My New Logo.

[Millad]

Please choos one of 5 logos that I made.
Please tell me why. and what to do to make it better.

see the attch. image.

:beam:

[Soul]

Number 5, the others are weird and shoddy

:)

- Soul :s:

[mlk]

ditto soul

number 5 is definetely the best and most original.. good work =)

[Soul]

If you made it yourself, the standard is pretty different, hmm?

- Soul :s:

[VisualAid]

No.5 clean and nice.


Guys i am having trouble with my logo is it okay for a logo just to be 2 letters VA stands for Visual Aid and my website VisualAMP i am not sure though doesnt look very professional.

[Soul]

A logo can have anything you want, lots of logos have letters but in a creative way! :)

British Telecom :beam:...http://www.6winit.org/bt.gif



CNN :beam:...http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/1.0/intl/logo.intl.gif



BBC :beam:...http://www.logo.nino.ru/_data/objects/23120/logo_thumbnail.gif

- Soul :s:

[VisualAid]

ou see my logo at the minute is just Va next to ech other :/ i cant think of anything to incoperate them with. :/ i used to have a tv logo i might go back to using that.

[Millad]

CHEck this one.

is this better ?

[Soul]

You didn't totally make the first number 5 did you, admit it :bad:

- Soul :s:

[sintax321]

Come one Blast Boy. http://sintax321.com/logo.jpg
This is from a brush set i found at Adobe Studio Exchange. You really shuoldn't modify it and us it as your logo. I know htey are difficult to come up with when it is for your self but try.

[Soul]

I knew it! Score! :thumb:

- Soul :s:

[UNFLUX]

wow - that's certainly not very creative now, is it? :bad:

[stimulus]

I was wondering if anyone would drop the bomb on number five.

I can understand how tempting it can can be to co-opt a brush shape, font shape, etc. when doing a logo. They're **** hard to make well. Just look at how much crap there is out there.

Design ethics and copyright issues aside, here are a few things that work for me when I'm working on a logo project. (I do quite a bit of identity and branding work.)

Start out with a bunch of free association. Just take down words and imagery that pop into your head when you think of the company name or industry area. Blastboy is a good one to work with. What comes to mind when you think of "blast"? Cherry bombs, dynamite. a keg of TNT... You get the idea.

A cute idea came to mind just now...not really a winner, but funny.
A little international symbol-type "boy" with an exploding head.
"blastboy"

Don't use that...really. :smirk:

Once you have some basic imagery to work with, *then* you can star doodling around with style. The negative illustration style used for the gasmask guy is a great style to work with for identity applications. It prints and scales well and lends itself to black and white use as well as color.

I highly recommend a little, inexpensive book called "the Idea Index". It's a pocket sized book that gives you all sorts of visual style examples and typographic treatments that'll inspire your creativity. Indispensable for someone getting their feet wet in identity design. You can find it on Amazon.

Logo is an abbreviation of the word logogram which is defined as "a symbol representing a phrase, word, or idea". Simply put, it should abbreviate the thing it represents. While the gasmask illustration looks cool, it doesn't say "blastboy". (Maybe a similarly-styled head with some neato, comic book style welding goggles?)

I hope my rambling plants a seed for some inspiration. If you want some more techniques for generating some ideas or a few pointers in the way of refining your concepts for a logo, feel free to email.

Word to your mother.

[padawan]

hey, i am trying to make a logo for a upscale resturaunt that i am associated with...they came up with the name...so don't make fun of it...or do...i don't like the name..but here goes

[Soul]

Way to go Stilmulus :thumb:

padawan, I don't think you should post this in someone elses thread when its meant to be about his work. Just a suggestion :) Your logo is not bad, the things that make it look strange are the stretched T and the missing T at the top.

- Soul :s:

[Millad]

thank you very much stimulus for your words :blush:
I will try to make a better logo. But my "company" is not Blastboy.
its Millad and Millad means burthday in Arabic. What logo should it be then :( a child in a hospital ? :hangover:

[s-fx]

What logo should it be then a child in a hospital ?

- hahaha that would've been fun to see as a logo!

[Soul]

Whats that got to do with 'burthday'?

- Soul :s:

[asphaltcowboy]

more importantly what's 'burthday' (sic) got to do with a guy in a gas mask? :-\

[Soul]

Point

[Kitiara]

For the love of God, can we all say "birthday" please? :P

I guess a starting point would be why it's called Birthday, where that came from, and what it reminds you of... :)

[asphaltcowboy]

let's play word association! ok, an example: 'kit'... foxy... hendrix... guitar etc

now, for the real thing:

'birthday'.... ah yes! a guy in a f*cking gas mask, what else? :P

[Millad]

LOL ! you are right !

Maybe you guys tell me, how shall a "logo" when the name means birthday ? ;(


-I child in a hospital--logo
-A mother is pushing hard--logo
-a nice little baby --logo
-a gas mask - logo


what more ?...

[Soul]

Do my word association!

Soul...

[asphaltcowboy]

Train

(let's not actually start a word association.. they have a tendancy to get out of hand and an excuse for spam :))

[Soul]

Blastboy, I'm thinking... a cake? Or a present? Why you'd wanna call your compant birthday I have no idea!

- Soul :s:

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by Blastboy
LOL ! you are right !

Maybe you guys tell me, how shall a "logo" when the name means birthday ? ;(


-I child in a hospital--logo
-A mother is pushing hard--logo
-a nice little baby --logo
-a gas mask - logo


what more ?... okok... maybe you're not understanding me here... when someone says "birthday" to you... you immediately think of pregnant women... hospitals and giving birth? Sorry.. but that's just weird.. are you honestly telling me you dont think about your birthday? as in.. presents? cake? candles? happy... stuff? or are you in fact a total weirdo? :-\

[Millad]

lol NONO !!!

birthday, ah my name means it, why becouse I was born when jesus was born in same date... 22 december, well he came 25 dec. but its cinda same... thats why they called me Millad but, maybe I must change my company name, I dont know what ?

[Millad]

OKOK I just got help from my Mother here becouse I dont realy realy know what Millad means...

Millad means =

Burthday...
Happy...
Peace...I white burd-> thats peace.
No gas mask:P


maybe A white bird flying !!! yes a white bird
:bounce: but I canot draw a white bird ?

someone help me ? :(

[asphaltcowboy]

right... so you were name 'birthday' because you were born on 22nd December.. i.e. not 26th December :-\ *talks into radio* Erm.. *hiss* can we get someone over here please.. *click* I think this boy has underlying issues that need addressing.. *hiss* *click*

what's that? a white bird you say? what a good idea! :)

*nods and smiles* :)

[Millad]

talks into radio* Erm.. *hiss* can we get someone over here please.. *click* I think this boy has underlying issues that need addressing.. *hiss* *click*



?what? :sure:

[Kitiara]

How about the silhouette of a dove in flight? :) Put that against the circle background, same style as the original number 5.

[Millad]

google search... white bird
http://www.nps.gov/npsa/book/images/image332.jpg

A very nice logo for me ;(
LOL

[Millad]

sorry kit whats a silhouette ?


Edit--

Yes yes I dove !!! yes Thanx. but how to draw one as a logo?
can I take it from Google or how, Im not good at this :*(
can someone help :-\

[stimulus]

hmm...I guess I was going more for some ways for you to come up with some ideas than making specific recommendations.

It seems like you're beginning to get on the right track, though. I'll be the first to tell you that it's almost never a quick, easy process to come up with winning imagery for a logo. You just have to keep plugging away at it. It'll happen. I promise. It *will* take some time, though.

Working with the "birthday" angle is a pretty tough one. Don't concentrate specifically on a directly associated image if it's stumping you. (i.e. a picture of a birthday cake or candle.) Play around with some compositions of typography. A great example of this method is Macromedia's logo. Does it tell you instantly what the company is about? Not really. Is it memorable and easily recognizable? Definitely. You'll find the letter "M" is pretty nice to work with in this way.

I took a few of my initial ideas and ran with them. These wouldn't be anything I'd necessarily present to a client without some refining and coming up with about 20 more ideas. (I try to make a lot and choose my favorite 3 to present.)

The three concepts in the attached file will give you a better idea of what I'm talking about with image abstraction and typographic composition.

btw - these are for illustrative purposes only. If you use them, I have to charge you lots of money. ;)

[stimulus]

If you dropped that photo into Illustrator, Freehand or other vector drawing program and traced the outline you'd have the beginnings of a very sharp logo. You might mot want to include all of the little feather detail and such. But, that'd be safe in the way of copyright infringement and wouldn't look bad at all.

Take a shot. It all takes practice.

[sintax321]

Here is an example of what they mean
http://www.sintax321.com/pics/millad1.jpg
Then you cna fancy it up a bit if u want
http://www.sintax321.com/pics/millad2.jpg

[Millad]

sintax321 can I use one of these examples you made. Can I edit them and use them. ?

Thank you very much. I had problems with creating the bird in
ps 7 but now u made it. can u also put the ps7 file ?


Than you very much for your examples stimulus
you realy help me.


Thanx :tb:

[sintax321]

ya i dont' see why not. I'm not goign to use it for much else and I'm sure you where jsut going to do something similar any way cause kit suggested the idea.

[VisualAid]

wish i had this much help on my logo :P

I cant think of anything for my design company VisualAMP all i can think is a tv with vis on the screen :/

[stimulus]

start another thread and post what you have currently... I'm game to kick around some ideas.

Word to your mother.

[beanboy]

VisualAMP, what does that mean? are u talking amp as in amplified, or is this an acronymn for something else?

And why a TV? Do you do broadcasting? Expand a little on what you want to achieve and it will be far easier.

:thumb:

[DDD]

blast (millad) didnt you already have a set of logos that you made? You asked for opinions and got a bunch. Personally there was one I really liked. The first step to being an artist and surviving in this business is knowing when to put the brush down. Go with what you already had those were nice. Sorry if someone said this already I did not read all the posts

[DDD]

hey visual amp. I just thought of an idea for a logo for you ill try to whip it up and pm u. If you like could you give a lil credit to ya boy over here for helping you ?

[Digitalosophy]

people put to much thought into logos. i mean come on one of the most famous logo's is a nike swoosh. do you really think they sat around for weeks and weeks designing that!

[DDD]

nah I dont think it is too much thought. But you only get one chance to make a first impression. ANd if they are lke wut the hell is that? Then you have lost. Branding is very very important and requires thought and research.

[sintax321]

I doubt they sat for weeks designing that one but i'm sure they thought for weeks on a couple before deciding on that one.

[stimulus]

:)

Actually, that logo was far from dumb luck. It was *at least* as calculated as anything we've come up with here.

The swoosh logo is a design created by Carolyn Davidson, a graphic artist in Portland in 1971. It represents the wing of the Greek Goddess of victory-NIKE. It's not just a weird shape someone thought would look neat, it had a great deal of thought put into its symbolism, marketability and impression.

Logos portray business images. The logo's distinct image is a reminder of a product or service.

You remember great logos because they've made a lasting impression. The impact of-or lack thereof-a logo can mean the difference between the success of a business or that of its competitor.

Smaller businesses especially must meet the challenge of creating a long lasting first impression. When establishing the corporate identity for a startup or small business, goals are formulated, business plans are instituted and a specific image is created. But the logo identity is far too often put on the back burner and thoughtlessly designed. The evolution of the logo design and its finalization into a well crafted image will convey to the public that this company cares about they image they project.

In short, if your business has shoddy identity it conveys that feeling to potential clients and customers. Businesses care about these things because it's financially prudent to do so.

[VisualAid]

3d iva if ya help u'll get loadsa credit ;)

and VisualAMP i dont know why i prefer to call it VA cause my other name thing is VisualAid (tv viewing) (visual amps a tv?)
:P thats what i think anyway :).

[DDD]

AMEN...stimulus.. I just gave that speech to a new client.

Visual......I will try to whip it up today on my lunch break. To help me out could post a few adjectives (one word descriptions) about your company? Just the first few things that come to mind

[beanboy]

stimulus at least u seem to have an understanding of branding. No offence but some of u guys have awesome computer skills but so need to get away from the computer a bit and grasp a better understanding of the principles and concepts of design.

Designs that you take for granted (such as the Nike swoosh) and that are subtly great, are born from a massive creative process. Admittedly some designs still manage to turn out a little suspect despite this process, but the point is that there is far more to good deisign than meets the eye. :eye:

Cheers.

[DDD]

yeah like I said in my post research......I go thru a lengthy process b4 releasing an identity. I do alot of stuff b4 sitting down at the computer. i agree. But stimulus hit the nail on the head. Very good stuff in his post.

[stimulus]

I wasn't trying to come off as condescending or anything. This just happens to be my bag. Hell, I started coming to these forums because there a s**tload of people who really know the ins and outs of Flash. I don't. I'm learning--with help from everyone else here--but I'm still pretty green.

I just don't want to burn any bridges. :smirk:

Great design is a long and hellish endeavor that's intended to look effortless. The most difficult design is often the simplest.

[Digitalosophy]

stimulas, boy now that is an explanation :)

[DDD]

point taken....I think that was very good advice.....I hope you stick around continue to give advice like that.

[Millad]

3d-iva I had a Virus in my Pc- I had to reinstall everything...
I lost everything + my site.
I must start over so I work the site out and the logo ! ;)