The Atkins Diet

[SureShot]

Hey people. If you click this message than you prolly know what I'm talking about.

I have just started it today and let me tell you - it's kind of hard if you dont have the right food around you but once you go shopping just once, this could be great! I mean you can eat meat, cheese, eggs, bacon, sausage, salad - alot of great things.

The only thing you have to stop eating is Carbs. I meanyou can have a few but that's it. Has anyone here tried this diet? I have a guy on my baseball team that has been doing it for 6 months and lost like 60 pounds (with mild excrcise as well of course)

So have you tried it? Any suggestions or questions? I really just want to know that people think of it or if they have any suggestions on how to make this last.

[Jubba]

i couldn't give up carbs. I love pasta too much.

[SureShot]

I hear you man, that's the biggest problem. Well that and mexican food. But I am going to give it a month and see if there are any results better than the low-fat crap I have been doing.

[mdipi]

Originally posted by Jubba
i couldn't give up carbs. I love pasta too much.

i am in a strong Sicilan house hold, i havent had much OTHER than pasta!


but on the other hand i will give and example:

This summer i met Kenny Rogers, he was BIG! This winter i met him again. He looks soo much better! slimmer and he moves quicker. :thumb:

[Jubba]

I dont believe in dieting anyway. I have been cutting back on how much I eat. Now when I go to Wendy's I only get 2 burgers and a drink instead of 3 burgers 2-ten piece chicken nuggets 2 fries and a drink...

eating slower and ordering less has helped me lose a little weight, but I am not trying to lose weight... I'm try to gain weight... lost fat, build muscle etc....

[nobody]

My mommy and grammy did the atkins diet.
both of them cheated the entire time... it was really funny
they both ended up losing somewhere around 5 pounds in a couple weeks.. so they are happy...

That's the one with the kitosis and everything right?

[mdipi]

Originally posted by Jubba
I dont believe in dieting anyway. I have been cutting back on how much I eat. Now when I go to Wendy's I only get 2 burgers and a drink instead of 3 burgers 2-ten piece chicken nuggets 2 fries and a drink...

eating slower and ordering less has helped me lose a little weight, but I am not trying to lose weight... I'm try to gain weight... lost fat, build muscle etc....

*jubba pulls up* "Gimme the most cloresteral you can pack in $10"


lol jk

[SureShot]

Jubba : I hate you.










:)

[Jubba]

actually its 8 something... :P

I used to eat a lot, but I decided that I should start moderating my diet. Don't want to end up like the rest of my family... overweight with heart problems.

I'm not really watching what I eat in terms of healthy food, I'm just eat less that I normally would.

I also only eat 2 times a day now instead of 5 or 6.

I haven't lost any weight, but there is definately a noticeable difference in muscle to fat ratio...

I work out every day too...

[nobody]

:love:
you're so dreamy jubba

[Jubba]

ok "phil" :P

[pinx]

i'm a vegetarian so this would NOT work.

[gpdesigner]

I have the Atkins Diet at home..I haven't used it yet, but from what I understand from people who have used it success is in the cards if you stick with it. Although the research says that if you stay on it within a year or so..you start to put the wieght back on...so be careful. The main idea is that a diet will get your body to the point were you are energetic enough to be more motivated in excercise. No diet is ment for long term, permanent wieght loss is a change of life style...
But yes ...with commitment the diet will work

[nobody]

Originally posted by Jubba
ok "phil" :P

:blush: <-- there needs to be a blush smilie

anywho, back to your regularly scheduled thread

[fester8542]

Hey Sure,
As an avid gym rat and for the most part I would strongly steer you away from atkins.

First off you can loose weight in the begining because its expendable weight that cardio or weight training would take off anyway.

Personally I keep my carb intake low and protiens high, but to eliminate them from your diet will not only lead to health problems it can KILL YOU.

Im talking potential diabetis, thyroid disease....some nasty stuff.

I would suggest eating 5 small meals a day of low carb high protien food.

A can of tuna, a single chicken breast.

eating small meals of healthy food constantly keeps you metabolising. In turn increasing your metabolism and your natural abilty to burn fat.

[gpdesigner]

that is the ideal way to go, but diets are a quick fix, you just have to know when to jump off the wagon and start living right.... I use to live in the gym as well, but the last decade has put new numbers on my scale I have never seen before... :)

[mdipi]

Originally posted by fester8542
Hey Sure,
As an avid gym rat and for the most part I would strongly steer you away from atkins.

First off you can loose weight in the begining because its expendable weight that cardio or weight training would take off anyway.

Personally I keep my carb intake low and protiens high, but to eliminate them from your diet will not only lead to health problems it can KILL YOU.

Im talking potential diabetis, thyroid disease....some nasty stuff.

I would suggest eating 5 small meals a day of low car high protien food.

A can of tuna, a single chicken breast.

eating small meals of health food constantly keeps you metabolising. In turn increasing your metabolism and your natural abilty to burn fat.

wow! i didnt know htat! this summer mesa doing it!

[SureShot]

Thanks for your input Fester... I see what you are saying. I have the book and am reading it right now.

The first thing it makes crystal clear right from the begining is that this is in no way bad for you - in fact it will help reverse the onslaugh of diabeties and heard disease and such. From what I have read this is the short version.

Your body has insulin transports glucose from your blood to your cells where it is converted to energy. Any extra is stored and turned into fat. Both Fat and Carbs are converted to Glucose. Fat is converted twice as fast as the carbs are. Your body already makes the things that carbs give you and what it doesnt, fat does. While reducing the intake of Carbs you can let your body concentrate on the fats and not have to worry about carbs. This is why calorie counting and low-fat stuff is not as effective. Your body needs fat.. it doesnt need carbs.

Most Low-Fat food is loaded with Sugar and carbs to make it taste like something. Surgar is terrrible for you, well the unnatural kind is anyway - it has no use to your body. Since your body works on the Carbs first and then the fat - if you take the carbs out, it goes right for the fat and does so twice as fast.

Your body can only take so much Glucose and as I said before the rest is turned into fat. So by the time your body has turned the carbs into energy it get's to the fat and says "your going to the a s s for storage" :)

This is what the book as taught me anyway.

[mdipi]

yeah sugar is really bad for oyu, my mom knows people who got diabbities form it. WEll to much sugar at least. and whole wheat is way better than white bread caue you get fiber.

[rere420]

Originally posted by fester8542
Hey Sure,
As an avid gym rat and for the most part I would strongly steer you away from atkins.

First off you can loose weight in the begining because its expendable weight that cardio or weight training would take off anyway.

Personally I keep my carb intake low and protiens high, but to eliminate them from your diet will not only lead to health problems it can KILL YOU.

Im talking potential diabetis, thyroid disease....some nasty stuff.

I would suggest eating 5 small meals a day of low car high protien food.

A can of tuna, a single chicken breast.

eating small meals of health food constantly keeps you metabolising. In turn increasing your metabolism and your natural abilty to burn fat.


I 'm w/fester. We both always make sure to at least try and keep the carbs down and the protein up adn exercise.

The main problem w/Atkins which just like other "diet programs" It can only last for so long, you can not wipe out carbs forever, eventually you have to go back to eating them and you will quickly put more weight on and your body will hold on to them building fat and feed off of them because they havent had them. It is fuel.

The only true way to lose weight is to work out and eat a balanced diet of carbs, proteins and fats. To lose weight your carbs and fat should be lower then protein (protein should be about 1 gram per lb of body fat-depending on your goal!) =)

Your body needs carbs for fuel, you just need toeat the right ones. Brown rice, wheat bread, low grain rice etc. are good to eat. It is the white breads, potatoes, white and long grain rice and canned foods that will kill your diet and you dont need to follow Atkins to cut them out.

I would not suggest it because of the health effects jsut like Fester mentioned. We have both looked alot into all types of diets and programs and this in my opinion is not a smart one to stick too.
Good luck though:) :) :)

[Kitiara]

There's a girl in eCommerce who's going on this one to lose weight for her holiday... She says that it does seem to work, so I won't argue. Besides, anything that tells you to eat a lot of steak can't be all bad. :)

But no pasta or potatos? More importantly, no chocolate? How would I survive? :stunned:

Personally, I've never been on a diet in my life, and I don't want to ever have to. I just eat whatever I want. :) I've been about the same weight for the past 10 years. :P

[s-fx]

hah, "The Atkins Diet".
Atkins... hmm, that word makes me feel uncomfortable, sounds like some kind of a disease. "The Atkins Diet", sounds like a treatment for the disease hahahahaha.

[chris9902]

Dieting goes back to self-confidence and do you really own your own self-confidence.

Hear me out...

When you do stuff is it for you or is it because you don't want people to say stuff and ****, personal I don't give a **** what so retard on a bus is thinking, I am the way I am and that’s it.

If your happy stay happy, don't go on diets for others do it for you.
Not until your 30 and the party years are over anyway ;)


PS... that Atkins thing gives you a VERY bad liver 2 or 3 years down the line becuase you need carb for your liver and other important organs.

the best way to lose weight is buy a treadmill and stop eating plates of heart attack

[fester8542]

Originally posted by chris9902
Dieting goes back to self-confidence and do you really own your own self-confidence.

Hear me out...

When you do stuff is it for you or is it because you don't want people to say stuff and ****, personal I don't give a **** what so retard on a bus is thinking, I am the way I am and that’s it.

If your happy stay happy, don't go on diets for others do it for you.
Not until your 30 and the party years are over anyway ;)


PS... that Atkins thing gives you a VERY bad liver 2 or 3 years down the line becuase you need carb for your liver and other important organs.

the best way to lose weight is buy a treadmill and stop eating plates of heart attack


I personally work out endlessly for me. I have this deep seeded desire to be the most disgustingly huge person on the planet. I want to have to walk through doorways sideways.

I want parents to pull thier children closer when i walk down the street because freakzilla is comming!

lol...its sick but thats a "me" goal.

[fester8542]

Originally posted by s-fx
hah, "The Atkins Diet".
Atkins... hmm, that word makes me feel uncomfortable, sounds like some kind of a disease. "The Atkins Diet", sounds like a treatment for the disease hahahahaha.

HA HA...

Let us not foget that Dr. Atkins died this year from his own diet.

[fester8542]

Originally posted by rere420
The only true way to lose weight is to work out and eat a balanced diet of carbs, proteins and fats. To lose weight your carbs and fat should be lower then protein (protein should be about 1 gram per lb of body fat-depending on your goal!) =)



I hope <b>you</b> are not eating one gram of protien per pound of lean body mass and are suggesting that to sure. If you are (which I dont think you are) you should stop that immediatly.

Or you are going to be one jacked broad :)


(BTW sorry for the three posts, I missed the end of this last night)

[rere420]

well, I am not eating even half of that! but you eat close to that, right? Thats why I said depending on your goal, I think our goals are very different!!!!!

Girls tend to want to be smaller adn guys to be bigger and then there is you who want to be the biggest person in the world~I think Ronnie Coleman and Arnold may give you some competition!


BTW Dr.Atkins fell and hit his head and put himself into a comma thats how he died, died of a head injury!

[fester8542]

DOH!

There goes fester spreading misinformation....

lol...thats too funny. I though he died from his diet. MY BAD!

[rere420]

i'm sure it didnt help him in anyway, other then making alot of money!!

[SureShot]

so the consensus here is... this isnt a good thing. I mean , most everything I have read states that is a good way to go but every now and then I see people stating otherwise.

So what do you suggest? Stay on the low fat crap with lots of carbs and sugar? Stay away from the low fat stuff and just eat what you feel is a health dose of "regular food" while staying away from white breads and other bad carb intake...?

I'm a wee bit confused now :)

[Whippersnapper]

I've heard that the Atkins diet works well. The problem with it is that it defies convential wisdom on weight lose and healthy diet. I know of a guy who lost around 30 pounds along with exercise on the diet. I know Atkins defened his diet for years, and it has finally been accepted as diet alternative.

On a similar not, I was reading in National Geographic about this scientist who tested a low calorie diet in mice and they lived a year longer which was significant enough to have the scientest try the diet himself, he eats about 600 calories a day, he's 5'9 and weighs 120 lbs, he's 40 years old so its gonna be awhile to see if it works out okay.

[fester8542]

Originally posted by SureShot
so the consensus here is... this isnt a good thing. I mean , most everything I have read states that is a good way to go but every now and then I see people stating otherwise.

So what do you suggest? Stay on the low fat crap with lots of carbs and sugar? Stay away from the low fat stuff and just eat what you feel is a health dose of "regular food" while staying away from white breads and other bad carb intake...?

I'm a wee bit confused now :)

Hey Sure,
I am not saying the atkins diet does not work. I am saying what I have read in many credible publications states that it is not the best way to go about weight loss.

I am not sure what your workout (cardio) regiment entails, but I found a really good guide from my hero's at flex mag. you might want to take a look at.

It is geared towards bodybuilding but would be effictive even if you took a couple brisk walks during the week.

I chopped out all the advers and posted it to my server

(darn kirupa file size restricions :) )



http://www.bestondesign.com/kirupa/low_carb_diet.pdf

Its worth a look.

[rere420]

I wasnt saying it was bad, either a friend of my familys just dropped abuot 40lbs, but he is doing more like half atkins, he is eating more carbs then the specifics in the books after the first 2-3 months of using it and it seems to be working for him, he also like 6'7" and 350 so, I ma sure his proportions are a little different, he is also a pile driver and needs the constant energy that his body should produce but the way he is doing it seems to be working for him.

Give it a **** just judge what you think you should be doing and not doing as far as your eating habits, if you want to make this a long term goal, rather thena short term one!

[SureShot]

Thanks very much to you both.

I have looked that the diet and think I am going to do more along the lines of dramatically decreasing the carbs I intake but not to the point of the books. My work out regiment is about half an hour on the crosstrainer and 15 min on the bike 3 - 4 days a week. Well at least that's what I am shooting for. My gym membership starts up today and I plan to take full advantage of it as my girl and myself are doing this together.

So what do you think - does that sound like a good plan, of course I will have weights in there as well, my friend is a personal trainer at this place and is going to help me out a bit. It's been about 2 years since I have been in a gym...and it's starting to show :)

[fester8542]

Originally posted by SureShot
Thanks very much to you both.

I have looked that the diet and think I am going to do more along the lines of dramatically decreasing the carbs I intake but not to the point of the books. My work out regiment is about half an hour on the crosstrainer and 15 min on the bike 3 - 4 days a week. Well at least that's what I am shooting for. My gym membership starts up today and I plan to take full advantage of it as my girl and myself are doing this together.

So what do you think - does that sound like a good plan, of course I will have weights in there as well, my friend is a personal trainer at this place and is going to help me out a bit. It's been about 2 years since I have been in a gym...and it's starting to show :)

That sounds like a great plan bro.

Good luck to the both of you. The hardest part is staying comitted. It takes time to see results and even longer to hit your goal. (we all have high standars when it comes to physique)

Its good that you are training with someone else. It keeps you motivated. When my last lifting partner quit on me a couple of years ago I had a rough couple of months after and then slacked bad.

It took me a few months to get back into it.

It doesnt take long to lose your motivation when you stop going for a few days.

[SureShot]

you are so right man - motivation is huge for me. Right now I have a picture of me from like a month ago that I absolutly hate, it's one of those ones that you are like "that's not me... no way" and it's on my desktop. I have to look at it everytime I turn my computer on... that makes me want to work hard for sure.

Also - I just bought a new mp3 player for working out and that's a good little bonus to make me want to go to the gym :) You just gotta treat yourself once in a while ;)

Anyone that does a lot of training - is it good to do cardio every single time you are there? I do the cross trainer for about 20 min high impact and 5 min cool down each time I go and I love it. I just want to make sure it's healthy. I feel good and burn about 400 cal. but I just have to make sure it's ok to do it all the time.