Phil:As a Phormer Phetus - you should find this interesting

[RelandR]

CLICKETY (http://www.research.umbc.edu/~melissa3/portfolio/digitalart/intarwebart/postnatal/postnatal.htm)
wow whatta concept- :!:
...I think the *FAQ* page is a good start ... roam about

[Guig0]

RelandR:

That must be a joke :(


i cannot belive this happens...

[fester8542]

http://www.research.umbc.edu/~melissa3/portfolio/digitalart/intarwebart/postnatal/doctor.jpg


Example of one option of post-natal abortion. This is our most popular among more urban clients and in cases of larger more difficult "products"..


HA HA HA....this site is twisted!

[fester8542]

SPAC has state of the art facilities. Or offices are secure and offer the utmost privacy possible for our clientele. Our new patented FF (filial fertilizer) program not only disposes of the product of conception, but also recycles it, giving back to the world from whence it came.


http://www.research.umbc.edu/~melissa3/portfolio/digitalart/intarwebart/postnatal/WoodChipper%20copy.jpg


Here we have an image of our patented FF machine, hard at work.

[fester8542]

I know this site is supposed to deter people from abortion....but man did I find it funny.

[Soul]

Originally posted by Guig0
That must be a joke :(
Of course its a joke lolol :P

- Soul :s:

[Guig0]

Originally posted by Soul
Of course its a joke lolol :P

- Soul :s:
that´s what happen when you criticize something without spending anytime studing it... you make a complet fool of yourself :P :(


that´s ok, i´m used to it by now... :P

[pinx]

didn't find it particularly funny. i believe in first trimester (maybe even within a month or two) abortion but anything after that is not acceptable to me.

[fester8542]

I believe in abortion situationally.

I dont think it should be used as a form of birth control

[rere420]

I am pro-choice, not becuase I agree or disagree ( I happen to agree) but because i feel it is a choice that a woman should have. The fact remains if you feel that in certain situations abortion is okay, then you are pro-choice. You may not agree w/abortions but you believe that a woman (and I feel the man as well) have a choice. May not be a choice you would make but they have the choice.

Of course we would all rather stupid arse people not have children and people to be smart but, that doesnt happen, so would you rather abortion be a legal option that is a womans choice or illegal so even more woman are dying from illegal abortions, having MORE babies that they souldnt have adn cant support or throwing them in the dumpster. It already happens imagine if the optionw as not available? I would rather people were smart about sex but since we dont live in that world we should be realistic.

[pinx]

abortion should not be used as birth control. there are so many options out there that if one of them doesn't work, you shouldn't be having sex at all. adults are emotionally ready to have sex but there are other factors that might not make them ready to have kids (ie. financial,etc.). but that doesn't mean that sex should be taken lightly. to me, one night stands are scary because i would be too worried about disease and couldn't relax and enjoy it. sex is a great responsibility and with that comes the responsibility of getting yourself protected as much as possible.

[fester8542]

Originally posted by Phil Jayhan


See what happens when people treat sex like a recreational activity?
pj :P


I dont know what planet you are from bro, but sex it most certainly a recreational activity.

Just make sure you wrap it, and dont throw it into everyting you see.

JMO

:)

[rere420]

very true pinx....

Fester-you have such a way with words! But I 100% agree!!!!!

[fester8542]

yup.....me got class :)

[pinx]

well, what if you don't want to get married? what, are you supposed to be celibate? sex is a natural drive, not something to be supressed.

[rere420]

it is definelty a natural drive, I agree it should be between people who care about each other, not just random one night stands but, not necessarily married.

I am biased, I not only have pre-marital sex but have also lived with someone and wasun married, so I quess my perspective is different.

[pinx]

hahah premarital sex rules!! at least you know what kind of sex life you'll have if you ever decided to marry that person! remember, sex is GOOD and should be enjoyed! (responsibly, just like drinking) :P

[rere420]

I agree with you completely pinx!

[pinx]

and by the way, you don't really KNOW KNOW somebody until you have sex with them. i would want to completely know the person i was marrying.

[rere420]

here's an idea, birth control, contraceptives--both

[pinx]

Originally posted by Phil Jayhan
So, pinx, you meet a guy, have a great wild time in the sack and the best sex you have ever had in your entire life, then realize two months later your pregnant and are going to kill the unborn child...Question; Was the sex werth the life of that baby?

cheers~
pj :P



....because i do this all the time. i mean, i haven't been going out with the same guy for over 4 years now. but anyways, i don't think one night stands are all that cool (never had one) and disease is too rampant out there to be that careless. but birth control pills, the birth control patch, and depo provera (shot) protect 99%, and condoms are something like 97% or so. that's pretty good if you ask me. so what i'm saying is, protect girls yourself from pregnancy and you won't have to worry about aborting/not aborting later.

also i think parents should talk to their kids more about sex. it's not only the school's responsibility.

[pinx]

and i don't think it would take me two months to realize i was pregnant.

[fester8542]

Originally posted by Phil Jayhan


Phester- Sex is something special and sacred to be enjoyed by two married people who love each other; It isn't a recreational thing nor should it be; And little babies die every day because of this attitude you just displayed....:sigh:


cheers~
pj :sigh:

Philbo,
I could not disagree with you more buddy :)

For me sex is something that I typically share with someone I care about. However there have been a few times in my life that it was in the Heat of the moment kind of thing.

Babies dont die every day because of this. Babies die every day because people dont use contraceptives (sp?) condoms, the patch whatever. Granted they are not 100% effective but pretty darn close.

Sex is a great thing and I persoanlly find it unfortuanate that you view it in such a black and white way.

[fester8542]

Originally posted by Phil Jayhan
and when they phail, killing the child and denying it life is an option?

Heres another idea phrom not so long ago; Courtship, Self Control, Dating with Integrity, True love and Marriage;

perspective, like I said; peoples views on sex dephinately show how much they value life itself and how much they respect themselves as well. One of the problems is people just don't care about anything beyond their own phleshly satisphaction; And its obvious. They will even allow a child to be killed in order phor their phleshly satisphaction to go on....How purely selphish. Brutally selphish.

cheers~
pj :P

Dude noone is saying that they are going to have an abortion here. If I was the girl and I simply could not care for the child, I would bear it the full term and give it up for adoption. There are hundreds of thousands of parents that for medical reasons cannot have a child and would give up thier homes for a baby

[rere420]

sex is the staple to a healthy relationship. Smart sex is an even better aspect to a healthy relationship.

not everything is as black adn white as it seems. Phil if it was then you wouldnt make and exception for rape and incest

[thoriphes]

i don't appreciate how there are those out there who are entirely for destroying the fetus when they themselves are very well alive to say so. if a mother doesn't want a child because of rape or some other reason, she should give it up for adoption. a choice to end a fetus' life should put you for jail for murder. it is no different that waiting for the child to turn 5 and then killing him/her. it just disgusts me. and as phil says, as a phormer phetus i am against abortion.

[pinx]

ok so let's talk about birth control. i'll talk from experience.

i went on the pill when i was 17 and got off it at 20 to switch to the patch.

didn't use condoms (i knew my boyfriend, he doesn't sleep around..) all the time i was on birth control, and guess what, i didn't get pregnant. same with the patch.

these methods work and are definately reliable. the only way you could get pregnant is by missing pills, excessively drinking and smoking while on birth control.

[Guig0]

offtopic: who is this nameless mod?

[pinx]

thor?

[reverendflash]

surf with footers off do ya Guigo?

;)

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

[pinx]

i surf with them off because they slow down my ****ty work computer.

[Guig0]

that blows... how can you respond to a nameless person?

'hey " ": i agree with you'

[fester8542]

Originally posted by Phil Jayhan
hey phester-

Don't werry, I am having phun, although making pointed points; :sigh: But I am curious, why is it unphortunate phor me...? I am happy abstaining; So I will be curious as to how you answer this pal~ ;)

cheers~
pj :P

Sorry man I didnt mean to come off heated. Its certainly not the case. You know I love a good debate.:phil:

So in answer to your question.....this is a kinda tough one without getting dirty :evil:

I am impressed that you are abstaning. That must be tough.

It is unfortunate because sex is such a great thing. not just for persoanl pleasure but to please your partner is just as cool.

I could not imagine not being sexually active.

Perhaps its because I lost my V at 12. (its a long story and there are people here who can verify)

Its hard to explain man. When youve been with someone for a long time it can be all kinds of things. Sometimes dirty, sometimes sensual and caring kinda....

I dunno man :)

Get out there and take one for the team!

j/k

[Guig0]

Originally posted by ReverendFlash
surf with footers off do ya Guigo?

;)

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif
yep :P

[thoriphes]

Originally posted by Guig0
that blows... how can you respond to a nameless person?

'hey " ": i agree with you'
yeah, that works. :)

[pinx]

you can only be with someone so long (before marriage) before doing anything intimate. after a while it's necessary.

[fester8542]

Originally posted by pinx
you can only be with someone so long (before marriage) before doing anything intimate. after a while it's necessary.

true true....

[pinx]

for me it was 10 months. haha

[rere420]

heres two scenerios that in our society is not such a hypothetical.

there is15 years old girl and she is forced/coerced either one will do by her boyfriend to have sex, even if it is just once.

Shes pregnant--Should she go to jail for being a murderer if she decideds that she should have an abortion, or if her parents tell her she is having an abortion b/c she is not a legal adult to make that decision????
or
a woman works nights, she is walking to her car, she gets raped in the parking lot and becomes pregnant or not even so awful and graphic she has her tubes tied after her last cild because your family could not possibly afford a 3 or 4 or what ever the case may be child...she becomes pregnant-- she decideds to have an abortion in both cases--is she a murderer that should go to jail.

What if it was your wife or mother or if the 15 year was your sister..still feel that they are murderers?

[thoriphes]

ten months before you and your boyfriend did anything intimate pinx? was it your first move, or his...

[rere420]

ten months good for you pinx...


fester???? j/k

[pinx]

Originally posted by
ten months before you and your boyfriend did anything intimate pinx? was it your first move, or his...

let me rephrase. it was ten months before i agreed to have sex with him. we did a lot of stuff before that. what can i say, it was my first time.

[Guig0]

Originally posted by
yeah, that works. :)

Cool =)


thanks " " ;)

[fester8542]

Originally posted by Phil Jayhan


And I doubt Im gunna go boink someone phor the team pal~ ;)

This has to be added to the top ten best Kirupa quotes ever :)

[fester8542]

Originally posted by rere420
ten months good for you pinx...


fester???? j/k


More like 10 hours ;) ;) ;)

[pinx]

Originally posted by Phil Jayhan
Actually,

I believe por myself that those things should only be shared with my wife; (don't have one of those yet)

And the mental issues people have when their 'loved' ones phind someone who does sex better? or is better looking? And leaves them phor no apparent reason? Then the pleasure turns to bitterness; It causes mental hardship that would have been much easier to deal with and less emotionally damaging than if they had simply abstained;

I never werry about possibly having AIDS or any of the other 67 Sexually transmitted dieases; I never cringe and werry that she might be pregnant and that she might off the child, leaving me and my conscience stricken, phor I know that I would be responsible phor the killing of the child as much as her, because I could have abstained;

I will never walk around knowing I killed a helpless innocent baby because of my selphishness; Often, and many here will agree, good sex keeps two people together that would never be together otherwise, without it;

When I marry I will know she loves me, not because of the sex, but because of me; And many people are not mentally capable of separating the two;

I think these are all values; And they are a payoff to me and others who are likeminded. I also know I won't ever get stuck paying child support phor someone who didn't want to have an abortion; I will never pheel obligated to marry someone because they are pregnant; You can't see the value in any of these things phester? None of them?

hmmm,
pj :sigh:

And I doubt Im gunna go boink someone phor the team pal~ ;)

you seem like you have trust issues. been burned before?

[rere420]

Originally posted by fester8542
More like 10 hours ;) ;) ;)

minus nine hours! ;) ;) ;)

[rere420]

thats a great pick up line, you should try it...

[thoriphes]

lol, but i think that sort of thing you should keep to yourself. there's "kirupaforums.com" in "team"

[fester8542]

smooth....kirupa orgy

[rere420]

an abundance of incredibly corny jokes just came to my mind!

[fester8542]

Well all, this was a pretty good conversation....

I have to jet though, my work day is over and I have to go out and do what I do best.

Drink myself stupid for the next couple of days.

Seel you all on monday when im hung :)

:hangover: :rock: :hangover:

[pinx]

be good, and get laid. hahahahaha :P