Crysis ... yikes!

[BoonDock]

Ok, so just got a new comp.

Specs are as follows:

AMD X2 6000+
NVidia 8600 GTS XXX 512
2 gig RAM
320 gig SATA
Dual Layer DVD/RW+- Lightscribe
22" Samsung Widescreen

Bought Crysis because I was excited with the new comp. - Crysis tears my new comp up! I played the new NFS and Doom 3 along with WoW spec'ed out and they all handle fine ...

Crysis automatically defaults to 'Medium' settings across the board for my machine when I hit automatic configuration for the graphics ... has anyone else tried this game out on a PC and not a console - and if so any luck getting theirs to work at a better frame rate? Something I'm missing?

(I've downloaded and updated all the possible drivers I could find for every piece of hardware I've got...)

THANKS! :thumb:

It's a sweet game but I'd like for it to play smoother if possible - or does it look like I've got to invest in a 8800 GTS?

[Templarian]

I've been playing it just fine with an 8400 GS on Low/Medium and physics on high on a laptop.

Don't you love this game, def play it on veteran or the hardest as it doesn't make it any harder. I'm not that far into the game got a lot of papers and homework this week because its thanksgiving weekend coming up.

The game looks really nice on medium, i mean all your missing with high is some more lovely looking trees but it doesn't really affect the gameplay a whole lot. On low a lot of the shrubs and stuff go away so it takes away from the game play.

[hybrid101]

nice specs, but i would've expected it to run higher than medium:P

what drivers are you using?

[DanontheMoon]

Free up some HDD space and defrag, that might help up your FPS. It sounds like your graphics card is more than ample.

[kirupa]

Actually, while it sounds really odd, an 8600 isn't enough to handle Crysis at full detail. Even an 8800 might not be *that* much better, for the game was really designed to be run on full-detail on future hardware.

C:-)

[senocular]

... kind of like Duke Nukem Forever

[Templarian]

Even at medium it still looks really nice and watching entire building explode ect... is so much fun. Rocket launcher to a tower is so much fun.

[BoonDock]

Free up some HDD space and defrag, that might help up your FPS. It sounds like your graphics card is more than ample.

I would - but it's basically a brand new machine. :(


@ TEMP - hey man, so could you list what your specific settings are all set to by chance? - like I said - I just let the game determine everything and right now it's all Medium and that really doesn't seem to be optimum considering the game is still choppy ... especially when the action gets too intense ...

As far as the drivers go - I downloaded the newest driver from NVidia's site for the video card and upgrade Direct X to version 10 last night and I still experience the same problems ... any thoughts from anyone? - I know I won't be able to play any of it on High - but I figured that on Medium nothing would be playing as sparatic as it is ...

[BoonDock]

Actually, while it sounds really odd, an 8600 isn't enough to handle Crysis at full detail. Even an 8800 might not be *that* much better, for the game was really designed to be run on full-detail on future hardware.

C:-)


BAH! Future hardware ... which I guess I can wait for considering games like Assassin's Creed doesn't come out for PC till February ... possibly upgrade the video card then with SLi and 2 8800s?? ;) :thumb:

[DanontheMoon]

While you're at it, it helps to have a bin of money that you can swim around in like Scrooge McDuck.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/18/Scroogeswim.jpg

[Sirisian]

geforce 7800 go, 1.8 ghz Centrino Duo = absolute low quality

The game is still fun and the graphics aren't even that bad for low.

On future hardware the Crysis engine creates photorealistic details. I figure you guys have seen the pictures.

[thoriphes]

geforce 7800 go, 1.8 ghz Centrino Duo = absolute low quality

The game is still fun and the graphics aren't even that bad for low.

On future hardware the Crysis engine creates photorealistic details. I figure you guys have seen the pictures.
ouch. I myself have the 7600gt and was debating whether I should get another one and SLI them or get the top of the line card just so I don't have to run this game in wireframe mode to get decent fps (and to play UT2k7 eventually).

[BoonDock]

While you're at it, it helps to have a bin of money that you can swim around in like Scrooge McDuck.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/18/Scroogeswim.jpg


I wish I could be a Scrooge McDuck sometimes ... but it helps doing freelance work on the side while having a constant job. :thumb: Freelance = money for me ... constant job = money for wifey and me

[Templarian]

@ TEMP - hey man, so could you list what your specific settings are all set to by chance? - like I said - I just let the game determine everything and right now it's all Medium and that really doesn't seem to be optimum considering the game is still choppy ... especially when the action gets too intense ...
All low, resoution is 1024x8xx i believe. Physics are on the highest. And I think detail may be on med... other than that not many of the settings changed.

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showforum=72
(for anyone with laptops that need drivers).

[Theros]

Temp... do you think this game is better than CoD4? At least for the single player? I played the Crysis Multiplayer Beta, and I couldn't find anything fun about it. It was pretty boring to say the least... Right now, CoD4 MP still has me hooked!

[Templarian]

the game isn't really made for muliplayer. If you can run it with yours, which you can because your cards better than mine I'd say DEF get it. Its very fun and realistic.

Your getting crysis for the single player not the MP as MP suxs. COD4 you get best of both worlds.

[Theros]

the game isn't really made for muliplayer. If you can run it with yours, which you can because your cards better than mine I'd say DEF get it. Its very fun and realistic.

Your getting crysis for the single player not the MP as MP suxs. COD4 you get best of both worlds.

Exactly as I thought. I kinda wonder why IGN gave it such a high rating then if the MP sucks ***... Seems kinda biased there, since the CoD4 MP is soo much better. But I'll probably wait awhile and pick it up when the price drops a bit. Plus I'm still hooked on CoD4 anyway lol, gotta get to lvl 42!....

[3d Nirvana]

yea, im having the same problems as you are Boon. Brand new quad 2.66GHz, 4gig ram (800ish mhz), Nvidia 8800gts, 1tb disk..... and i havent had much luck running it on "high" settings at prettty low resolutions. Its really hard to get it running smoothly even if i turn the graphics down A LOT. its really frustrating.

[paddy.]

What's the point of releasing a game that can only be fully experienced on hardware that has yet to be released?

Surely a new game will come along by that time which looks even better. :h:

Console gaming FTW!

[BoonDock]

yea, im having the same problems as you are Boon. Brand new quad 2.66GHz, 4gig ram (800ish mhz), Nvidia 8800gts, 1tb disk..... and i havent had much luck running it on "high" settings at prettty low resolutions. Its really hard to get it running smoothly even if i turn the graphics down A LOT. its really frustrating.

Wow and your specs are even better than mine. I've got a buddy here at work that says his is running just the same as mine ... he thinks that it's a game glitch and that they might be releasing a patch hopefully sometime soon ... this might explain why the makers of Assassin's Creed didn't release the PC version yet due to these "glitches" that PCs might have compared to the consoles.

If so - I WANT MY DAMN PATCH NOW!!! :lol:

[Templarian]

What's the point of releasing a game that can only be fully experienced on hardware that has yet to be released?

Surely a new game will come along by that time which looks even better. :h:

Console gaming FTW!
Well the game is fully customizable/modable and the engine is breaking edge so it could last for a while. Engines tend to last longer than just regular games made off engines.

Fallout 3 for example is using Oblivions engine and that is pretty old.

[Theros]

Boo consoles! Just go get Call of Duty 4 and be happy :P

[Anogar]

Heh, it's not a "glitch", it's the developers hoping that the engine will last for years, and counting on future upgrades to make it work properly. They've done a ton of work on stuff like the intuitive level editor; they're going to be licensing this out to game studios. I might even go so far as to say that gameplay isn't their #1 priority.

Farcry, for example, was based off the CryENGINE, which was initially just a technology demo developed for nVidia by Crytek. They eventually licensed the engine to NCSoft for an MMO.

[Theros]

Heh, it's not a "glitch", it's the developers hoping that the engine will last for years, and counting on future upgrades to make it work properly. They've done a ton of work on stuff like the intuitive level editor; they're going to be licensing this out to game studios. I might even go so far as to say that gameplay isn't their #1 priority.

Farcry, for example, was based off the CryENGINE, which was initially just a technology demo developed for nVidia by Crytek. They eventually licensed the engine to NCSoft for an MMO.

Which MMO was that?

[eleven2]

damn.
it's honestly only been a year and a half, but the last time i checked, PC's were measured by GHz, but now there is no GHz marking.. it's just 6000 or 8200.. i guess PC's decided they weren't "fast enough" so they changed the whole way of gauging how they were clocked, huh?

[Templarian]

^Eleven, stick to the Windows System Rating it is very accurate at determining how the game will run.

Game Required: 3.0
Game Recommended: 5.0 (lol)
Current System Rating: 3.7 (its a laptop... can't expect that much).

To check ur system rating simple hit the game browser.

[Theros]

damn.
it's honestly only been a year and a half, but the last time i checked, PC's were measured by GHz, but now there is no GHz marking.. it's just 6000 or 8200.. i guess PC's decided they weren't "fast enough" so they changed the whole way of gauging how they were clocked, huh?

Er.. how does that translate to not fast enough? I sense a little Mac bias here? :P

[BoonDock]

My system rating on Windows Ultimate is 5.4 ... yet the game still runs less than par in my opinion ... oh well I'll just drop some things and run it and see how it goes. :thumb:

[Templarian]

Okay so crysis is def a game that gets better the longer one plays it... im still not very far so we will keep this thread spoiler free, its just so awesome later on.

BoonDock what Open Source drivers are you using at the moment... being that your on a desktop you can OC your card a bit, but really a 5.4 should be running that game pretty nicely, as long as you can get a high resolution I'd say kill the graphics to all medium.

[BoonDock]

@Temp - I'm not sure ... like I said I've downloaded the newest NVidia driver for the 8600 series cards from their website and I've also downloaded Direct X 10 from microsoft ... that's been it so far. Any ideas as to any other drivers I might want to get? (I'm not sure how to overclock the video card I don't really see any options in the BIOS to change any video card settings - unless I'm missing something...which is very likely)

[Templarian]

I don't know how to OC until i had my laptop I usually had gaming gear like yours now that im in college im a tad poorer.

Ask theros where he gets his open source drivers for desktops. The laptop ones are done to make crysis run better (don't know how but they up the FPS a ton).

[garyzero]

Which MMO was that?

Is it the canceled Marvel Universe one?

[BoonDock]

I don't know how to OC until i had my laptop I usually had gaming gear like yours now that im in college im a tad poorer.

Ask theros where he gets his open source drivers for desktops. The laptop ones are done to make crysis run better (don't know how but they up the FPS a ton).


Alright - @Theros - which drivers should I get from where? Please and thanks if you do actually know of anything. :thumb2:

[Templarian]

nvm no reason nvidia spent some time making special drivers for crysis... but you said you were using the most up to date so you are using the beta ones right?

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/betadrivers.aspx?lang=en-us

even says recommended drivers for crysis they are basically the same ones were using.

[BoonDock]

Hmmm actually I'm not certain which one I got ... I'm going to have to re-download and install to find out. Thanks for the tip there Temp! :thumb:

[Templarian]

np. Just figured as you never said what driver version you were using 169.09 is the most up to date... so have you seen any changes yet?

[Theros]

yeah, I just sent a reply back to you Boon. The latest drivers for Desktops and laptops are 169.09. These new drivers are supposed to fix SLI support for Crisis. I'm using it right now on my laptop, and its running pretty smooth, at least with CoD4. There are some hiccups, for example sometimes when playing, the game stutters... The new drivers have some bugs, but they are usually fixed just by restarting the game/computer.

Also, you shouldn't need to over clock... 5.4 is really good, and defenitly good enough to play Crysis. I guess just set it a bit lower and just wait till better hardware comes out heh:P

[Templarian]

I hickuped a lot on the last level of crysis... just beat it a few seconds ago. Yea even during that huge boss fight it had times where it was smooth... just give it a second to smooth out and go back to shooting.

Now to go play with the map editor and see if anyone started work on Jurassic Park and or gave me a P-90 to shoot people with.

[3d Nirvana]

WOW, ok, so i downloaded the newest nvidia beta drivers, and it fixed everything! I can run the game pretty well with "very high" settings at 1024xSomething and "High" settings at 1680xSomething. Both without antialiasing though. That kills my system. This game reallllly does look amazing when it works right!

[BoonDock]

Just so everyone knows - I used the Beta driver from NVidia (as 3d Nirvana did) and I have to say that it must've fixed everything ... problem is - when I set the settings ... to what I want them at (basically textures on high, everything else on medium and sound on high) - the computer hates me for about 1.5 mins and then the game comes back and is better than ever. Don't know why it almost stalls the whole machine while trying to convert to the new settings - but it looks nice once it does! :thumb:

Gameplay seems to be great too! Anyone know how I can find out what the FPS is that I'm getting for Crysis?

Thanks again to everyone's help!

[Theros]

Just so everyone knows - I used the Beta driver from NVidia (as 3d Nirvana did) and I have to say that it must've fixed everything ... problem is - when I set the settings ... to what I want them at (basically textures on high, everything else on medium and sound on high) - the computer hates me for about 1.5 mins and then the game comes back and is better than ever. Don't know why it almost stalls the whole machine while trying to convert to the new settings - but it looks nice once it does! :thumb:

Gameplay seems to be great too! Anyone know how I can find out what the FPS is that I'm getting for Crysis?

Thanks again to everyone's help!

FRAPS... Not free, but its the best option out there in my opinion

[Templarian]

^No... its an engine so it has a console:

Press ~ and type r_displayinfo=1 then press enter

[Theros]

^No... its an engine so it has a console:

Press ~ and type r_displayinfo=1 then press enter

ah... Didn't know that you could get the console commands for all those engines.... Only one I've played with is Source...

[BoonDock]

Nice - I'm getting above 28 FPS average ... fine by me. :thumb:

[blackjersey]

Hey guys, I have my specs as follows but i think I did not apply any patch for the game.

Specs:

Intel core2 extreme quad
Intel x38 mobo
NV GF8800
8gig ram
320gig hdd

Crysis seems to run ok. Do i need to install the patch or updated driver?

[BoonDock]

I would go ahead and do it - wouldn't hurt from what I can tell.

[blackjersey]

Nice! Even before if I run crysis with max out settings, now with the new beta driver, everything seems to be perfect!

[Esherido]

Just, wondering, who here plays Crysis regularly? Because I just finished the single-player campaign (Which was epicly amazing.) and have decided to jump into the world of Crysis multiplayer.

[Templarian]

Multiplayer suxs... enough said.

It gets boring very fast (I played that game for a total of like one week beat it, did muliplayer for 2 days and stopped playing it).

[Theros]

Dude, CoD4 multiplayer rocks Crysis MP period. I'm not done with the single player on Crysis yet...although, I find playing CoD4 more satisfying in ever way so far.

[Esherido]

^ True, after playing the Crysis MP and the CoD4 MP I've decided CoD4 rocks multiplayer-wise compared to Crysis. The Crysis single-player kicks CoD4's butt though, IMO.