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haven
April 15th, 2007, 05:25 AM
Look at it if you like. I was feeling... dunno, darkish..

haventech.110mb.com (http://haventech.110mb.com) (i know, im a cheapass...)

~Haven

Ps. It still isnt done. I just want some crit so i can improve it. And oh yeah, i just made it an hour ago. pft.

Pss. And yes, im working on the font.

Fl4SH'ER
April 15th, 2007, 05:33 AM
well, as you said, you made it a hour ago.. if you really want people to visit your site then put more effort into it... i'm not saying it's bad, but you can't expect someone to ask for your help when you won't even put a decent amount of effort into your work ( and lol, it's YOUR personal web page, it's something special and it needs more work, detail ).

I am obsessed by detail, i like some simple sites, but i guess this is way too simple... and well, not really into the style either ( not because it;s dark, i like dark too, but you still need some time and practice before you develop an "artistic eye"... ). And well, you should stop saying things like this about yourself: "(i know, im a cheapass...)" "One thing that must be remembered is that I do work for experience, NOT money." ( <-- i understand that you want to gain experience but by telling someone that you are not into the money is just naive ) because you can't expect others to take your seriously if you don't even take yourself seriously... more self respect there bro...

And yeah, well, how to improve it ? As i said, more effort, detail... Wtf, no one is that pro to create an amazing site in less then a hour... If you are planing on doing something/anything in web design then take it more seriously and put some effort into your work.

Kind regards and good luck.
Biro Barna

haven
April 15th, 2007, 05:49 AM
So Biro, what is IN then?

Fl4SH'ER
April 15th, 2007, 06:10 AM
^ what ? IN ? :cross-eye ( like Indium ? or are you referring to "In" that American graffiti artist ? ) Aaahh, or you just misunderstood my comment a bit... well, yeah i wasn't that clear... don't get me wrong... i know that you put some effort into the page but that's just not enough :) Ok, the idea is that you are still "learning" but that's not an excuse :P Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you put some effort into it, but as you said it took you less then 1 hour... I don't know if you have any super powers or if you're an alien or something but even pros need a bit more time to create some high quality web pages ( and you're not a pro, so take some time and work on the layout... always make some sketches on a piece of paper.. plan the project before jumping right into it... web pages aren't created like sandwiches, you need to plan and work on the detail to get something right ) ...

PS: you don't have to take my comments all too personally or whatever... You asked for help/crits... I'm just trying to help with these comments... In the end it's all subjective, this is the way i see the page and the "whole idea"... Maybe others love it the way it is, maybe others hate it... we'll, i'm none of those, i just give hints/crits... if you want you can take my hints/crits if not you can just ignore them... it's your choice...

PS: "Look at it if you like. I was feeling... dunno, darkish.." Ehh, you don't have to tell us how were you're feeling whenever you post something ( it makes you seems as if you are trying to make up some kind of an excuse for what you did ), honestly everything i saw from you was a combo of gray/white/black ( and i saw you use a really light green once )... maybe you are afraid of colors or you are not sure that you can use them correctly.. anyways, everyone has his own style and well, i used gray/white/black maybe too many times when i started to web design thingie... try to use more colors, bring your site "to life" and make it look cool ! Gray/white/Black are ok, but they give a static feeling to thing ( they make your page seem "dead" )... first idea that hits me when i see such sites is: OMG did someone die ?

Good Luck,
Biro Barna

Yakuza
April 15th, 2007, 08:02 AM
I've press the "donate" button but it doesn't work...awww...:(

Speak frankly, I don't mind people who did their website in an hour if they have good ideas and good layout, black white grey can be a decent color choice if you use it well. I've actually seen some people design some stuff within 20 minute but got a decent grade in the university. (Sounds retarded but true)

Ok I've seen some basic proximity but...hmm...and I can tell you can use dreamweaver really well...and the "donate" button doesn't work...

So, where do we start now...hmmm...firstly, careful about using the photoshop effects (like shadows, bevel, contours...etc) which can make a site really unprofessional, if you aren't an experienced website designer, I strongly advice don't use it. I know you try to make a site 3dish but...you have to know how to make it look nice. And the "donate" button doesn't work...

Secondly, the buttons looks a bit...oh well...I think you can make something better than that. And the "donate" button doesn't work...

Oh...the font...u've mentioned it just now, make sure you change it into a better ones, strongly suggest the pixel fonts. Also, the way you do the vectors for the background, try to find more artistic approach instead of just slabbing something random on to somewhere randomly. and the "donate" button doesn't work...

Also, when you write the content, all I saw is "I blah blah blah" and then "I blah blah blah"...later on it is still "I blah blah blah". Make sure you write properly before you can take any web design jobs even you only aimmed on experience. Or maybe I'm wrong with ur content since I'm really bad at English because basically I speak more Engrish than English. And the "donate" button doesn't work...

w00t...you work for free!!! yay...gimme a 100meg web site, 200 pages with fancy flashy effects. And a workable donate button...

Adahiyast
April 15th, 2007, 08:41 AM
When I first saw that website, I felt my stomach churn and my soul cringe. As this is a forum for "professional" critique, I will however refrain from an emotional reaction.

Yakuza has already covered some basic stuff for me and for the majority I agree with everything he says. Upon initial inspection, the first thing to draw my attention was the fact that the image slices did not align. The quality of the images I’m sure are of a decent standard but this does not matter to a person that first enters a website. The first thing they will notice is the website looks broken and will immediately disregard it as an unprofessional piece. This is DEFINATELY not the kind of impression you wish to be giving to potential clients upon first entering a webpage.

The overall colour scheme is very plain, and while black and white can sometimes be effective, it is poorly executed in this case. The entire body of the webpage just seems to hover over the white background and the transition between the two is conflicting to my eye. You might be better with a centred piece, or making the entire page one colour. The buttons I do not like, and since there is no reaction from a mouse over, you’d be better off with a simpler menu design. The Haven Tech main title is fine; however the font for the Haven Technologies looks “unfortunate”. I do however like the effect around the body’s main text box. Although, the floating white at the top of the box against the grey background just doesn’t sit right to me.

My bet is you have completely ignored differing screen resolutions between computer monitors and designed your webpage for 1024x768. If a person were to come along with a screen resolution of 800x600, they would not be able to see your page be forced to scroll horizontally to view it all. Scrolling horizontally is a big “no no” of web design. Upon inspecting the code of your website, I was shocked to see you had simply just “thrown it together”. There was even a line in there saying where to paste the images for the table. It looks like you just copied and pasted it straight from a tutorial site somewhere and haven’t even altered the code to clean it up.

With CSS, even though you have barely used it, make sure it’s an external file. Never use inline CSS for websites due to the fact if you wish to change it, you’ll have to change it in every single file to get consistency. External CSS files allow global document management for keeping the design of a website consistent and easy to maintain. My final advice would be to completely dump the “image” based design you have, as these consume a lot of bandwidth and are rarely used for informational websites. You should be designing your website with HTML and CSS using a “balanced” number of images.

I’m not sure what level of web design you have been exposed to before, but if this were a beginner’s webpage, it’s a nice first try.

hybrid101
April 16th, 2007, 04:19 AM
When I first saw that website, I felt my stomach churn and my soul cringe. As this is a forum for "professional" critique, I will however refrain from an emotional reaction.*claps*

well mate, i agree. you've got a lot to go through. lots of design concepts and all.

not really liking the feel of the site. looks dull, nav looks awkward, and so does the header.
the content area uses a crapload of fonts, and these things are turn-offs for the site.

i'd suggest going for a simpler and cleaner look, losing the current style. though the layout is ok, the way the content is displayed is somewhat mangled as of now.

and it doesn't fit 1024*768, current standard;)

if i were you i'd use css and html just to streamine the design and content. for now though, meh. looks too ordinary.

Pasquale
April 16th, 2007, 04:27 AM
and it doesn't fit 1024*768, current standard;)

Yups: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution#Current_standards_in_resolution