Dave Werner - www.okaydave.com [Archive]

simplistik

January 24th, 2006, 02:29 PM

Not really a website persay, and I don't normally put sites up that aren't really a whole site... but I thought it was really cool promo piece. Props on the composition and the parody, pretty unique IMO. For those of you that don't know the song it's Kanye West - Heard Em Say, and you may not get it if you don't know some design lingo... or haven't heard the original song.

http://www.okaydave.com/

BoonDock

January 24th, 2006, 02:45 PM

Very kewl. Nice find there Simp! :thumb:

eurosickwitit

January 24th, 2006, 03:04 PM

its awesome, kanye west remake haha im luvin the lyrics, and the after effects flame

nobody

January 24th, 2006, 04:01 PM

That was really cool, definitely an interesting promotional idea.

2nd day

January 24th, 2006, 05:53 PM

damn... thats fun... he even took some serious time for letting know that his portfolio is on the way... cant wait!

von_dragon

January 24th, 2006, 05:56 PM

Definatly a cool promo. Saw it a while ago when he put it on bb

onemhunki

January 25th, 2006, 06:08 AM

Very nice, if a prospective employer has the time to watch it, that boy'll go far...

::matt::

January 25th, 2006, 08:30 AM

Absolutely superb, one of the best 'under construction' messages I've ever seen.

okaysamurai

January 26th, 2006, 02:56 AM

Thanks for the kind words! It was fun to put together, and has received a great response.

-dave

.soulty

January 26th, 2006, 03:05 AM

^ haha well done dave that was a great idea.

theflash

January 26th, 2006, 03:49 AM

Hey dave great ideat that was to tell about the portfolio and I think you already started showing your talent without putting in real portfolio content...

Know what you dont need to show your portofolio now ... ;)

SimplyArun

January 26th, 2006, 05:06 AM

Dave, you're a genius!

buckcee

January 26th, 2006, 11:13 PM

Dave, I'm sure Kanye wouldn't mind it! I saw pentagram's office in midtown and didn't know it was a design firm. I always wondered why they used the name pentagram.. kinda weird for a company name. Anyhow, great work!!

SimplyArun

January 27th, 2006, 12:27 AM

simplistik

February 21st, 2006, 10:56 AM

Rezzing this thread because he finished his portfolio which was awarded an FWA and I think it deserves more attention and as many views as possible ;)

Some nice mild humor and great concepts in his complete site :D

jd_wikman

February 21st, 2006, 03:52 PM

Loststarz

February 21st, 2006, 06:22 PM

Thanks for the kind words! It was fun to put together, and has received a great response.

-dave

I have seen this refered to as a "Fake portfolio" on the Jess3 linkblog and someplace else. Is this "fake"? Meaning is this really a multi-person project or some othe rtype of misleading thing?

I don't understand why almost every time I see this site it's called a "fake-portfolio".

jd_wikman

February 21st, 2006, 06:50 PM

Thanks for the kind words! It was fun to put together, and has received a great response.

-dave

Hello Dave,

Nice site, you have some very nice work.

jd_wikman

Templarian

February 21st, 2006, 07:14 PM

very impressive work there. greate transitions and i watched a few videos very well made btw.

simplistik

February 21st, 2006, 07:33 PM

I have seen this refered to as a "Fake portfolio" on the Jess3 linkblog and someplace else. Is this "fake"? Meaning is this really a multi-person project or some othe rtype of misleading thing?

I don't understand why almost every time I see this site it's called a "fake-portfolio".
I've never seen it b4... i saw it on that jesse thing... only after i googled it. but i highly doubt it's refering to the validity of the actual portfolio, maybe it was something that dave put into his blog or somethin. the portfolio looks pretty "real" to me... and reaguardless of if someone helped him or not... he's still able to show that he can provide the services needed to execute the projects that may come his way, and that's what it's all about.

j_polo9

February 21st, 2006, 08:38 PM

wow. Very nice! Is there still a link to the promo i never got to see?

The only thing is that the site seems a little unclear as to the purpose. It's a portfolio site for what? Just to show off the work you did at portfolio center? Still sweet though and the work is awesome.

why did u name the coffee machine aphelion? How is the cost of materials/finished work managed? Does the school pay for all that (like metal work for impact) ?

Also it would be cool to be able to see even more, especially for the process pages. Like on brinker being able to click on the kit of parts and actually read it.

okaysamurai

February 22nd, 2006, 02:30 AM

Thanks for the great feedback everyone.

Aphelion is an astronomy term for a certain postion between the earth and the sun. I just thought it sounded cool. Cost of materials, such as the chair, is all up to the student. I will begin paying back grad school loans pretty soon...but it was a worthwhile investment.

And by "fake", I think that person meant it was all schoolwork. As in, I didn't really redesign Wachovia's website or make a Brinker international report for a paycheck. But yeah, this is a one-person portfolio...this is the end product of two years' worth of work at the graduate school Portfolio Center in Atlanta GA, and was made with the intention of finding a fulltime job in the creative industry. The response has been really great and I'm excited to see what happens next!

Just wanted to also thank Kirupa for the countless tutorials I've gone through over the years...it has been an instrumental part in
learning Flash. Thanks everyone.

maxticket

February 22nd, 2006, 03:26 AM

I'm really enjoying this whole site. It offers a lot to explore.

Can I ask what the Portfolio Center is? I just moved to Savannah for grad studies in Interactive Design, and whatever you're involved in, it sounds like it's worth looking into.

.soulty

February 22nd, 2006, 04:37 AM

Great site Dave, alot of interesting concepts, well developed and thought out all the way through. The use of video works well and even though i havent had a chance to look at all the videos they all seem profressional and creative. I partically like the rollover event where you can see the thoughts and sketches on the logos and other various designs, nice work well done :thumb:

fancythis

February 22nd, 2006, 08:46 AM

Wow - can you build my site?

Christov

February 22nd, 2006, 08:56 AM

HOLY CRAP ... the intro alone blew me away :D

I love all the videos on your site, especially the brief about Reflect/Respect. Its not just a portfolio site, its so much more ^^

DariusMonsef

February 24th, 2006, 12:46 AM

this guy just gets cooler and cooler

http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1660285/

February 24th, 2006, 03:28 AM

wow... gr8 site dave :pleased:

i m exploring the site.. and its getting more interesting :D

petremetre

February 24th, 2006, 04:58 AM

i like it a lot and especialy the works

elya

February 26th, 2006, 01:32 AM

That was a great ride Dave !

it was really a great enjoyment going through your website and checking the works you have done. Great job man !

----

question,

what program did you use to edit and direct your short films this nicely?

thanks

wheatleyweb

February 26th, 2006, 01:11 PM

dave.... i was on your email list before it was done.....

its amazing man... you obviously show the drive, will, and the ability to make things happen..... the future looks bright man...

you're an inspiration to me...

wheatleyweb

wheatleyweb

February 26th, 2006, 01:22 PM

wow. Very nice! Is there still a link to the promo i never got to see?...

j_polo9 when you launch the site.... look top dead center and youll see a pic of dave... roll over it and it says "Kanye West"... that was the promo... check it out

elwatie

February 28th, 2006, 05:18 AM

the transition,is it done using AE?

simplistik

February 28th, 2006, 09:38 AM

this guy just gets cooler and cooler

http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1660285/
LMAO! I didn't see this b4 man I laughed so hard... :lol:

buckcee

March 1st, 2006, 05:28 AM

that's hot. dave's gonna get big for real.

.michael

March 2nd, 2006, 12:47 PM

I love it. The site was not only enjoyable to view, it was an experience! Incredible job!

minimalistik

March 23rd, 2006, 01:22 AM

I just saw this website now and I must say it was great. I liked it for the interactivity especially exploring and explaining the work that he has done. Even the small things like the Kennedy Center redesign where he showed the paper scribbles of what font is used, etc. Many people think that successfuly designers use some sort of high level branding system but it's just pencil and paper.

tobijas20

March 25th, 2006, 03:23 AM

Really great!

RevoGiant

March 27th, 2006, 02:31 PM

I love the URL hehe...okayyyyy Dave.

Ajax-45

March 27th, 2006, 04:07 PM

I went through the whole site. I love every idea, out of the box is the way to live in my book.

Soulberry

March 27th, 2006, 05:59 PM

Wonderful site! Inspiring!

theflash

March 29th, 2006, 10:16 AM

Just too cool to handle :)

Viramor

March 30th, 2006, 05:55 PM

Is it just me or is it getting quite old see'ing generic Adobe after effects eye candy? Impressive site otherwise.

.soulty

March 30th, 2006, 06:14 PM

^ yep just you :lol:

wheatleyweb

March 30th, 2006, 06:59 PM

Is it just me or is it getting quite old see'ing generic Adobe after effects eye candy? Impressive site otherwise.

thats "quite bold" of you. Regardless of what you think of his site... you cannot deny his ability.

theflash

March 31st, 2006, 01:16 AM

It's not just about the after effects man.... if you can see beyond it...

Oli-G

March 31st, 2006, 02:56 AM

thats "quite bold" of you. Regardless of what you think of his site... you cannot deny his ability.

I think his strong point is undoubtedly marketing, and scoping. He'd be an excellent creative director/design marketer/accounts manager.

billystar

March 31st, 2006, 05:56 AM

One of the most interesting sites posted for a while IMO.

For me the most interesting aspect is his drawing ability. Going through the site it was clear that learning the skills to build say a website/logotype was very much secondary to genuine creative processes like drawing. That is what will really impress a prospective employer IMO.

He clearly has the ability to apply himself to different medium and so given time to gain different skill sets can probably do whatever he wants, although I would stop short of product design at the moment!

It will be interesting to see what he delivers when tackling a real life commercial brief. But congratulations Dave!

okaysamurai

April 4th, 2006, 12:43 PM

Thanks for all the great feedback everyone. I recently accepted a job with Frog Design (http://frogdesign.com) in New York. It seems like the best personal fit and will hopefully be the first step towards a long, challenging professional life.

McGuffin

April 4th, 2006, 02:09 PM

Sweet! The guy who runs www.gotoandlearn.com said something about getting a job there recently as well, looks like they're wrangling some top guys.

Good luck :)

Solidus

April 4th, 2006, 03:38 PM

Wow that was truly a blast I havent just sat and clicked through a site in a long time. One thing i think Dave does that is so great is he makes everything about his site compelling. Even the portfolio reels are put together so well I want to watch the next one just to see what kind of music and effects he threw together. Excellent job A+.

Is it just me or is it getting quite old see'ing generic Adobe after effects eye candy? Impressive site otherwise.

Thats probably one of the most ignorant quotes I have heard in a while. Do you get sick of the CG quality of pixar movies cause they are used again and again. You say it like producing that kind of effect is easy in AE. Just like any program only people that are truly skilled with it can achieve that kind of quality.

Solidus

April 4th, 2006, 04:11 PM

simplistik

April 4th, 2006, 04:16 PM

Daves website has a lot of music that im sure is not licensed is that okay to do since these are just fictional projects or would you have to get a licence if your were using that music no matter what??
Parody's are protected under the fair use law... you can read about it here ;)
http://www.publaw.com/parody.html

Solidus

April 4th, 2006, 04:22 PM

simp your a good man.

Oli-G

April 4th, 2006, 06:07 PM

Wow that was truly a blast I havent just sat and clicked through a site in a long time. One thing i think Dave does that is so great is he makes everything about his site compelling. Even the portfolio reels are put together so well I want to watch the next one just to see what kind of music and effects he threw together. Excellent job A+.

Thats probably one of the most ignorant quotes I have heard in a while. Do you get sick of the CG quality of pixar movies cause they are used again and again. You say it like producing that kind of effect is easy in AE. Just like any program only people that are truly skilled with it can achieve that kind of quality.

I think what he said was fair, and in context - and certainly without unnecessary malice.

billystar

April 4th, 2006, 09:37 PM

Frog are indeed a top company so congratulations. I only know of them for their product work, but if they are half as strong in digital then thats fantastic. If Im out in NY this July, that is one place I would love to stop by.

FlashVictim

April 9th, 2006, 08:31 PM

Beautiful and professional, yet I think the music makes it a bit too pompous... but maybe that's because I am not American :).

prstudio

April 10th, 2006, 12:44 PM

Thats probably one of the most ignorant quotes I have heard in a while. Do you get sick of the CG quality of pixar movies cause they are used again and again. You say it like producing that kind of effect is easy in AE. Just like any program only people that are truly skilled with it can achieve that kind of quality.

It's a good site and he has a lot of talent, but most of the After Effects he is using are in fact presets using the trapcode particular plugin.

So your comparison of movies is quite different than a 2 second effect.

Granted he has to use the plugin in a neat way, which he did for the most part. There are some things I would change, but if the site got him a job, then enough has been said.

:)

Digitalosophy

April 10th, 2006, 02:34 PM

The planning/marketing/concept was amazing. There wasn't anything about the design or the use of Flash that "wowed" me. Doesn't look like much actionscript was involved as well.

Also dave said he worked on this for 2 years. 2 years is a long time which you would need to create something like this, no doubt.

I also agree with PR about the aftereffects.

Now with that said I am not taking anything away from Dave, I'm sure he worked super hard on this. But the fact is there are tons of portfolio's that are much more technically envolved with jobless creators, Dave just has a much better marketing scheme :)

Good job Dave!

NANO3

April 10th, 2006, 09:44 PM

Wow, have any of you guys rolled over his logos? It explains what he did and why he did it! :angel:

haam

April 11th, 2006, 01:09 PM

The pentagram has got a long history behind it - it's also called the Star of David. It symbolises the 5 senses. It can relate to using the 5 senses to the max, getting the creative juices out, ...
So there you have it - a design firm named Pentagram

actually the star of david (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/star.html) has 6 sides and has nothing to do with a pentagram (http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa100102a.htm)

i didn't see the promo in the beginning of this thread but i did see the website and it's absolutely terrific.

here wasn't anything about the design or the use of Flash that "wowed" me. Doesn't look like much actionscript was involved as well.

where does it say that a great website needs to use actionscript?

@dave's use of plugins - anyone that makes comments about his use of plugins had BETTER NEVER EVER use plugins themselves.

Oli-G

April 11th, 2006, 01:23 PM

actually the star of david (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/star.html) has 6 sides and has nothing to do with a pentagram (http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa100102a.htm)

i didn't see the promo in the beginning of this thread but i did see the website and it's absolutely terrific.

where does it say that a great website needs to use actionscript?

@dave's use of plugins - anyone that makes comments about his use of plugins had BETTER NEVER EVER use plugins themselves.
That's a ridiculous statement. There's good (appropriate, innovative) use of plugins, and perhaps not so good use of plugins.

I'd tend to agree - the great thing about the site is not so much the design, and not so much the technical skills (things of which are fine to scrutinise, it's kinda the whole idea of the kool sites section...) - but the innovation of how he is presenting and reasoning his concepts. He's a great thinker and creative, but like the others, I don't think the site is an outstanding display of design or visual stimulation, by any means, and I think more agree but won't join in. But it is bombastic as far as sites go, and pretty eye catching, either way ;).

The site is, more than anything, just the product of a hell of a lot of hard work.

Good on him for securing a place at frog.

Digitalosophy

April 11th, 2006, 01:31 PM

where does it say that a great website needs to use actionscript?

@dave's use of plugins - anyone that makes comments about his use of plugins had BETTER NEVER EVER use plugins themselves.

Nowhere I'm just pointing out that the Flash didn't amaze me, did it amaze you? If so maybe you should get around the net more.

And no I haven't used those plug ins before.

It seems you're taking negative comments personally, no one is bashing the site bra :thumb2: