First Logo Attempt

[Jeff Wheeler]

Hey,

This is my first attempt at a logo ever. I'm sure it's utter crap, and I'm ok with that, and I expect that.

Again, I've never done this before, so I want some honest pointers of where I could possibly go from here, and some opinions.

Please don't be too harsh, as I don't want to be discouraged from making more logos ;)

It's my name, and is intended to represent my growth into brand (logo) design.

Thanks.

[hl]

graphic designer shouldn't be serif.


the grass and the brown stuff is a bit sloppy and tall.

[Jeff Wheeler]

Thanks for the advice. I'll really try hard to listen to your suggestions.

[psykovsky]

Are you planting a weed or something? This logo represents you as one that do... :D

[Jeff Wheeler]

Ah, good point. ;)

[bwh2]

try to scale it down and watch the grass disappear.

[Jeff Wheeler]

Here's another attempt. I'm still not satisfied at all.

I never realized how difficult logo design was.

[hl]

go smaller on the graphic designer and try aligning it towards the right.

just some little suggestions that might make it look better :)

[Jeff Wheeler]

Your advice is priceless. Thanks a bunch :)

[Oli-G]

Ya... we read left to right so shoving graphic designer the right will look 'correct' to the eye.

I'm not sure but I think the grass might be kinda alienating the two words it sits between...

[Jeff Wheeler]

Yet another quick attempt.

[thesparky007]

is it because of me jeff that u started working on a logo?
cuz i always whine about u not having one for ur site

[prstudio]

the grass is too plain and does alienate the two words - i'd ditch the grass and just make the hill larger -

i like the greens, although the "jeff" green could be just a tad bit softer :)

[Jeff Wheeler]

Thanks for the advice.

@thesparkey: No. I actually saw the typography digest icon, and loved the g ;)

[Digitalosophy]

1st logo? Impressive, give yourself some more credit next time :)

[Jeff Wheeler]

Hey, thanks :) (btw, you've just made my day ;))

[hl]

move the hill up a bit. and put a worm coming out of it :P

[Jeff Wheeler]

Uh, I'll try my best.

[hl]

you don't really have to move it up, just make the worm :)

[Limitlis]

Hey if you were to vary the width of the grass from like a wavy triangle it would look nicer. Right now it just doesnt look like grass man. Nice work though and really good for a first attempt.

[Jeff Wheeler]

I added a single glade of grass :D

[NANO3]

nice design nokrev, i like it ;) move it a bit to the left so its centered

[Jeff Wheeler]

Here. I took some suggestions. It looks much less nipple-esque now :)

[Bird-E]

heheh very nice. I love the colour and style. Instead of a line, maybe the blade of grass could be made with the pen tool. Difficult to explain without showing. Keep at it!

[Jeff Wheeler]

Uh, it was made with the pen tool… :huh:

[Bird-E]

What I meant was add more depth, rather than some squiggly worm-like thing. an example I whipped up-

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/2581/grass4qm.jpg

its a little messy, but id recognise that as a blade of grass. Either that or seaweed (-:

[Jeff Wheeler]

Ah, I see what you mean.

Care to tell me how you did that? I am clueless in Illustrator (in case you didn't realize, this is basically my first time using it).

[TheCanadian]

I love this one. That's an awesome logo in my books :love:.
http://www.kirupa.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29977&stc=1

[Jeff Wheeler]

Thanks :)

That's a much better reaction than I expected for my first logo concept.

[TheCanadian]

I honestly wouldn't change a thing. I keep coming back to this thread just so I can look at it (call me weird) :thumb:.

[Jeff Wheeler]

Wow. I'm, uh, flattered :)

[Pasquale]

Ahahah all this progression in one day :D
NICE jeff :P!

[theflash]

Logo looks good... cong on your first logo nokrev...

[applejelly]

love it :) the colours are good, typography is good, and the hill with the flower is a good final touch.

[G]

the flower one is by far the best in my opinion, whether or not it will look as good when at a much smaller size is another matter. Good.

[Jeff Wheeler]

Thanks :)

I guess I need a place to use this now…

[Sliker_Hawk]

A chance to critique Nokrev. I must take it!

I like the final design, but I think the mound looks a bit too tall. Maybe you could soften the top of it a bit.

Good colours though, and they go perfectly with your site.
So.. Great! Especially for your first logo.

Canadian, I do that too! ARGH!

[Jeff Wheeler]

You mean something like this?

Oh, and does anybody have a better subtitle? "graphic designer" is crap.

[Sliker_Hawk]

Yeah, like that. See what other people say, of course.

I can't really think of a better subtitle for you - think of something witty, you seem to be capable of that (I like your new sigs by the way (or at least, I havn't seen them before)).

Year~edit: 'Able of doing that' ? I can be stupid...

[Jeff Wheeler]

Many of my sigs are user submitted… hence the title user submitted phrases (the others are always mine). Thanks :)

[hl]

unserif the subtitle!

[Jeff Wheeler]

Oh, sorry. I did that to test it out, and forgot to undo it when I saved.

[ileana]

i´d like to know which concepts you tooke into concideration to make your personal logo before suggestin anything.

[Pharoh32]

http://online.caup.washington.edu/courses/larcwi01/larc440/illustrator_home.htm

This will help you get a good start in illustrator.

[Jeff Wheeler]

Thanks for the link Pharoh.

@ileana: I figured I was growing my logo skills, because this was my first attempt, and therefore made an icon which represent this growth.

[ileana]

If you´re trying to represent your growing, i´d also choose the flower instead of the grass. Grass is rough, savage; the flower is a better representative of harmony, which is a nice word to describe what a designer seeks for.

You should try the logo in black and white, that´s what i do in order to check if it works as a logo. Another thing is size. You shold try some other aplications too. Imagine that you´re very succesfull one day and you want to get your own t-shirts printed, imagine your logo on them.


unserif the subtitle!

I don´t like saying do this or that, but i desagree with harish. I saw the sans serif version and i think it takes a little of that harmony you accomplished in the whole composition.

(please excuse my english i´m trying to express my self as good as i can)

[BoonDock]

I honestly think it might be a little too much to make into a logo. I'd work just with the name and the hill thing you are trying to work with. Then you could always add the "graphic designer" "designs by" "graphics" "design etc." etc. etc. etc. Focus on that more than anything. Gotta find something to represent you, and that someone will be able to spot out of a business card stack, or letterhead stack or just in a visual sense. I think you have some great ideas and that you are on the right track. So as you have been doing, just pay close attention to all the advice that has been given. I think you are almost there, I don't think that the flower necesarily works, but I'm sure you could find something, possibly even a small sappling growing out of it...i dunno keep playing around with ideas till it hits you and you are def. fixated upon that design.

[Jeff Wheeler]

I can't express the usefulness of y'all's suggestions :)

[TheCanadian]

I can't express the usefulness of y'all's suggestions :)
:lol: - Your taking of critiques is so polite.

[Jeff Wheeler]

Your mom's taking of critiques is so polite ;P

[Pasquale]

ahahhah
Hey how about u use this as your footer but also have random quotes as the subtitle?

[Jeff Wheeler]

Not a bad idea :)

First I need to make my footer work with my new host though.

[deletedUser459]

Your mom's taking of critiques is so polite ;P

hio!!!

[=guinness=]

I don´t like saying do this or that, but i desagree with harish. I saw the sans serif version and i think it takes a little of that harmony you accomplished in the whole composition.


I actually agree with harish. when you have different point serifs especially with the smaller darker subtitle you draw attention way from the main part of your logo. they create a competition for focal point. in this case the focal point should be the name since the subtitle is a "subtitle" and should be less prominent than the name. the serifs above create a nice elegant look and are easy to read due to their size. the subtitle in sans-serif is a little more muted as a subtitle should be, i think the gray was a better color and gave the logo a better hierarchy.

[Jeff Wheeler]

Alright, I'll change it soon.

[freeskier89]

I like it :D There are a few minor suggestions that I can give, otherwise its looking great.

I personally like sans fonts better for a logo. Also I think that the hill with the grass should be thicker. I think the Wheeler and Jeff should stand out from each other a bit more.

I attached my quick shot at your logo just to show you kind of what I mean. :D

[slumgutt]

That looks nice, freeskier.

But why are you designing Nokrevs logo? I mean... The point is to make him design it better himself, right? Well, forget it. I'm just saying I wouldn't like it if I were Nokrev.

It still looks nice tho;)

[Sinister Shadow]

Great job nokrev! The logo looks great, so much progress in a day! Well done!

Now, to start on my logo...

[freeskier89]

But why are you designing Nokrevs logo? I mean... The point is to make him design it better himself, right? Well, forget it. I'm just saying I wouldn't like it if I were Nokrev. I totally agree. I was just bored and made it to emphasize my ideas. Never did I suggest he should use this one. I did not to mean to spark controversy. I really didn't think that he needed to change his first logo all that much. So hopefully you do not mind me posting that. Hopefully in isn't perceived as harmful, but rather as just a visual representation of my ideas. If you thought I designed a new one because I thought that his one needed to be totally replaced, that is definatly not the case. If I intended to use it as I described above I do not see how it could be harmful.

On the other hand, thanks for saying it looks nice slumgutt :D @Nokrev It hase really progressed in a day :) Looking nice ;)

[slumgutt]

I get it... Anyway, I think it's great you are willing to do a lot of woork to help others!

Cheers:beer:

[B3NKobe]

@Nokrev: Looked through all the progress of your logo so far & will say it looking pretty nice, when I look at it, it reminds me of you, not sure why I think its the style, nice soft colour & i think it will suit your site great, keep up the progress (if you do anymore) ill be watching :thumb::thumb:


@Free's Version: Looks nice mate, a few small fine tuning & that would look great :thumb:

[Jeff Wheeler]

@freeskier: Amazing. That's beautiful :)

I take no offense at all. Thanks for doing that, it really does help emphasize what you were trying to say.

@Sinister Shadow: Thanks :)

@slumgut: Don't worry, I'm not sad ;)

@ben: Thanks a bunch :)