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thoriphes
May 31st, 2003, 11:59 PM
you know how the worst computer error you could get is not turning on? well, my little problem is not turning off. i'll tell my computer to shutdown, but when it does for that millisecond or so, it turns right back on. i thought it was windows being retarded as usual, but i traced it all the way to my motherboard. i even bought a new powersupply for Christ's sake and that didn't work. now i dunno whether to have the motherboard replaced while it's still under warranty, or to just keep it the way it is and have to fully turn off my computer through the switch on the power supply.

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 12:00 AM
what os r u using?

thoriphes
June 1st, 2003, 12:01 AM
windows XP, but i know it's not windows since i can't turn it off even from the bootup screen.

ahmed
June 1st, 2003, 12:03 AM
might be the switch? like.. it's shorted or something...? try a new case :beam:

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 12:05 AM
case has nothing to do with it ahmed...;)...i think theres something wrong with ur motherboard...shortcircuit somewhere?

grimdeath
June 1st, 2003, 12:05 AM
try your bios in the power management section it might be a problem there ;)

reverendflash
June 1st, 2003, 12:07 AM
try a big magnet...

maybe it will turn off then...

:beam:

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Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 12:07 AM
i don't think bios can stop shutting down...

grimdeath
June 1st, 2003, 12:24 AM
well if you have your lan card enabled to turn on your pc when ti has activity your pc will turn on everytime it recieves data throught the ethernet card theres a few things the bios can do and also check out the power management options in windows

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 12:25 AM
yea...maybe..hardware can probably be the most likely chance

thoriphes
June 1st, 2003, 01:35 AM
yeah...checked the power management, checked the LAN for wake-on-lan...checked the case, i'm gonna try reflashing (no pun intended) the bios.

andr.in
June 1st, 2003, 02:44 AM
heh! I never turn mine off! A lil restart every once in a while...

reverendflash
June 1st, 2003, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by Syko
heh! I never turn mine off! A lil restart every once in a while...

well, yours <i> is </i> the village's only computer hooked up to the web, isn't it?

does your connection go down when the horses get tired?

;)

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reverendflash
June 1st, 2003, 03:07 AM
He's in Estonia... I thought he'd be techy enough to use horses...

my bad...

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andr.in
June 1st, 2003, 03:33 AM
The mules get tired every once in a while but I can handle it! When they do I switch it over to the hamsters!

thoriphes
June 1st, 2003, 08:18 AM
this problem may also be because i turned off my computer a total of maybe 4 times during college...i needed this thing more than i thought i would!

kirupa
June 1st, 2003, 08:24 AM
Remeber each piece of hardware and try shutting and down and seeing if it works. I am thinking that it may have to do with the power supply. When I installed a 1394 PCI card a year ago, the computer did the exact same thing.

If all else fails, you can format your computer :)

Cheers!
Kirupa :P

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 10:11 AM
yea, software might be the solution too, but less likely, kirupa is right, take out some hardware (after you unplug the computer), leave only the video card in, and then boot up and try to shut down, some of your stuff might not work because of the missing pieces, but always installable later.

sintax321
June 1st, 2003, 01:03 PM
This is not a hadware problem. I repeat not a hardware problem. It is a problem with XP. I know for a fact casue the first 2 times i had XP installed it did this. Now on my third install wiht the exact same machine and settings windows properly shuts down. It has some thing to do with the power and security settings. I dont know exactly what needs to be changed but i know it has some thing to do with that.

I went down the same hardware road and it was jsut a big waste of time and money. Play around with your settings and if that downa't work a clean install of windows did the trick for me.

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 01:33 PM
That could also be true, I've seen that when I was playing with XP a while back, goto Start->Control Panel->Power Options

Under Power Button: Make sure it's seelected as Shut Down

I know theres other places to change other properties. I'll dig them up for you when I have time, thanks sinthax

sintax321
June 1st, 2003, 01:40 PM
Ya i wish i could remember what we did to fix it with the windows settings. I had a friend who is a lot better at OS matinace come over and fix it for me. That is why i cna't remember exactly what he did.

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 01:48 PM
Yea, XP has a lot of inside stuff thats hard to get to without knowing exactly where it is. I couldn't find it, sorry.

T-O
June 1st, 2003, 01:53 PM
just pull the plug

sintax321
June 1st, 2003, 01:59 PM
Well if you really want it off yo can wait for that 2 secs where it is offline then hit your power button. That always worked for me before i reinstaled.

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 03:15 PM
wel, that can cause damages if done at the wrong time.

sintax321
June 1st, 2003, 03:36 PM
ya it is all about timing.

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 03:38 PM
but who wants to time their shutdowns every time?

JK87
June 1st, 2003, 04:01 PM
I have a very similar problem where my pc resets when I select ShutDown from the XP start menu. It's been like that ever since I installed XP...

Fortunately, the button on the case itself works if I hold it down for a few seconds. I just have to wait for my pc to try to restart and then hold down the power button. And what's worse is that it's random - sometimes it shuts down fine, other times it restarts.

JK.

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 04:39 PM
Call your maker, or Microsoft. They probably can tell you how to do it.

JK87
June 1st, 2003, 04:42 PM
It's been like this for over a year - I'm used to it now :). Also, I am going to break my computer up in about 3 weeks and use some components for a new machine and store the rest for later use so it isn't really worth it. But thanks for the suggestion.

thoriphes
June 1st, 2003, 05:58 PM
i highly doubt it's windows since it does the same thing when windows hasn't even loaded yet, or begun to. my computer is password protected right after the bios checks and when it prompts for the password, that's when i attempt to turn it off. but i have been meaning to reinstall windows...

Maxtr0sity
June 1st, 2003, 06:22 PM
well, if you think so, formatting will be the best way out. But if that doesn't solve it, then it's hardware left...

morse
June 1st, 2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by JK87
I have a very similar problem where my pc resets when I select ShutDown from the XP start menu. It's been like that ever since I installed XP...

Fortunately, the button on the case itself works if I hold it down for a few seconds. I just have to wait for my pc to try to restart and then hold down the power button. And what's worse is that it's random - sometimes it shuts down fine, other times it restarts.

Same on my 2k machine.

sintax321
June 2nd, 2003, 02:11 PM
Do you have Roxio Cd creator Platuim?

My PC was shutting off fine. I installed Roxio today and now my PC doens' shut off. I remember there is a software conflict between Roxioes CD to CD copy app and the one built into XP. This could be the problem.

thoriphes
June 2nd, 2003, 02:16 PM
naw, no roxio. i think i'm just gonna live with this problem, though it is annoying how the time is always the same as when i last turned it off.

i appreciate all the advice =)

sintax321
June 4th, 2003, 09:31 PM
Ya sorry it didnt' help much. I Found out it is roxio that coauses the problem on mine. I uninstaled it and it shours down fine. Thne i put it back on and the problem was back. Maybe another one of your apps causes it. Try unisntalling and re installing untill it starts again.

Maxtr0sity
June 4th, 2003, 09:49 PM
it's odd how programs control the shutdown feature on your computer, that shouldn't be allowed by programs...

thoriphes
June 4th, 2003, 11:22 PM
GR.....i opened up my computer, took every piece of hardware out, cleaned the case (for crying out loud...), rearranged some of my hardware, found out my motherboard battery was dead, so replaced it (i really thought this was the problem), and all that to no avail!!! my computer still refuses to turn off! Bad computer, BAD!

Maxtr0sity
June 4th, 2003, 11:25 PM
lol...software problem?