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sintax321
May 20th, 2003, 02:31 AM
I was wondering if anybody would be interestied in a Sound loop battle. Any soudn loop app could be used as long as it can make a loop. 30-60 sec loop could be any sound style or type. Only serious challangers need apply. The loop would be put in a simple flash file nothing more then a stop and play button. I want this to be about the sound and not the control interface.

mjULTRA
May 20th, 2003, 02:03 PM
sounds like a fun battle. i'd like to participate.

I have a sound loop program called Acid Pro, that is pretty easy to use....

count me in!

sintax321
May 20th, 2003, 05:38 PM
Ya that is what i'll be using. It is an amzing program.

mjULTRA
May 20th, 2003, 06:09 PM
do you make only loops, sintax, or have you made entire compositions?

sintax321
May 21st, 2003, 05:37 PM
No i'm jsut starting to do full compositions. I've been palying with acid pro for a while now and think i want to try a battle at it.

Any other takers? Come on ppl are you all musicly challanged?

sintax321
May 22nd, 2003, 01:22 AM
Nobody else? I'll leave the challange open till the end of this week. On friday we get going so lets see some more ppl.

YoSHi
May 22nd, 2003, 11:44 PM
i might give it a go, im getting a program on monday (ur sunday) so i should be able to give it my best shot, all i do is listen to trance/techno and design (non-sound most the time) but as i said, ill give it a go :)

Dj.Stigma
May 23rd, 2003, 12:37 AM
SOUNDS like lots of fun, count me in so far but if i can't finish my entry until memorial day (monday), i'll have to leave the battle because my exams will start a few days later.

sintax321
May 23rd, 2003, 12:41 AM
ya i dont' know when the due date will be but hte more ppl the better.

prstudio
May 23rd, 2003, 02:25 PM
im up for it. DJRP in the house!

Starpromo
May 25th, 2003, 04:41 PM
im up for it... can you have a sample playing in the background too? with you certain loop playing to it...?

Starpromo
May 25th, 2003, 04:43 PM
if the answer is yes to the above then im in if not my loop will be pretty crap so count me out

ps.
the sample is practically a loop aswell but my loop with this other loop would be so cool... im making it now... but il wait for the verdict before i put it in flash or anything... :)

sintax321
May 25th, 2003, 04:53 PM
well we need a mod to det the rules and get this battle started now.

Starpromo
May 25th, 2003, 04:57 PM
so is that okay Sin?

prstudio
May 25th, 2003, 10:14 PM
i say full on sound loop
that easy...use any software you can..make it original

Jasninder
May 26th, 2003, 06:15 AM
Count me in, i have over 1 GB of loops, i use a less poppular programme called Gold wave, it works for me

Starpromo
May 26th, 2003, 12:35 PM
so i think that was a no... to me then... well il probably still make my loop avaliable on my site cos its **** cool...

Jasninder
May 27th, 2003, 11:05 AM
Anyway, i was thinking about 2 entries and length can b any, loop has to sound catchy and gripping, can be of any length, like this one. its 0 sec loop, i extracted this one from chemical brothers-hey boy, hey girl(i think tht was the name)


hope u like the idea and loop :bad:

sintax321
May 27th, 2003, 03:15 PM
i asked a mod to come by and set up some rules but hasn't seemed to happen yet

telekinesis
May 27th, 2003, 04:39 PM
Rules:
Topic: Sound Loop Battle
Programs: Any music program (Acid Pro, Fruit Loops, ect.)
Competitors: sintax321, Majeye, YoSHi, Dj.Stigma, prstudio, Starpromo, flasherjaz
Due Date: Saturday June 7th

Sorry for the wait. . . .

mjULTRA
May 27th, 2003, 05:21 PM
Three days! I'd better get started...

Jasninder
May 28th, 2003, 02:33 AM
rules dont say much... but oh well.

YoSHi
May 28th, 2003, 08:04 AM
lol im so stuffed for this :) i couldnt get the sound loop program on monday :) time to download a free trial at tech uni tomorrow and get to work, hahahah doh :(

YoSHi
May 28th, 2003, 08:07 AM
lol flasher, i keep waiting for that sound loop to progress :) i like that song and know the beat pretty well.. lol

Jasninder
May 28th, 2003, 11:37 AM
ya i call them my funny loops.These tracks are famous and ppl wud wana listen to the whole song and i really bug dm wid my loops, sort of prank :trout: just for fun...

talkin bout the battle, i dont know wat the limits are, if i can use a loop from any of the title or my find(website),at the end of the day u have to extract the loop from one or the other track or music piece.I have so somany options all ready to upload, i am just playing around wid uploading few funny ones, i dont know wich one to choose:q: :q: :q: :q: :q:

o well......:sure:

here goes another prank loop.
micheal jackson hates me:hangover:
oooooooooo thank GOD:beam:

mjULTRA
May 28th, 2003, 11:41 AM
"..so then i got a nose job,
and changed my hair,
and made my skin light...
...and if thats not strange enough,
i dont know whether im black or white."

IN LIVING COLOR RULES! :)

telekinesis
May 28th, 2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by flasherjaz
rules dont say much... but oh well. What the hell do you want me to say, sintax messaged me cuz I'm a mod so I can put up official rules! :angry:

mjULTRA
May 28th, 2003, 03:56 PM
how about this rule: You must do more than borrow a clip, and make it loop. The idea is to create, not recycle.. pretty good, eh?

sintax321
May 28th, 2003, 04:14 PM
Ya you shuld try to make it as origonal as possible. Not so much making a loop from an existing song but making your own loop. Maybe no more the 30 secs. Maybe if Dan would be kind enoguh he could extend the due date a little to maybe a week and a half or so.



PS: Thanks for helping out Dan. You where the only mod who came to help and it is greatly apprciated:tie:

telekinesis
May 28th, 2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by telekinesis
Rules:
Topic: Sound Loop Battle
Programs: Any music program (Acid Pro, Fruit Loops, ect.)
Competitors: sintax321, Majeye, YoSHi, Dj.Stigma, prstudio, Starpromo, flasherjaz
Due Date: Saturday June 7th

Sorry for the wait. . . . Date changed. . . .

sintax321
May 28th, 2003, 04:45 PM
Thanks man

Jasninder
May 28th, 2003, 06:41 PM
"..so then i got a nose job,
and changed my hair,
and made my skin light...
...and if thats not strange enough,
i dont know whether im black or white."


very right about the man........Mmm... dunno bout tht thing either;)



What the hell do you want me to say, sintax messaged me cuz I'm a mod so I can put up official rules!


yea i noticed the cute [K] on ur avtaar.......

about the rules, i dont think u were really involved wid the whole thing, u ignored all the suggestions i gave and even after u had the rules set up.Majeye came up wid this idea
"how about this rule: You must do more than borrow a clip, and make it loop. The idea is to create, not recycle.. pretty good, eh?"

wich i think was a great suggestion and was confirmed later on by sintax321

I was just confused about the rules, i posted 2 loops, indirectly to ask if this was allowed (borrow a clip) and things like that.I m new here and this is my second battle, my first one(flash menu battle) did'nt go too well because participents were not able to finish their posts,but goals were crystal clear.Illiyasmasse was the mod and one of the participents(winner too, as far as i think)
i m new to all this, sorry if i have upset u guys.But i cant think of givin my best,when i dont know wat to give....u kno:-\

mjULTRA
May 28th, 2003, 06:58 PM
lemme break it down.

Contestants are allowed to sample sounds, loops, and whatnot for use in their projects, however, you must change them somehow, chop them up, or put them in a different order. We want an original loop, not just a section cut from a professional artist. The key here is originality, and looping a 3 second excerpt from a famous artist is not original. Now, if you sped it up, and layered it with a different drum track, and added extra effects then it would be okay. Comprende?

Starpromo
May 28th, 2003, 07:08 PM
well thats pretty cool cos mines been layered with my very own drum loop... :) so il just post mine and see what happens...

telekinesis
May 28th, 2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by flasherjaz
yea i noticed the cute [K] on ur avtaar.......

about the rules, i dont think u were really involved wid the whole thing, u ignored all the suggestions i gave and even after u had the rules set up.Majeye came up wid this idea
"how about this rule: You must do more than borrow a clip, and make it loop. The idea is to create, not recycle.. pretty good, eh?"

wich i think was a great suggestion and was confirmed later on by sintax321

I was just confused about the rules, i posted 2 loops, indirectly to ask if this was allowed (borrow a clip) and things like that.I m new here and this is my second battle, my first one(flash menu battle) did'nt go too well because participents were not able to finish their posts,but goals were crystal clear.Illiyasmasse was the mod and one of the participents(winner too, as far as i think)
i m new to all this, sorry if i have upset u guys.But i cant think of givin my best,when i dont know wat to give....u kno:-\

The main point for me to set rules is by determining a due date, participants, file size, programs used, and stuff like that. The other more detailed rules is up to you. I am no sounds pro so it isn't my place to do anything.

EDIT BY KIRUPA: Let's all be friends ;)

thcpatty
May 29th, 2003, 12:32 AM
OK dudes....i'll give ya's a loop...But hey im a flash retard so i'll try my best on that behalf...if i dont get to lazy and ignore the tutorial on the flash thingymajigga........but the tuneage sitch,....well hopefully you's will enjoy the tune....but im still deciding which one i might gives ya's......thers so many to choose from that i have created......I:-) :toad:
give me time...it'll be here

sintax321
May 29th, 2003, 01:38 AM
Um battle rules state it must be a new work. YOu cant submit something that was made before the battle was started.

Jasninder
May 29th, 2003, 05:48 AM
count me out plz, thanx

Starpromo
May 29th, 2003, 07:35 AM
so much contaversy over such a simple battle... haha

sintax321
May 29th, 2003, 11:49 AM
Ya they seem to be quite a truggle sometimes to get going.

sintax321
June 6th, 2003, 07:12 PM
I know the due date for this battle is tommorw but i have aslight problem. I might not have internet service yet. I'm at my brothers old PC cause my ISP has faild to get my online so far at my new house. IF you could just bare wiht me i'll post as soon as i'm online.

mjULTRA
June 6th, 2003, 07:18 PM
What? does this mean that if i submit something i will automatically win!! alright!!! j/k

i wouldn't mind if the date was extended a while, as i have not done anything impressive.. Ive done a couple loops, but none that i think would win. perhaps another week would allow me to get something good? what say?

sintax321
June 6th, 2003, 07:20 PM
that woould be cool by me. I might be online tonight i minght not be back online till next week.

Starpromo
June 7th, 2003, 06:19 PM
Well im happy with an extra week. Im on a temp computor for a while until my one is finshed being upgraded so i prolly won't be able to put my loop in flash. So will it be okay to have it just as a download (you'd get better quality)

:smirk:
Star

dexa_007
June 7th, 2003, 06:55 PM
I just caught this thread. If the due date's been officially extended a ways beyond June 7, please count me in. This sounds like great fun.

I have a few questions / thoughts ...

1. What criteria will be used to judge the winner? Are we targeting a certain style, tempo, vibe ... ? Maybe future battles can be more specific? Just a thought.

2. Compositions should be COMPLETELY original in both melody and rhythm. If we're just splicing someone else's work on top of another program's drum loop ... hmm ... seems sorta lame-o. Maj is right -- comps should be hardcore original. The playing doesn't have to be entirely organic, but the musical arrangement does. I wonder if I'm making any sense?!?! (-:

3. Can we just submit the mp3?

Jeff

prstudio
June 7th, 2003, 07:32 PM
Here it is:

http://www.poorreflection.com/personal/PowerDJRP.wma

This is copyrighted. Completely original. That's my voice in there hehe.

Oh and if you have a subwoofer, kick it on. This baby rocks.

dexa_007
June 7th, 2003, 10:55 PM
I'm not quite clear ... are you saying you don't want anyone stealing it?!?! :trout:

prstudio
June 8th, 2003, 12:26 AM
Lol sorry yeah...lol I guess I should have got out my big red "I'm a jerk don't steal it" stamp. Sorry for being over the top. I deleted that other one. :nerd:

dexa_007
June 8th, 2003, 01:00 PM
LOL. I was just bustin' yer chops there. :)

What program(s) did you use? I'm pretty heavy into Nuendo, but Samplitude is looking better and better.

prstudio
June 8th, 2003, 01:42 PM
I used Fruityloops 3.3 - I used Sound Forge to do my voice, then brought that into fruityloops. Oh and during the trippy little break there's a drum loop in there that I made with a demo of mixman studio.

Now how is nuendo? i have heard of it; samplitude I've heard of.
The main ones I use now are Fruityloops and Cool Edit

Starpromo
June 8th, 2003, 03:55 PM
Well i made the drum loop in mine and i carefully layed it over a 2 second sample off a timeless classic so if fits just right. Surely thats as creative as doing something else but useing your own work...

As i said, il post mine and im sure if people think its wrong they won't vote.

:smirk:
Star

dexa_007
June 8th, 2003, 06:21 PM
Nuendo is great. I've enjoyed learning it. Samplitude is more transparent though; more depth and punch than Nuendo. I use the Aardvark Q10 for my soundcard and breakout box. It's been great for home recording.

How long have you been into digital recording? Ventured into the VST arena yet?

On another note, have you checked out the Studio Projects C1 mic yet? Killer mic, rivaling the expensive German classes, only waaaaaay cheaper. Amazing vocal mic, especially considering the price. It does really well on acoustic guitar too.

When's the deadline on the battle?

Jeff

mjULTRA
June 9th, 2003, 11:41 AM
thats awesome prstudio! it would sound perfect on a design site! one thing though: are our submissions supposed to be created from loops, or are they meant to loop continuously?

sintax321
June 9th, 2003, 12:27 PM
looping or non looping i don't think it matters now at this point.

I think the new date is the 14th if i'm not mistaken?

prstudio
June 12th, 2003, 07:58 AM
sounds right to me; that would have extended it a week i think -mod?

dexa_007
June 14th, 2003, 02:09 AM
It's Friday the 13th. Deadline is June 14. I'll have my little ditty posted tomorrow. Hammer falls at 11:59pm, right? (-:

... If I'd only stop tweaking the bass guitar ... :hangover:

Jeff

dexa_007
June 15th, 2003, 12:47 AM
It's June 14 ... 10:45pm MT. Just in the nic of time. :rambo:

The file size is rather large. We musicians hate compression.

Here's the link: http://www.halliday.k12.nd.us/JL/red_road.mp3


Best with a good pair of headphones.

Jeff

Starpromo
June 15th, 2003, 07:04 PM
Oh boy this battle went belly up. I totally forgot and half the other people in this battle have missed the deadline also...

Its a shame really

:smirk:
Star*

dexa_007
June 15th, 2003, 10:59 PM
Belly up? Hmm ... Can we just make a new one with better rules and guidelines; something more "official" perhaps?

Starpromo
June 16th, 2003, 04:24 AM
This one was pretty "official" but i geuss it would up to a mod. I listened to yours Dex and its pretty good. It reminded me of some 80's rock and roll. Well done.

:smirk:
Star*

mjULTRA
June 16th, 2003, 11:33 AM
Sorry, i spaced this one.. I couldn't come up with anything i was proud of by the deadline. Shame on me. Good Luck to the participants...

prstudio
June 16th, 2003, 08:24 PM
ok im going to rant here -
you can't enter a battle; not do anything; then after the deadline say hey wait- let's extend it and change the rules!
that's the point of the rules in the first place...now i myself have joined a battle and missed the deadlin; but i just took my losses - i didn't ask for any favors...

it's my opinion; people submitted their work; this thread got plenty of publicity (ex. it has 5 pages) the deadline passed, now lets vote - if only 2 people submitted work; then that means 2 people submitted it the right way. this contest was already extended forever past the original deadline...

mod we need your help on this. people can't keep bending the rules in these battles- i mean what's the point - there's no satisfaction in competing or winning if it keeps getting postponed~?

Starpromo
June 17th, 2003, 04:52 AM
Yo prs... whos bending the rules, ive just read back the thread and no one has bent the rules or wants the rules to be bent. This hasn't really had that much publicity if you look theres about 5 people who have posted on this thread, but as i said who is bending the rules?

:smirk:
Star*

prstudio
June 17th, 2003, 12:18 PM
sorry i should have been clearer, i kinda generalized; in past battles this has happened.
i'm just a rules stickler...

Starpromo
June 17th, 2003, 05:09 PM
Oh yeah i totally agree the rules ae there for the purpose of making it easier for there to be no arguements. If Dex is the only one then he wins if he isn't then it should be put to the vote. Simple :)

Star*

prstudio
June 17th, 2003, 10:06 PM
him and i both submitted

Starpromo
June 18th, 2003, 07:22 AM
Fine then, this needs putting into a vote thread.

*shouts for a mod*

dexa_007
June 18th, 2003, 04:38 PM
I agree with what PRS is saying about rules. In any case, I would like to see more people participating in the competition -- therefore my suggestion for a new, possibly improved and more publicized battle. Just my $0.02.

Jeff

prstudio
June 18th, 2003, 05:45 PM
i say we vote on this one...then hold a sound composition battle...making it two separate battles....