Designing a new logo what do you think

[NoirWD]

Sup guys, just wanted a critique on a logo i'm working on and would appreciate some constructive crit.

what should I add, colour suggestions and the sort.

Thanks for your time in advance.

[thedaveyb]

spice it up dude.. its flat.. drop shadows bevels gradients glows etc.. all if used nice add lovely lil touches.. try moluv.com for a similiar idea based logo as yours..

[NoirWD]

yeah I was thinking of adding some more effects, I'll play around with it a bit, thanks.
Noir

[Bird-E]

It has potential. Seems a bit bland at this stage, but if you keep at it, character will build with time. :)

[Berg]

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dark. used font has to visible so you have to go with light blue or white

font. You wanted a 3d effect on that ball and ... it didnt work. Fonts are too smal.

3d effect. this didnt work either. If you want to do it correctly use a lighter shade of blue and do it without balc outline. Instead of ball shape go for the disc look and try to do the highlight in a tear-drop shape.

usability. will look bad on a website, worse on anything else.

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idea.

[Sillapanon]

I think you may be add shadow And light on it ,like icons on WINDOW XP.And fonts are hard to read if the scale of this logo is smaller.

[NoirWD]

thanks guys i will take all of these suggestions into consideration.
Noir

[senocular]

I agree with berg. First think I thought was too dark and small font

[bwh2]

spice it up dude.. its flat.. drop shadows bevels gradients glows etc.. all if used nice add lovely lil touches.. try moluv.com for a similiar idea based logo as yours..
that's not what logos are about.

anyway, the logo's 1) not very legible (both b/c of contrast and font size) and 2) not scalable (try scaling this down smaller and see how the text becomes even more illegible.

[topsub]

good start keep going with it

[BoonDock]

Def. need a better font choice, and it is a bit dark. I suggest not going into a lot of detail though. You don't want the logo to be hard to understand, you want it to represent you, and be easily remembered. So shy away from any "effects" as stated above and stick with simple yet effective vectors and the such. (as you already have)

[NoirWD]

thanks guys...yeah I was trying to keepaway from too many effects, just wanted to keep it simple.

[Sliker_Hawk]

Like most people, it seems a bit bland (I don't mean most people seem a bit bland... You knwo what I mean). Give it effects, but don't give it really heavy bevels, glows or shadows. I think the blue colour could be brightened a bit aswell, because at the moment it's not really hard to read, but you know.

I agree with most above me.

[NoirWD]

sup guys,

I totally changed my new logo, i took a different approach, I scratched the first attempt.... so please critique again. thanks.

Noir

[applejelly]

Please, please stop with the 3D. It does NOT work. When have you ever seen a big-name company use a 3D logo? I've never seen one. It makes it look very tacky, Im sorry. Also, in my books, bevel on text is a big no-no. It dosen't work, unless you really know what your doing. I would never go for a bevel. Its good that you tried to bring in some colour with the orange, bu it doesn't fit with the others. Try something simple. Work out what your company is about. For instance, check out nokrevs new logo. He included the grass/flower to show growth, try working out some kinda meaning, or atleast pretend to :P

Dont be discouraged by what I said, that the worse you can do. Trust me, its getting better from the last one. Keep working at it, and you will get there. Good Luck! :D

[NoirWD]

thanks, I this crit is what i need, and what most people need, I was thinking not to use the bevel effects and keep it without the 3d effect. thanks

I was thinking of something more along the lines of this...

[applejelly]

Getting better, but its going back to the blandness of the first one. use brighter colours, it'll look much, much better.

[matriculated]

Check out this page for some inspiration:
http://www.pixellogo.com/catalog/All-Logo-Designs-p-1-c-334.html

While I don't like the fact that these logos have been created for no one in particular (and thus, lack personality) they are very well done and professional. See how they are mostly flat color and iconic? Even the 3D ones are very simple and use very little color - little or no gradations. The simpler the graphic, the easier it is to remember. The cleaner it is, the more professional it looks.

When I create a logo, I usually use 2 colours at most... and one of the colours is going to be black. That way, when printing business cards or letterhead, the costs are minimal, and reproduction is easier.

All imho, of course.

[NoirWD]

cool, it does look better and I will work on the colours

[jay-em]

Maybe bring that orange back in for the "N"
OR just use white.... But yea, much better ...
Beveled text is a big "no no" IMO.

PEACE,
JM

[NoirWD]

Check out this page for some inspiration:
http://www.pixellogo.com/catalog/All-Logo-Designs-p-1-c-334.html

While I don't like the fact that these logos have been created for no one in particular (and thus, lack personality) they are very well done and professional. See how they are mostly flat color and iconic? Even the 3D ones are very simple and use very little color - little or no gradations. The simpler the graphic, the easier it is to remember. The cleaner it is, the more professional it looks.

When I create a logo, I usually use 2 colours at most... and one of the colours is going to be black. That way, when printing business cards or letterhead, the costs are minimal, and reproduction is easier.

All imho, of course.

Thanks, that site is helpful.
Noir

[NoirWD]

There are 2 adjustments that I've made. here they are.

[bwh2]

i would try to make it in just b&w for right now. you have contrast issues which make the N hard to read.

[cameron_]

Please, please stop with the 3D. It does NOT work. When have you ever seen a big-name company use a 3D logo? I've never seen one.

UPS comes to mind

[Zach-E2]

here's my stab..
obviously, this is good for web, but not so much for print.. but it'll look fine on both. now you may want something a little more solid.. patterns or whatever aren't really a good thing to have.. i was just messing around.

i don't know.. thoughts?

[Zach-E2]

and to reply to the "ups" comment..
all ups did to their logo is add a little lighting to make it look "modern"
lighting and small shadows make a huge difference to a logo

[NoirWD]

i would try to make it in just b&w for right now. you have contrast issues which make the N hard to read.

I'll try that. I know i need to adjust my colours but thanks

[NoirWD]

Here are some colour changes, how are they?
Also I need some suggestion for the Letter.

My company name is Noir Web Development, if that helps with the suggestions.

Noir

[matriculated]

OK Noir, try this: in photoshop, convert your logo to grayscale. Now ask yourself, "Does it stand out? Does it have enough contrast?"


UPS comes to mind

I believe that the 3d version is used only on their website.

OT: They really should have stuck with their old logo - it was such a classic.

[Zach-E2]

OK Noir, try this: in photoshop, convert your logo to grayscale. Now ask yourself, "Does it stand out? Does it have enough contrast?"



I believe that the 3d version is used only on their website.

OT: They really should have stuck with their old logo - it was such a classic.

that "3d" version is used everywhere are everything that it can be used.
huge trucks, packages, etc..
i kinda like their new look. i wouldn't argue with you if they had totally changed the logo like sprint did, but they didn't. cingular did a great thing, but sprint screwed themselves

[Pierce Bronkite]

Not enough contrast is my first thought. Seems to blend together too much.

[NoirWD]

it seems to stand out ok in greyscale, I just need to make the colours contrast well.
mind u i'm not the greatest photoshop designer, but i'm learning so bear with me.

Noir

[matriculated]

Hehe - you're living up to your name NoirWD! Personally I think it's a pretty even contrast - there's hardly any difference between your lightest areas and your darkest areas. Ok, I loaded this up in PShop and your front band is 87% black and the N is 84% black. That's only a 3% difference in tonality ...and these elements rest on a 100% black ball.

Imagine reading a newspaper covered entirely of you're greys with black type - wouldn't that be hard to read? If you want your logo to pop, it needs much more contrast.

[NoirWD]

Hehe - you're living up to your name NoirWD! Personally I think it's a pretty even contrast - there's hardly any difference between your lightest areas and your darkest areas. Ok, I loaded this up in PShop and your front band is 87% black and the N is 84% black. That's only a 3% difference in tonality ...and these elements rest on a 100% black ball.

Imagine reading a newspaper covered entirely of you're greys with black type - wouldn't that be hard to read? If you want your logo to pop, it needs much more contrast.

thanks for pointing that out i'm going to adjust that

[Zach-E2]

that image still looks too 3d for my tastes..
might as well make the circle 3d if the banner is made look like it..

[SPAD3S]

Its good just add a lil more

[NoirWD]

Hi guys, here is another stab at a new logo.
It a little more simple but I don't think the blue fits in well but maybe it does.
let me know.
thanks in advance.

Noir.

[BoonDock]

that last one is the best next to the very first one you posted...except it's still looking 3d, which is alright with this one, it's much better than that ball you had going for awhile...

[NoirWD]

yeah I wanted to avoid the 3d look, but this 3d effect kinda makes it look really simple and bold....what do you think about the colour.?

Noir.

[dinamik]

well i´m not really sure about 3D logo...

never seen a big company with a 3D logo and to make a positive critic i think that's look like a 3D stuff...not a logo

dinamik (http://www.dinamikmultimedia.com)

[BoonDock]

I dig the color, but the 3d might hurt ya later on. Your call obviously.

[NoirWD]

I'm thinking I might stay with the 3d effect for now until I come up with a flatter logo.
But thanks anyway...and I know big companies don't have 3d logos, but Noir WD might be one of the few. :D
I know its not your fortey but is there anything that you guys might fix?
Thanks.
Noir.

[Zach-E2]

um.. the new logo reminds me of cartoon network or like an anime superhero logo.. if that's the target, sweet.. if not.. i don't know, man. i live by the phrase KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid

[thedaveyb]

try a white background first....i think the dark contrast is stifling your creativity...

[rawnewdlz]

I think this logo is the best one. Perhaps change the black outline to a lighter color so it wouldn't look like a cartoon? I like it!

[NoirWD]

try a white background first....i think the dark contrast is stifling your creativity...

Cool, i'll try that.
Noir.

[NoirWD]

I think this logo is the best one. Perhaps change the black outline to a lighter color so it wouldn't look like a cartoon? I like it!

I'll play around with the outline a bit. thanks.
Noir.

[Icehawk]

use your first picture put change the colors so it looks like a deep black pit and make it shiney

[Zach-E2]

use your first picture put change the colors so it looks like a deep black pit and make it shiney

1. there is only depth shown on the bottom
2. too much text for such a small area
3. not much of a logo
4. shiny doesn't to well as a logo (especially corporate)
5. he's made improvement from this image, push him forward

[NoirWD]

Thanks Zach-E2, I'm just going to continue on the lastest one, so if u would like to critique the last one I'd appreciate it... \thanks
Noir.