group's name? it might help with the decision process...

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 03:28 PM
lol..
fester is so uncreepy once you get to know him :(
hes all lovey dovey and sweet. blegh. darn birdlovers

hehejkjk

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by anny-may
thanks :thumb:

so what does dark techno sound like?
also, what's the group's name? it might help with the decision process...

tell kazaa to get you some aphex twin. that's not who this is for, but it's darn close. :beam:

Soul
July 23rd, 2003, 03:37 PM
People with no faces!!! :-\

And distant screams of a far off mental home that has been closed for years!

*runs off*

- Soul :s:

nobody
July 23rd, 2003, 03:37 PM
aphex twin :love:

scary things.. a cactus... with a *gasp* nose!

Soul
July 23rd, 2003, 03:42 PM
*gasp*

fester8542
July 23rd, 2003, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by redGolgi
lol..
fester is so uncreepy once you get to know him :(
hes all lovey dovey and sweet. blegh. darn birdlovers

hehejkjk

Huh?!

Now that I will take offense to!

:skull: :skull:

********

None taken kit :thumb:

fester8542
July 23rd, 2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by redGolgi
i'm making this animation to accompany a dark techno/d&b cd, and it's sposed to be real creepy and disturbing. apparently, i have creepy block or something, cuz i'm at a loss for ideas. so i figured id ask you guys what disturbs you? what kind of images do you think are just weird and scary and disturbing? waht kind of animation styles are just plain whacko? all suggestions are welcome!

I find fast motion video ultra creepy.

Clows, evil carnival kind of things. Dark dead trees in the fog. That kind of thing.

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by fester8542
I find fast motion video ultra creepy.

Clows, evil carnival kind of things. Dark dead trees in the fog. That kind of thing.

excellent!!! fast mo video.. now i gotta figure out how to do that with flash. :)

and no worries, i was just jokin, you are ultra super scary/creepy!

**runs and double locks door
stay away from back bay!!

SureShot
July 23rd, 2003, 03:48 PM
Have you seen the movie "house on haunted hill"

That part where they are looking through the security camera and see the killer dressed up as the doctor and he moves really fast and ... *shivers* that scares the crap outta me! I dont know what it is about that scene.

I would use dark backgrounds, black and awhite images if possible, scratchy lines moving perhaps. The circus music is a great idea, that or little kid sounds, like out of a mobile that would hang over a crib or something (saw it in a video game once)

fester8542
July 23rd, 2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by SureShot
Have you seen the movie "house on haunted hill"

That part where they are looking through the security camera and see the killer dressed up as the doctor and he moves really fast and ... *shivers* that scares the crap outta me! I dont know what it is about that scene.

I would use dark backgrounds, black and awhite images if possible, scratchy lines moving perhaps. The circus music is a great idea, that or little kid sounds, like out of a mobile that would hang over a crib or something (saw it in a video game once)

OMG DUDE!
THat was exactly the scene I was thinking of when I said that!

Golgi, Just run a fast framerate and export your video into stills. Remove a bunch of them and you should be good to go.

I dont want to watch it! For dome reason fast mo video really bugs me out!

Nice! I am creepy again too!

SureShot
July 23rd, 2003, 03:54 PM
hahah that rocks man - I have never talked to anyone who even noticed that part of the movie before. I will be trying to explain it to someone and they are like "what? I dont even remember that... your an idiot"

Hahahaha - I showed them, someone else actually noticed! :)

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 03:54 PM
you guys are all giving great suggestions..

right now this is what i have:
the opening scene is done with a fade in to a vignette with scratchy lines (think old old old film) and there is like warped circusey music playing, with demon thingies dancing in a weird way..

there is some storyline to the thing.. invilving an angel, and some demons, and a fight and some stuff, and i have to check with the dude about soundFX, cuz im not sure if i can use them, but we'll see.. anyway, good suggestions..
erm, i'll try to work in the cactus somehow ;)

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 03:56 PM
oh, can anyone get a clip of that part in house on haunted hill? that would be super cool so i could see what you mean..

fester8542
July 23rd, 2003, 03:56 PM
Dont forget the puppies!

......I mean.... headless man eating decaying baby corpses.

nobody
July 23rd, 2003, 03:57 PM
That sounds really creepy. The cactus part is what's gonna make you millions.

Kitiara
July 23rd, 2003, 03:58 PM
Actually, you want creepy, look at any of the Silent Hill games. Those freak me out totally... :)

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 03:59 PM
HOLY, dudes, i had this REAL freaky dream last night, i'm tryign to use some stuff from that too, but like, everything that attacked me i bashed in its head. i killed like 5 or 6 evil things with my bare hands. it was oddly satisfying.

i think it's cuz im trying to up my hand-to-hand skill in morrowind, so i've been runnign aorund beating on scamps and such

SureShot
July 23rd, 2003, 03:59 PM
Kit - that's where I saw the circus stuff... the merry go round in the first one... crazy!

Also - if you have ever played Shadow man, there is a section where you are in some kind of asylum and all the rooms are bloddy and there are kid laughs and mobile music and stuff through out the entire level... yikes!

Soul
July 23rd, 2003, 04:00 PM
:beam:

Yeah someone find a clip form the film, I dunno what you mean

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Kitiara
Actually, you want creepy, look at any of the Silent Hill games. Those freak me out totally... :)

hey, awesome idea... i'm looking at some stuff now and i just had to call my kitty over for some huggin :beam:

Kitiara
July 23rd, 2003, 04:01 PM
Yeah, the first time I played a Silent Hill game, I thought it would be good to play it late at night with no lights on.

No sleep for me <i>that</i> night. :sure:

They're seriously scary.

Soul
July 23rd, 2003, 04:01 PM
Mental homes really freak me out :( Especially empty ones oddly, if theres sounds though ughh!! :-\

- Soul :s:

nobody
July 23rd, 2003, 04:02 PM
yeah empty hospitals/mental homes that are either really really dark or really really bright scare me... they make me all oogly boogly

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Kitiara
Yeah, the first time I played a Silent Hill game, I thought it would be good to play it late at night with no lights on.

No sleep for me <i>that</i> night. :sure:

They're seriously scary.

lol, that reminds me of when the ring first came out.
i got myself a 6pack and the movie and some munchies and was gonna just spend a night at home in pjs and enjoy the movie...

i sufficiently scared myself into staying awake for 2 nights.. heheh.

Soul
July 23rd, 2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by xxviii
they make me all oogly boogly Stop saying that!! :love:

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 04:29 PM
hey, do any of you guys remember an old old smashing pumpkins video, i think it was done in fast motion a bit,
i'm adding that technique into the opening dancing sequence, but i'd like to have something to mimic,
i dont remember what song it was, but i think it was like mid or late 90's?
or else, does anyone have a clip of something done in fast motion? i have it in my head, but im having a hard time gettign the motions right..
thanks

fester8542
July 23rd, 2003, 04:41 PM
I hate the smashing pumpkins but I think I remember the video for that rat in a cage song.

I think its called "Bullet with butterfly wings"

I might be wrong though.

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 04:42 PM
cool, ill check on that. thanks fester!

sintax321
July 23rd, 2003, 07:15 PM
http://www.brittle-bones.com

This is creepy. Very creepy. This guy is like the king of dark art.

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 08:13 PM
hey guys, hows this for a spooky start?

http://redgolgi.com/temp/joe.html

(preloader just crap stuck on for production)

Soul
July 23rd, 2003, 08:17 PM
That's cool, put some evil little girls laughter on there and maybe make it black and white, it'd be much spookier than having colour :thumb:

- Soul :s:

Illuminae
July 23rd, 2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by sintax321
http://www.brittle-bones.com

This is creepy. Very creepy. This guy is like the king of dark art.

wow, awesome link dude :thumb:

TOOL
July 23rd, 2003, 09:57 PM
I might be a bit late with suggestions but Tool use "weird and freaky" animations/images and project them during their live show. Really cool stuff! :thumb:

Check out these links:
Chet Zar (http://www.chetzar.com)
Dissectional.com (http://www.dissectional.com)
Cam De Leon (http://www.happypencil.com)

Hope they help, you can probably find more links within the Chet Zar and Cam De Leon sites.

:)

sintax321
July 23rd, 2003, 10:04 PM
Ya i was gong to mentio nthe tool videos but i figured iwould leave that for u lol. Those are soem great links. I alwasy wondered who was behind there videos.

nobody
July 23rd, 2003, 10:07 PM
that looks good, but nothing is scarier than a stationary cactus with a nose.. no worries though, it's still freaky

TOOL
July 23rd, 2003, 10:14 PM
Ahh thanks sintax :) Another artist that they use is Alex Grey (http://www.alexgrey.com)(link) but I don't know if his work would be counted as creepy or freaky... pretty trippy stuff though, looks awesome :thumb:

nobody
July 23rd, 2003, 10:25 PM
Ok for all of those who doubted me, tell me this is not the scariest thing ever.

No thanks necessary golgi

TOOL
July 23rd, 2003, 10:30 PM
Oh I don't know if golgi wants to see that... pretty disturbing stuff right there!

I did doubt you xxviii ;)

nobody
July 23rd, 2003, 10:34 PM
:beam:

Kajinku
July 24th, 2003, 03:03 AM
Good start Golgi. :)

Now, let's think... creepy stuff. I don't really know how to put this in a concept, so I'll just name a few things that freaked me out before. Most of the time it's just short moments. Old and unclear sounding circus music that plays on an old gramophone is creepy. Especially when the track hangs, and repeats the same part over and over again.

1) In "The Exorcist", when the little girl is going up the stairs, backwards, and on her back... that's quite disturbing...

http://www.thehoya.com/images/092900/exorcist.jpg

Weird people that do uncommon things is always kinda spooky.

2) Fast moving images, like said before.

3) Maybe not very spooky, but in "Signs", when Mel Gibson explains very calm to his brother that there are 2 kinds of people on this planet. They both sit in the dark, the only light in the room is the TV. There's a closeup on Gibson's face in the dark, and only his eyes are glowing a bit. It's like he's looking in the camera for a moment. :-\

4) In "The Sixth Sense", the kid wakes up and goes for a pee. While doing this, a dead woman passes by, just in front of the camera. The spooky part (when I first saw it) is the "DANG!"-sound when this happens. Shyamalan is a pro in making such moments! :)

Illuminae
July 24th, 2003, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by xxviii
Ok for all of those who doubted me, tell me this is not the scariest thing ever.

No thanks necessary golgi


LOL...

thank you...

for makign me laugh uncontrollably for liek 5 minutes ;)

im sorry, i just... think its more funny then... scary...

soul, i changed it to b&w

everyone else, thanks for more suggestions. im done for the night, maybe ill have scary dreams again.
:thumb:

p.s. scariest scene ever in a movie is in Dr Giggles, when he kills that lady with a stomach pump... omG...