manga readers: bebop, kenshin, gunnm,...

[Kajinku]

I heard a lot about Cowboy Bebop and asphalt mentioned it a couple of times in his posts, so I went to the shop and bought the 2 volume manga set: Cowboy Bebop: Shooting Star.

To be honest, it's OK, but I don't like it that much. Never saw the anime though, so I can't compare, but the manga (at least this version) is too boring for me. Sorry asphalt ;)

I would like to know your personal reviews for this list of manga (no anime):

1) Gunnm
2) City Hunter (I was a big fan of the anime)
3) Evangelion
4) Rurouri Kenshin

I'm searching for a good story, with a lot of action and stuff. :) Ideas? Recommendations? Even if not listed above?

[Kitiara]

Asphalt would be your man here, I think. :)

[asphaltcowboy]

ok, i just wrote sh*tloads of stuff... and teh evil forum b0rked it :)

[Kajinku]

Write it again! Write it again! *pretty please* ;)

[s-fx]

You should expand the list with some Hentai too! :P

[Kajinku]

Does this stuff exist in manga too?!
Either way, I saw a hentai anime once... pretty weird if you ask me. :-/

[asphaltcowboy]

well, actually, the main bulk of it was: my knowledge of manga isnt that great (thanks though kit :)) - I'm much more of an anime man myself (though obviously, most good animes used to be manga or vice versa). Can't say I've read any that you mentioned (I'm still watching Evangelion.. just not got any time atm ;)) but if you want lists of good animes and anime films, then I'm yer man.

Mangas: obvious essentials: Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop (;))

btw, wrt Cowboy Bebop, it's probably worth watching the anime first (which, incidentally, is absolutely brilliant). Once you get the format from watching the anime, I think you'll like the manga a whole lot more. The thing with Bebop is, there's a kind of vague, underlying story to the whole thing that runs all the way through, but this doesnt really surface until the last few episodes. The rest of the time, the episodes dont follow on from each other in normal anime series fashion.

[asphaltcowboy]

yes, you can get hentai manga as well. though normally (since it's such a marginalised market) it's not often translated into english. either way, it's probably best to steer clear imo. it's not very nice.. and quite how it provides people with sexual gratification, I'll never know

:-\

[Kajinku]

Thanks. Sure, you can send me the list of good anime episodes and films. Always intrested. :)

I have Akira on DVD. Do you get all your episodes from DVD? Or from... well... the air? ;)

[asphaltcowboy]

no no, Akira was originally a manga (6 editions I think?) and then they made it into a feature-length movie (the DVD). As good as Akira (the movie) is, it was difficult for them to compress over 2000 pages of manga into a normal sized film. which is why people find Akira (the movie) so difficult to understand sometimes. You should really read the manga, it clears everything up, which means you can enjoy the film a lot more (even though you'll see quite a few differences between the animated and printed versions) :)

I'll post a list of must-see anime series and films.. when I can think of them ;)

[Kajinku]

I knew about the Akira manga. Didn't read those yet, but I know where to get them. There are different versions of the manga on the market. Glenat (French version) has 2 different versions:

- pocket manga (14 volumes)
- book manga (6 volumes)

Take your time for the list. :)

[Kitiara]

Amazon.co.uk sell Akira DVD's and books. :) Hopefully this link (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1840232579/qid=1056546743/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/202-3926267-5419846) will work... :)

[asphaltcowboy]

aye, they're about £20 a go.. makes getting the whole a set a long-term objective ;)

[Kajinku]

Myeah... Appart from Cowboy Bebop: Shooting Star I also have the complete manga set of Dragon Ball. 42 books, about 5 or 6 euros each... :crazy:
But, for me, this is the best manga (and anime) ever!

Hm, which reminds me I watched Ranma 1/2 a lot when I was younger. Loved that show, together with City Hunter who was called "Nicky Larson" on the French channel. Aaah, memories. :)

Ranma 1/2:


http://www.gtmanga.com/listofmanga/Ranma/ranma.jpg

[asphaltcowboy]

I really really don't like Dragon Ball. Apart from the fact that it's badly drawn and animated, the storylines are incredibly slow and boring.. they have looads of episodes between fights where nothing interesting happens (let's face it - the fights are the only reason you'd watch it) and then the fights themselves - the story writers manage to draw out fights over about 10 episodes where very little happens in each one.

drives me abosolutely crazy. :(

[Kitiara]

How about Pokemon? :P

[asphaltcowboy]

don't even go there... :P

[Kajinku]

Well, for Dragon Ball, I recommend the manga. It's well drawn and the fight scenes are pretty cool. It's true that the anime is kinda sloooow sometimes, but there are good moments in it.

Episode 1:
A: You will pay for this!
B: No you will!
A: My force is greater than yours!
B: Hahaha!

Episode 2: (repeat 1)

Episode 3: FIGHT - part 1 of 6

:sigh:

Not that I want to start a manga war here, but I thought the Cowboy Bebop: Shooting Star manga was kind of repetitive too: big shot time, bounty hunters, woolongs... and I hate Ed. He's like a girl. :P Spike and Jet are cool though.

[Kajinku]

Originally posted by Kitiara
How about Pokemon? :P
Ugh. :P But I like that little egg-pokemon... erm... Togepi or something.

[Kitiara]

You know what one's called! :P

[asphaltcowboy]

Spike is a god. He's **** cool. Did I mention that the anime has some of the greatest music... in anything... EVER?! :beam:

[Niann]

I liked Akira, Ghost in the Shell was good. The Love Hina Manga is really good esp if you are a fan of the show. The Manga goes into a lot more depth, as it usually does. :)

Must see Anime... Hmmmm Thats Quite a long list for me. Anyhow...

Ah! My Goddess (OVA and Movie are both good)
Green Legend Ran (Movie)
Bubblegum Crisis 2032 (2040 is good to, but the original is way ahead of its time)
Vampire Hunter D (Both the original and the sequal were excellent)
Tenchi Muyo! (OVA, the TV series were ok, but the OVA was outstanding.)
El Hazard (OVA)
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke

That should be enough to get anyone started. :) If you need more suggestions I will be happy to give some.

Asphalt, I must admit I have never seen Cowboy Beebop, I have the first DVD sitting at home in the waiting to be watched pile, maybe I should move it to the top. ;) Is it hard finding Anime over in the UK? I am just curious. :)

Cheers!
-Niann

[Kajinku]

Originally posted by Kitiara
You know what one's called! :P
So what?! *starts crying* :P

Anyway, that's Togepi:

http://www.dltk-kids.com/pokemon/adoptions/togepi.gif

[asphaltcowboy]

Um.. well, I've ordered a few things off ebay before. It's not common to find anime in well-known shops (perhaps big HMVs at stupidly over-priced rates :)) I.. um.. tend to to .. *cough* download *cough* series, but obivously, if I like them, I'll have a good, extensive search around to see if I can buy them for reasonable amounts of money :)

[Niann]

Pokemon... /gag :P

Cheers!
-Niann

[Kajinku]

Look how happy he is:

http://www.nguyen-trong.com/pokemon/175_togepi.jpg

Aaaaaw... ;)

[Niann]

perhaps big HMVs at stupidly over-priced rates

I am not familer with a HMV? Care to fill me in? (:

Cheers!
-Niann

[asphaltcowboy]

hmm.. whereabouts are you in the world? www.hmv.co.uk www.hmv.com - good range of stuff.. prices arent very good - you can find some good deals now and again...

[Kajinku]

Originally posted by Niann
Bubblegum Crisis 2032 (2040 is good to, but the original is way ahead of its time)
Heard a lot about this one too. Will check that out :) Thanks!

[Niann]

I am in Chicago, USA. Ahhh that seems to be the UK version of say Sam Goody http://www.samgoody.com or Suncoast www.suncoast.com Here in the US. Its pretty much the same there the pricing is a bit high for my taste, but every once in a while you find a good deal. :) What region code are your DVDs?

Cheers!
-Niann

[asphaltcowboy]

2, but a lot of the new dvd-players are region free. and most of the anime dvds you buy on ebay aren't entirely official (made by proper companies.. but.. not originals if you get what I mean) so they're normally region-free discs

[Niann]

I know what you mean. ;) Have you taken a look at Noir at all? I just bought the 4th volume yesterday. The story line to this series is fantastic. Its worth taking a look at. Just ummm watch the series in order, I can't imagine it making much sense otherwise... =)

Cheers!
-Niann

[asphaltcowboy]

Kajinku - Anime Films and Series worth watching:

Akira (Movie)
Ghost in the Shell (Movie - havent seen the series yet)
Cowboy Bebop (Series)
Cowboy Bebop the Movie
Hellsing (Series)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (Series)
Naruto (Series - my fave anime at the moment)
Scryed (Series - another fave atm)
Princess Mononoke (Absolutely STUNNING movie)
Ninja Scroll (Movie)
The Guyver (Series)
Spirited Away (Movie)
Perfect Blue (Movie - really good!)
Street Fighter Alpha (Movie - good if you like fights etc)
Blood: The Last Vampire (Movie)
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade (Movie)
Trigun (Series)
Wings of Honnaemise (Movie)
Golgo 13: The Professional (Movie)

ps. Niann - yes. I've seen the first few eps of Noir - good stuff.. tad confusing at the start.. and YES! Move cowboy bebop to the top... in fact... put it in your dvd drive now! :)

[Niann]

Blood: TLV was really good. Although I thought the ending left a bit to be desired. It just kind if stopped... :) Wow Guyver, there is a series I have not seen in a long time. Although The series was recently released on a set of two DVDs.

If you liked Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, you should try and find Kiki's Delivery Service, and Castle in the Sky. The same person directed them. I enjoyed both films. :)

I will move Cowboy Beebop to the top of the pile and hopefully will have time to sit and watch it in the next day or so. =)

I would also like to suggest Love Hina, Please Teacher, and Hand Maid May. All three are pretty funny.

Cheers!
-Niann

[asphaltcowboy]

I only have a few of the Guyver vids. Ok, so it's not that great a series any more.. but I might grab a copy of those two dvds at some point... if only for the sentimental value ;)

Yeah, I have no idea why they didnt make Blood into an OVA or something. I mean.. the film was so short! They could have made a great series out of it! And the animation and effects are absolutely stunning - still remember watching the opening sequence for the first time.. OMG! :beam:

[Kajinku]

Originally posted by asphaltcowboy
Kajinku - Anime Films and Series worth watching:

Akira (Movie)
Ghost in the Shell (Movie - havent seen the series yet)
Cowboy Bebop (Series)
Cowboy Bebop the Movie
Hellsing (Series)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (Series)
Naruto (Series - my fave anime at the moment)
Scryed (Series - another fave atm)
Princess Mononoke (Absolutely STUNNING movie)
Ninja Scroll (Movie)
The Guyver (Series)
Spirited Away (Movie)
Perfect Blue (Movie - really good!)
Street Fighter Alpha (Movie - good if you like fights etc)
Blood: The Last Vampire (Movie)
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade (Movie)
Trigun (Series)
Wings of Honnaemise (Movie)
Golgo 13: The Professional (Movie)


Merci ;)

[asphaltcowboy]

no problemo ;)

[pom]

Hey, I've just noticed this discussion =)

1) Gunnm
This has to be the best manga I've read, ever. The story is incredible, the fights are very nice, and the mix of spirituality, brutality, technology and some other 'y' words is just perfect. Glenat is publishing a sequel right now, and it's looking good!

2) City Hunter (I was a big fan of the anime)
I was a big fan of Nicky Larson too, but especially because of the voices of the bad guys :P Not too fond of this one.

3) Evangelion
I don't understand. Everybody loves this manga, I can't help finding it boring as hell.

4) Rurouri Kenshin
I've never read that one. There's a FNAC nearby, I might give it a shot soon.

And you HAVE TO READ Noritaka!! It's the funniest manga I've read so far, hands down. Totally pathetic, completely stupid, but you'll die laughing...

pom :phil:

[Kajinku]

Originally posted by Ilyas
1) Gunnm
This has to be the best manga I've read, ever. The story is incredible, the fights are very nice, and the mix of spirituality, brutality, technology and some other 'y' words is just perfect. Glenat is publishing a sequel right now, and it's looking good!

Cool, I will check this one out then :) I've heard a lot about it, but I don't want a manga like those "Storm" comics (which suck if you ask me).



2) City Hunter (I was a big fan of the anime)
I was a big fan of Nicky Larson too, but especially because of the voices of the bad guys :P Not too fond of this one.
"Aaah oue, lez mechants vont faire bobo... hehehe" ;) lol, yeah, those were funny. I loved the whole stupid humour in City Hunter. And the hammers and all. :)



3) Evangelion
I don't understand. Everybody loves this manga, I can't help finding it boring as hell.
Oh no. Another boring robot manga huh? Gundam being the first in the list... :-\



4) Rurouri Kenshin
I've never read that one. There's a FNAC nearby, I might give it a shot soon.
The anime wasn't bad...



And you HAVE TO READ Noritaka!! It's the funniest manga I've read so far, hands down. Totally pathetic, completely stupid, but you'll die laughing...
Never read it, but I saw the guy before:

http://www.boomspeed.com/picnik/noritaka.png

What do you think of Ranma 1/2? :)

[asphaltcowboy]

Originally posted by Niann
I am in Chicago, USA. Ahhh that seems to be the UK version of say Sam Goody http://www.samgoody.com or Suncoast www.suncoast.com Here in the US. Its pretty much the same there the pricing is a bit high for my taste, but every once in a while you find a good deal. :) What region code are your DVDs? hehe, I was jsut looking at the suncoast website... and guess what was on the front page?

;) ;) :thumb:

[Kajinku]

Hehe... the Cowboy Bebop gang and... Ed. :sigh: I don't like Ed. Ed is stupid.

:P :beam:

[pom]

Ranma 1/2 is just like Fly to me: they look nice, but I was older when they were on television, and I've never really read the mangas till the end (I started Fly, it was quite good, but there were too many missing books so I couldn't go on :-\).

Ken le Survivant is fun, altough always the same :) "Tu ne le sais pas mais tu es déjà mort..." :P

[Kajinku]

Now that was boring! And ikky... if I remember correctly. :)

[pom]

WHA'??? Boring? It was the best! Basic feelings, evil bad guys who are not really evil, fights, tears, and talks about kung-fu. What else do you need? :P

[asphaltcowboy]

Ed is quality, kajinku! you really have to hear her speak and see her move before you can appreciate how quality she really is :)

btw, Ed is a girl ;) - they reveal this to you during the anime :P

[Niann]

Tomorrow is my day off, I will have time to watch the first DVD of Cowboy Beebop. I will let you know what I think. :) :thumb:

Cheers!
-Niann

[asphaltcowboy]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :thumb:

[Kajinku]

Originally posted by asphaltcowboy
Ed is quality, kajinku! you really have to hear her speak and see her move before you can appreciate how quality she really is :)

btw, Ed is a girl ;) - they reveal this to you during the anime :P
He's a girl? Hm, that would make sense, yes. :P But I still think he (the girl, Ed) is stupid. ;)

[asphaltcowboy]

what the d*mn anime! :P only then you will fully understand Ed's greatness :)