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Millad
July 18th, 2003, 12:12 PM
I was with my friend to a pc shop and tools.
They where selling OS :- Linux 13,2$ and I felt in Love with it when i saw the screenshots and the good things in it :)

I have Win xp and Im very bord of MICROSOFT, I whant something new and cool !!!

What do you think of Linux and shall I buy it or `??

Thanx ;)

btw .- you get the full version and the newest

thoriphes
July 18th, 2003, 12:13 PM
BLAST IT!

you can just download the isos....for free.

check the wuarchive (www.wustl.edu) i believe.

edit: here: http://wuarchive.wustl.edu

Millad
July 18th, 2003, 12:15 PM
your link leads to the site of
Washington University in St.Louis LOL :evil:

mdipi
July 18th, 2003, 12:16 PM
you can get it for free just run a search for red hat. i wanted to a while back, but never did

Millad
July 18th, 2003, 12:17 PM
How to install if ?
And Can I choos between windows and Linux on startup ?

Tell me how because I did not understand the help and how to install linux on redhat.com !

help =)

thoriphes
July 18th, 2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Blastboy
your link leads to the site of
Washington University in St.Louis LOL :evil: um, yeah. you can download it right from their server.

Millad
July 18th, 2003, 12:23 PM
place a link

I press redhat and I choos 8.0 and it gets me there

http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/pub/linux/distributions/redhat/8.0/i386/


Shall I download everything and ?

thoriphes
July 18th, 2003, 12:36 PM
oh i see, those images are just the setup file. I think for the red hat release you'll have to download the actual image/files through the setup.

honestly, i'd stay away from linux. it could hurt your computer and destroy everything you have. what you saw in linux was probably X, their GUI for linux. setting that up is a pain in itself. setting up linux just to run is a completely different story.

senocular
July 18th, 2003, 12:57 PM
X has its problems but Linux is definitely "cool"
If you have an older computer or a spare Id suggest installing it on that and not your primary work/play computer. Things can go wrong (and have for me in the past) and it can take a while to get things back up and running again. Sometimes it can be more of a hassle than its worth, but having a running linux box is great fun too.

Id suggest Mandrake or maybe even Suse (I think Slackware has a easy installer too). RedHat is a goodun but its very enterprise oriented - but also the most popular and probably the most heavily developed. If you do a little research online you can find some good resources on the different distributions and which is good for you, along with what to do and how to do it. Its a geeky system and there are plenty of willing helping eager hands out there to make a linux user out of you yet.

Millad
July 18th, 2003, 01:07 PM
the cd I saw is LINUX and I can run it from the CD and not install !!!

if I whant to install then i can also ?

is that good ?

mlk
July 18th, 2003, 01:29 PM
why are you installing Linux ?

it's mostly for programmers and people who know a lot about shell programming since you have to install everything yourself.
Almost no known software will play. And you'll end up having two different OSes on the same computer, and since Linux harddisk storage is different (better than windows' btw) you'll end up with two 2 hard drives that won't be able to share files between each other...

now if you are an computer ace then go ahead, it's true Linux looks slick and is much more performant than windows. but such a hassle yet...

Millad
July 18th, 2003, 01:33 PM
hmm you have apoint there :)

senocular
July 18th, 2003, 01:34 PM
dont scare him off :P No KNOWN software will play because you dont have Linux to get to know the software with! There are Office clones, photoshop clones, quark clones (ok well not clones but apps that do the same things) as well as a lot of free games out there made by geeks who like writing for the OS. Its something to play with =)

But like I said, use a seperate computer if you have one and having a fully installed linux OS is better than running one off a CD. Expect to botch things up. Thats half the fun though :)

thoriphes
July 18th, 2003, 02:16 PM
hey, there's also WINE (sorry, no cheese...come on, it's a french joke :sigh:) which is a windows emulator for Linux.

(sen you might have to clear that up, i forget if it's an emulator or a console that runs a windows installation).

senocular
July 18th, 2003, 02:55 PM
WINE is not an emulator. It actually stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator :) It doesnt run windows either, rather it tries to recreate windows APIs from scratch allowing windows apps to think they are running on windows when being run.

mlk
July 18th, 2003, 03:03 PM
hey look, im a linux fan too - my father works at HP and 99% of the time with linux, redhat mandrake and even g-nome (which is - a cute name)... And I appreciate linux a lot, i've worked with 'the gimp' during summer last year cos that's the only thing i had back then...

all im saying is that linux IS for people who know more than the average computer skills.
and I agree that it's more stable, consumes less RAM and is structured much better... but until software makers really consider this potential market i won't make the switch...
and besides a photoshop-clone ain't photoshop =)....

senocular
July 18th, 2003, 03:06 PM
all Im saying is that linux can be fun to play around with =)

grimdeath
July 18th, 2003, 08:53 PM
id recommend mandrake, so far its the easiest linux ive used although i hear suse is one of the best, the problem with linux is if you plan to do websites useign your favorite apps its not possible so if thats what you want dont install linux if you just want a whole new experience try what sen said and install it on an old machine so you wont be sorry when you lose all your data :angry:

thoriphes
July 18th, 2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by senocular
WINE is not an emulator. It actually stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator :) It doesnt run windows either, rather it tries to recreate windows APIs from scratch allowing windows apps to think they are running on windows when being run. ...thus a windows emulator, no? :P

those unix geeks are really something.

'GNU' = "GNU is Not Unix"

senocular
July 18th, 2003, 10:01 PM
yeah if it werent for the name Id just as well consider it an emulator :)

mdipi
July 18th, 2003, 11:17 PM
this stuff is cool. i am learning a lot. i want a linux box...but even my old PC i bet couldnt hadel it. (its from 95)

JK87
July 19th, 2003, 03:16 PM
I've got a magazine which discusses installing linux and comes with a disc with what you need to install a certain type of Linux but I'm not too sure how to create a partition on a certain hard drive that I had intended to use on another computer and that other computer is as good as new.... not the best thing to try my first installation of Linux on =).

I've got a pile of old pc components building up and once I've got myself a shell and a few components from another PC at home which won't be needed in about three months, I will set up Linux on there. I'm hoping to use it as a webserver as well :). Unfortunately, I've got to wait three months :-\.

teet
July 19th, 2003, 03:36 PM
I've considered installing Linux a few times before...just for the learning experience more than anything. But, I have come to the conclusion that I don't want to screw up my machine (again).

I tried to install Windows 3.1 a while back (hey, I had the discs laying around) and have a dual boot windows 3.1/xp machine. I've read that it can be done, but you have to install Windows 3.1 first. Well, something went wrong and my computer wouldn't read either partition. Three days later I finally got my machine working again (I love Partition Magic!)...moral of the story: don't mess around with OS's unless you really know what you're doing or it's on an old machine that you don't care about.

-teet

grimdeath
July 20th, 2003, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by mdipi.com
this stuff is cool. i am learning a lot. i want a linux box...but even my old PC i bet couldnt hadel it. (its from 95)

well dont be surprised linux isnt very demanding on speed or ram its just very picky about your hardware is all you can run a linux box on a 486 pc so yes it will run on your 133mhz pc since that was what the standard was back in 95 lol oh god the nightmares rotflmao