Looking for a Messy Table-based Layout

[senocular]

Anyone know of a good example of a messy table-based layout? Ideally, it would be nice to have the same layout table-less for a comparison. I found one using the Yahoo! main page as an example ( http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~takoyaki/css-test/yahoobeta_css.html ), but the tabled version really isn't all that bad. I want something completely raunchy. Any suggestions?

[bwh2]

what about the kForum example nokrev made?

[ditt0]

is this bad enough?:)
http://smart.info.tm/ditt0/example/cazare.htm

[senocular]

what about the kForum example nokrev made?
Which one is that? I dont think Im familiar with it

[senocular]

is this bad enough?:)
http://smart.info.tm/ditt0/example/cazare.htm
That certainly has a lot of tables ;) but I was looking for a site with a design layed out in tables - something with a lot of nesting and whatnot.

[TheCanadian]

Here's a table and CSS layout except in this case the table layout is actually very good (especially because the CSS layout doesn't work properly in IE).
Table: http://www.kirupa.com/developer/actionscript/duplicatemovie_mx2004.htm
CSS: http://nokrev.com/code/kirupa/css/index.html

Some table layouts:
http://www.draac.com/htmlextratablepage.html
http://www.webref.org/
http://www.webreference.com/dev/evolution/index010321.html

Slim pickings :gm:

[senocular]

Thanks TC!

[TheCanadian]

Glad it helped C:-)

[bwh2]

Which one is that? I dont think Im familiar with it
sorry, it wasn't for the forum but rather for a tutorial page: http://kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188743

[senocular]

Still, the kirupa site isnt THAT bad. I have yet to find a bad example.

[bwh2]

a couple i ran across without css equivalent layouts:
http://michaelgeist.ca
http://nba.com

[Jeff Wheeler]

Ha, thanks for suggesting my version, fellas.

Anyways, I'd check out some of Doug Bowman's presentations. I think once he mentions www.microsoft.com, and the new version, which validates (or comes very close).

I think he has both versions somewhere. Go and see. :)

[MTsoul]

^^ yeah

The old slashdot was terrible. It's still ugly, but it's got better code.

[TheCanadian]

Yahoo Table vs. CSS:
http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~takoyaki/css-test/yahoo_tables/
http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~takoyaki/css-test/yahoo_css/

Incomplete CSS version of webreference.com (for tutorial):
http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/step_15alt.html
More complete version:
http://www.webreference.com/dev/evolution/index051801css3.html
Original with tables:
http://www.webreference.com/dev/evolution/index010321.html
Tutorial:
http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/