Shadowing on Adobe Photoshop 7.0 [Archive]

DDD

April 9th, 2006, 11:57 PM

I dont know how to do this, anyone know how? And also, if I try and do it on the background layer, it wont let me :(

Double click the bgrd layer then click ok and that will make it into a editable layer. Or just duplicate the layer. The new layer will be editable.

As far as shadowing, it can be done with layer styles or blurring, So yes your question is ery vague

Vexir

April 10th, 2006, 01:52 AM

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I prefer to select the object, dup it onto another layer and use the transform tools (and opacity, etc).

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why..?

iLikePie

April 10th, 2006, 04:46 AM

well i'm not him but i will suggest why i often prefer to manually create my shadows - you have much more control over what you do... not only can you control color, blending mode, opacity (all which i know you can do in layer styles) but you can do stuff like stretch sections of it, mask, vary the opacity and stuff... not really necessary for stuff like drop shadows on buttons, but as soon as I start doing photo manips or anything like that I find it very handy.

and if you ever need to make the shadow describe a surface, you NEED to use things like liquify or transform to accurately treat bumps or changes in the surface. as i said before, i know it's not usually necessary for 'interface' kinda stuff.

Serina25

April 10th, 2006, 05:41 AM

Thank you

gpdesigner

April 10th, 2006, 06:38 AM

:krazy: I love the wit in these forums.

I agree with faster's answer.

that's the problem . . . it wasn't wit, it was attitude,
second it wasn't an answer, it was a waiste of keyboard strokes.
gp

P.S. DDD response was an answer.

hybrid101

April 10th, 2006, 07:28 AM

wtf? what the hell is happening here?
i prefer to use blending modes and add the inner and drop shadows, much easier to make the shadows with these tools

fasterthanlight™

April 10th, 2006, 11:37 AM

that's the problem . . . it wasn't wit, it was attitude,
second it wasn't an answer, it was a waiste of keyboard strokes.
gp

P.S. DDD response was an answer.

what, so every word on this forum has to help someone in some way now?

CanisMajor

April 10th, 2006, 03:50 PM

Over the last couple of days each of my responses have been attacked by someone. And it has been a different person each time.

What is going on?

Can't we respect each others input, even if we don't agree with it?

When I first visited these forums I thought they were pretty cool and people were helping each other. But the longer I stay the more I see that it is like a shark feeding frenzy.

I come to these forums to first LEARN, and secondly if I have some knowledge I am glad to share.

There is some awesome posts in these forums and most of you know a bazillon times more than me. (I want to learn 3-D and Illustrator and I need to learn Flash better, etc).

Can we lower our egos and help each other instead of insulting and tearing down?

Okay, in response to this topic IlikePie answered pretty good as to why I do it another layer:

1. Shadows often are stretched (especially early and later in the day when the sun is lower on the horizon). This gives me more power to use the "warp" tool to make it look more realistic.
If a shadow hits a vertical object doesn't it climb it, and usually at a different angle?

2. Putting it on another layer also gives me the freedom to use the "displace" so the shadow looks like it is meshed into the texture of whatever it is falling on. (instead of just laying on top with opacity lowered).

3. My college professor where I took one year of PS would of tore my project apart for just using the "drop shadow" effect.

4. I use the "drop shadow" effect mostly for text and shapes. But for images that I am trying to make look real I use the new layer.

okay, let the flaming begin on this response...... :mu: (i will listen to something else)

gpdesigner

April 11th, 2006, 07:08 AM

what, so every word on this forum has to help someone in some way now?

No, but being polite never hurts, obviously Serfina25 is new . . they have like 2 posts, so chances are they don't know procedure.

Plus I am pretty sure ( I didn't check) but I think everytime you asked a question, no one gave to attitude but instead tried to help you in the utmost way. No you don't have to help anyone at all, but if all you have to contribute is tude . . . keep it.
gp

Pasquale

April 11th, 2006, 07:57 AM

No, but being polite never hurts, obviously Serfina25 is new . . they have like 2 posts, so chances are they don't know procedure.

Plus I am pretty sure ( I didn't check) but I think everytime you asked a question, no one gave to attitude but instead tried to help you in the utmost way. No you don't have to help anyone at all, but if all you have to contribute is tude . . . keep it.
gp I wouldn't find that offensive at all. Heard of humour? :)

Of course we must use some Etiquette (http://www.google.com)but we still need a good chuckle once in a while. Come on- it's just a forum where people chill, and talk about nerdy stuff :)

We don't need people to act as parents and tell people how to behave. I'm sure if fasterthanlight said what he said in a person to person conversation, nobody would give two hoots about it.

Chill out, and just focus on what you do and say (-: this is how little arguements snowball and eventuate into bans.

*edit @gpdesigner-

How is that attitude?

AgentFitz

April 11th, 2006, 05:00 PM

your question is very vague

so my answer will be very vague:

- Yes.

I got a quality chuckle out of it.

fasterthanlight™

April 11th, 2006, 05:35 PM

No, but being polite never hurts, obviously Serfina25 is new . . they have like 2 posts, so chances are they don't know procedure.

Plus I am pretty sure ( I didn't check) but I think everytime you asked a question, no one gave to attitude but instead tried to help you in the utmost way. No you don't have to help anyone at all, but if all you have to contribute is tude . . . keep it.
gp

if its function you want then I still win, from now on serina25 will know not to ask substance-less questions that we can't base any answer on...

And when I ask questions i ALWAYs try and give enough information so that people can help me, and if people just want to be a-holes and post random useless garbage, then all the better I'd rather chuckle every now and then then a whole bunch of lengthly nerdy responses to everything. It really doesn't matter, this isn't a university term paper, its a gosh-darn online forum, and with that I will excerise my freedom of speech and chime in every single moment I think a useless inappropriate message is needed, and you cant really do anything about so dont concern yourself with it. relaaaxxxxxxxx

CanisMajor

April 11th, 2006, 07:16 PM

....
We don't need people to act as parents and tell people how to behave...

I look forward to you to taking your own advise.

.

gpdesigner

April 11th, 2006, 10:56 PM

if its function you want then I still win,

Why do you feel it is a contest, you don't have to . . . I am not in it for any personal gain, I just thought that first contact by someone to a new forum should be met with at least a hello . . . . . not tude surely you can respect that?

from now on serina25 will know not to ask substance-less questions that we can't base any answer on...

well I guess you taught them a lesson then . . . Bravo, nice going.

And when I ask questions i ALWAYs try and give enough information so that people can help me,

cool . . I try to as well but some people are not as savy as others . . .
Look I am not trying to cause a ruckus I just thought it was rude . . .
I am not out to be anyones Parent . . . well I have a little one of my own so I am all set there,

I was just saying if you have no help or don't feel like answering a thread or are in a bad mood that day . . . don't reply . . . just move on. And if you do say something "Short" or "Snootie". don't be surprised if someone calls you on it . . .

and don't kid yourselves, it wasn't humor
gp

Vexir

April 11th, 2006, 11:06 PM

It was humor, obviously many people thought it was funny.

And @ faster, her request was pretty clear IMO, despite her lack of punctuation. I was able to answer her anyway.

P.S. I don't think my opinion matters much but I think this thread should be closed, she already got multiple responses to her question from experienced people and thus the thread has served its purpose. Anything that follows is just off-topic jargon IMO

gpdesigner

April 12th, 2006, 07:07 AM

It was humor, obviously many people thought it was funny.

I watch America's home Video's . . . theres one where some kid is doing a bike stunt and misses his mark, the bike tips over and the kid bang his chest and head against a concrete flower planter . . . .

sure I laught at home . .

but it wasn't funny the kid probably broke a rib or fractured his jaw . . . .

I am sure all the kids at Collumbine high school thought it was funny when they made fun of those two kids . . .

we saw how that turned out . . .

if you think it's funny cool . . . explain to me why you thought it was funny
prove it

gp

ya3

April 12th, 2006, 08:06 AM

Woohoo! A heated debate complete with intelligent analogies :hugegrin:

Oli-G

April 12th, 2006, 08:37 AM

Allow me to then pre-apologise for dragging it back to the playpen - Gpdesigner; shaddappayaface.

fasterthanlight™

April 12th, 2006, 12:43 PM

~ le fini ~

Vexir

April 12th, 2006, 08:35 PM

I watch America's home Video's . . . theres one where some kid is doing a bike stunt and misses his mark, the bike tips over and the kid bang his chest and head against a concrete flower planter . . . .

sure I laught at home . .

but it wasn't funny the kid probably broke a rib or fractured his jaw . . . .

I am sure all the kids at Collumbine high school thought it was funny when they made fun of those two kids . . .

we saw how that turned out . . .

if you think it's funny cool . . . explain to me why you thought it was funny
prove it

gp

1) Extreme examples.

2) Faster just threw in a joke, the original question was answered, so whats your beef?

gpdesigner

April 12th, 2006, 10:39 PM

1) Extreme examples.

yes . . yes they are extreme.

2) Faster just threw in a joke,

. . . with just the same rightiousness you think it was a joke,
. . . I didn't
. . . if you think it was funny prove it.

the original question was answered,
so whats your beef?

Hmmm, don't know how to answer this without getting unruly, but since I promised long ago I wouldn't be unruly on Kirupa ever again, I would just say that, politeness is a good thing.

You may think it's a joke because you have been here a bit and it's all inside, but to someone who hasn't it's rude . . . .

gp

Vexir

April 13th, 2006, 12:34 AM

First of all, you can't 'prove' jokes. Either its funny to you or its not. Second, if its not, as long as its not insulting, its fine. Third, how was that an inside joke? I see no specifics relating to KForum at all.

gpdesigner

April 13th, 2006, 07:24 AM

First of all, you can't 'prove' jokes.
I don't have the time to explain this to you as I am off to work, (work) that's what your dady does . . . so take time during your busy day and read this:
http://www.stand-upcomedy.com/lib-joke.htm
then when you are finished, try to apply this to the sarcastic remark previously made.

Either its funny to you or its not.

this is actually what you meant as your "First of all" and you are right,
you can't detemine funny, funny is to different people, different things . .
and at least 2 people in this thread didn't think it was funny . .
which brings you to the last . . .

Second, if its not, as long as its not insulting, its fine.

why not ask Serina25 if they were insulted 'cause you don't count.

Third, how was that an inside joke? I see no specifics relating to KForum at all.
I have no time to explain to you what an inside joke is . . .,
that's the point of an inside joke, it isn't written it's implied . . . and if you can't see how this was not a joke . . . . there are obviously greater issues.

Look we can go on with this thread until you graduate from High school
I have other stuff to do . . . just get your last word in and youre the hero . .

your question is very vague

so my answer will be very vague:

- Yes.

gp

CanisMajor

April 13th, 2006, 01:43 PM

Well, we could take a poll on who thought it was funny or not.
But I doubt that would change anyone's mind.

The question was a little vague because it depends on what you are shadowing.

I shadow text differently than someone standing (or sitting).

The "style" drop shadow is quick but limited.

You can use the "burn" tool to add touches to the shadow.

However, she did say version 7 which does not have the "warp" tool. The warp tool is very handy in manipulating a shadow.

But still, you can select the portion you want to apply a shadow to and copy it to a new layer and move it with the transform tools and apply modes and opacity to it.

Bottom line; I think they got the answer they were looking for.

Vexir

April 13th, 2006, 06:15 PM

Look we can go on with this thread until you graduate from High school
I have other stuff to do

I believe I already suggested that. No mods came tho :(

fasterthanlight™

April 13th, 2006, 07:52 PM

Wow this got lame very quickly, I can't believe some people took it this seriously... I mean come on... whats a forum without a few rambunctious teenagers doing their thing... its called.... get ready for it.... ready? its called...... LIFE.... and with life comes circumstances beyond your control. mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn theres some lame-o kids hanging around here.

*edit* Oh and I would probably care more about your point of view GP if you were the thread starter asking for help... Alas you weren't and I can't find anywhere on this page where Serina got angry for me typing that message so why must you take it upon yourself to fight other people's battles when they themselves dont seem to have a problem with the problem in the first place.

gpdesigner

April 13th, 2006, 11:32 PM

Hey . . . I am by no means battling anyone for anyone, Teenage angst is fine, I did some myself, but I think times have changed a bit.

Imagine this for a second. you may be new to photoshop . . youre doing a project and you get hung up on something. So you do a google search and come accross thia really cool site with a bunch of young and talented people.

you sign up . . . you register, and you make your post

Shadowing on Adobe Photoshop 7.0

I dont know how to do this, anyone know how? And also, if I try and do it on the background layer, it wont let me

you sit there for an hour or 2 doing other stuff waiting for an answer to your question . . . then you see the post reply is "1"

so you rush on back and you open the thread and this is what is waiting for you

our question is very vague

so my answer will be very vague:

- Yes.

:beer: nice going . . .

some cool people replied and helped Serina25 out . . and then Serina25 replied with a short Thank you . . . 2 posts that all they have.

I can't find anywhere on this page where Serina got angry for me typing that message so why must you take it upon yourself to fight other people's battles when they themselves dont seem to have a problem with the problem in the first place.

No . . . I wouldn't come back here either.
I am just voicing my opinion like everyone has the right to. Believe it or not , I respect the fact that you think the remark was funny and harmless,
trust me I do . . . .
I just disagree with that. I wish no one ill will . . in fact when you get to drinking age, I will buy you a beer :beer:
I just think that new people on the forum should be given a bit more slack, so they will enjoy a return visit . . .
Now if Fester or DDD makes a post like that . .
then slam away . . . . :to:
gp

3d Nirvana

April 14th, 2006, 12:19 AM

wow i think you guys need to chill...... faster just made a joke, it adds character to the forum..... I would not go home and turn emo and cry if someone replied to my post like that....

I think you need to lighten up gpdesigner .... and not do things like bring in actual rude comments like "(work) that's what your dady does" (you spelt daddy wrong btw) and "until you graduate from High school" ;)

just cool it, it was a joke... no harm was done until you came in and started a fight :)

Vexir

April 14th, 2006, 12:25 AM

so why must you take it upon yourself to fight other people's battles when they themselves dont seem to have a problem with the problem in the first place.

Exactly. Serina doesn't need you to fight her battles.

In case you didnt notice, I answered her question at 01:34 PM, Faster replied at 01:29 PM. I'm sure she didn't check the thread between those times.

I don't see why its a problem to crack a joke in a thread, obviously Faster couldn't understand her request. 5 miutes later, I replied with an answer to her problem. Any damage done? No.

As for being given slack, how does this apply? It wasn't a berating comment, it was just his way of expressing that he couldn't understand the request being made, whatever reason it may be.

Sorry for being so argumentative with you but I can't help it. Which is why I stick by my earlier suggestion that a mod close this thread down.

B L U E

April 14th, 2006, 01:11 AM

Guys/gals the thread-starter's question has been answered. Let's drop it.

(hope I didnt offend gpdesigner:rambo: :-/ :hurt: )

fasterthanlight™

April 14th, 2006, 04:37 AM

Ok, gp, this is my final message to you.
If its your business to start a silly argument over something so ridiculously small thats fine... whatever. I just want you to please step back and look at it in the grand context of things. This forum has over 40,000 members and a huge amount of posts and threads. I don't mean to be rude towards Serina, but this thread and everything in it means JACK. If your going to go around trying to save the world and pick apart everyone's message towards you and flip every argument to your advantage using outrageous far fetched examples every time something ridiculous like this happens, I just want you to know how big of a job you have.

And I'll take you up on that beer offer if you mission to Toronto... I am not some incessant 12 year old, I'm in college studying web design, so I myself browse this forum for help with questions I have and using what knowledge I have I try and help others when I can. So please don't brand me as someone I'm not based on one silly post.

I think we all have learned something valuable reading this thread.

gpdesigner

April 14th, 2006, 07:16 AM

OK . . . . I will (leave) your little piece and harmony alone . .
you all can continue on . . . . but before I go . . .

I think you need to lighten up gpdesigner .... and not do things like bring in actual rude comments like "(work) that's what your dady does"

but waite . . . I thought that was funny . . . how come my funnies are rude . . Hmmmmmmm

(you spelt daddy wrong btw)

Are you attacking my spelling . . I have fat fingers . . I miss sometimes
Don't make me follow you around the forum correcting your spelling . .
I will . . . . .

just cool it, it was a joke... no harm was done until you came in and started a fight :)

there is still no harm being done . . . as I said I am not made or arguing . .
why are you . . .

Ok I am out of this thread . . . see ya
gp