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kirupa
May 25th, 2003, 06:51 PM
Hey everyone,
I was IM'ed this rather strange decoding thing/stuff. There are three words merged into the following series of letters:

a g f p b d j j r b n g f c g c k i a c h h d a e a

Does anybody know what the three individual words are? I've been staring at it for the past 2 seconds (ha!) and I can't seem to figure it out.

Here is a file that lists the potential words that could be one out of the three words we are seeking: http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=203255

Cheers!
Kirupa :ub:

mdipi
May 25th, 2003, 07:07 PM
wow! lol i will still look

kirupa
May 25th, 2003, 07:14 PM
The PD is extraneous - meant to throw us off; I just found that out a few seconds ago....still doesn't help me much.

senocular
May 25th, 2003, 07:21 PM
thats pretty rough

heres something that might help a little... vowels seperated out and the rest in alphabetical order:


a a a a e i
b b c c c d d f f g g g h h j j k n p r

mdipi
May 25th, 2003, 07:22 PM
or me...

mdipi
May 25th, 2003, 07:22 PM
26 letters in the thing...

[Legoman]
May 25th, 2003, 07:39 PM
I would've assumed the letters would be in the order they appear in the words, but it seems impossible that way since there aren't enough vowels near the start, so maybe not.

kirupa
May 25th, 2003, 07:47 PM
EDIT: Kirupa was having a brain freeze, and besides referring to himself in third person, removed the erroneous letters posted.

Cheers!
Kirupa :bandit:

kirupa
May 25th, 2003, 08:01 PM
A list of potential words ThePope sent me using a program called Anagram Genius.

It may help :)

[Legoman]
May 25th, 2003, 08:10 PM
Kirupa, the bogus p and d were already removed, Sens list was right.

thoriphes
May 25th, 2003, 08:15 PM
lego, you sent this word thing?

[Legoman]
May 25th, 2003, 08:29 PM
no, but the list in the first post has already been edited from the original one he posted to remove a 'pd' and that's what sen's rearranged.

kirupa
May 25th, 2003, 08:45 PM
Sorry - I edited my post; I was mistaken :) Sen's post was accurate. On another note, here is another page that may help somebody out: http://www.ssynth.co.uk/~gay/anagram.html I was unable to get a workable solution - I am going to get a pen and paper and try to do this by hand (probably the way it was intended to be done) :)

Cheers!
Kirupa :rd:

kirupa
May 25th, 2003, 09:14 PM
I was provided with the solution and the method of obtaining it - I'll post it sometime tomorrow. I don't want to discourage any of you from staying up all night trying to figure this out :P

thoriphes
May 25th, 2003, 09:21 PM
wait, is it an actual anagram or is there some system?

kirupa
May 25th, 2003, 09:22 PM
There is a system. The methods that we used previously would probably not work.

kirupa
May 27th, 2003, 08:49 PM
Well, the solution is "guess this code". The solution can be found by converting all the letters to their numerical equivalents. For example, A=1, B=2, C=3, etc.

In the end, you have 26 numbers, or 13 sets of numbers. Take each set of numbers and add them together. You will now have 13 numbers. Subtract 1 from each number, and you will have another group of 13 numbers. Convert the numbers back to their graphical, letter equivalents. You will get guessthiscode which breaks down into: "guess this code".

Thanks to Raja for IM'ing me this puzzle and the solution, and thanks to the encoder of this puzzle - Anand. As is the case with most online acquaintances, their last names elude me :)

Cheers!
Kirupa :tb:

senocular
May 27th, 2003, 08:52 PM
:looks above his head:
Oh look there it goes now!

kirupa
May 27th, 2003, 08:55 PM
Yeah - all the great lengths I and a few friends went to find various C++ anagram decoders, Word Macros, etc. to solve this problem was in vain lol.

thoriphes
May 27th, 2003, 09:27 PM
wow, cryptography. that's pretty dense, and there i was descrambling the letters and such.

[Legoman]
May 28th, 2003, 06:49 AM
hmm I hate completely illogical puzzles like that. Bah! to Raja and Anand!

Ps. anyone else think that d-a-m-n shouldn't be censored?

kirupa
May 28th, 2003, 08:03 AM
Hey lego,
This puzzle was logical. It just required us to throw away our old ways of thinking. I immediately assumed that three words must be mixed up in the 26 letters without thinking that a different way may exist.

Sorry - had to edit your post; as long as **** is used towards other people, it will stay on the banned list. I don't want you to banish my friends to hell lol! =)

Cheers!
Kirupa :block:

[Legoman]
May 28th, 2003, 09:51 AM
well, what I mean is, there's no logical progression to the solution, it's just a randomly chosen system that could just as easily have been a different set of calculations.
but anyway, I'll try not to curse any more of your friends to an afterlife of eternal pain ;) was just thinking that from my viewpoint **** ain't a very strong word, so it can seem like you're saying something worse since it's a four-letter censored word...

eg. my initial post said **** Raja and Anand

Raydred
May 28th, 2003, 11:17 AM
Kwyjibo !!!!!

=)