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andr.in
April 4th, 2003, 12:46 PM
Only in America...
can a pizza get to your house faster than an ambulance.

Only in America...
are there handicap parking places in front of a skating rink.

Only in America...
do banks leave both doors open but chain the pens to the counters.

Only in America...
do people order double cheese burgers, a large fry, and a "diet" coke.

Only in America...
do we leave cars worth thousands of dollars in the driveway and leave useless things and junk in boxes in the garage.

Only in America...
do we use answering machines to screen calls and then have call waiting so we won't miss a call from someone we didn't want to talk to in the first place.

Only in America...
do we buy hot dogs in packages of ten and buns in packages of eight.

Only in America...
do we use the word "politics" to describe the process so well: "Poli" in latin meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "blood-sucking creatures".
lmao! Glad I don't live in America! :P

Lynx
April 4th, 2003, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Syko
Only in America...
do people order double cheese burgers, a large fry, and a "diet" coke.
balanced day ration :crazy:

haha, very good diet =) :trout:

Marz
April 4th, 2003, 01:53 PM
*lol*..... To both of them... Thanks for clearing up those main points though Philbert.. I was gonna rpely to them but no need now :beam:

playamarz :player:

andr.in
April 4th, 2003, 02:08 PM
lol phil! good point! =)

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 02:30 PM
...do ten thousand people die from guns every year.

The numbers in canada? 100 or so.
------------------- Britain? Like, 50.
Nowhere does this number even come within a twentieth of the U.S. rates

America is a godawful place to live, and for no apparent reason.

I'm proud to be canadian, Philbert, so try insulting us all you want.

reverendflash
April 4th, 2003, 02:36 PM
Aislin:

How many suicide/capita?

How many robberies/capita?

How about a dollar that is worth 65 cents?

How about 5 months of winter?

How about 2 months of hot and miserable summer?

Do you want me to go on?

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 02:39 PM
How about your dollar is failing while ours goes up (currently 70c, thankyou), how about weather isn't a constant thing by country. Remember, when you step across the border, the temperature doesn't drop forty degrees.

the first two things, give some numbers and maybe I'll pay attention to them.

How about living conditions are more important than a measly quarter? How about you think about every single one of those people that died and how many lives are ruined by your horrible gun laws and irresponsible bastards running around.

How about I can go on, and while you whine about sweet nothings, I have facts that mean something, to a lot of people.


-----
Something I forgot to mention

The value of one nations dollar in comparison to another's means nothing. It's pretty stupid, actually.

Anything I buy in Canada costs roughly as much as in the States.
My dollar is worth less, yes, but it is balanced by the prices of the goods.

You buy your pack of gum for a dollar, for example, and your dollar is a dollar and fourty cents here, and that's how much I would pay.
Well, if gum were to cost a dollar U.S.

Anyways, just reminding you that that means nothing. Sorry to bust your bubble.

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 02:50 PM
I guess you should've, LoL.


Only in America. :P :P :P

SureShot
April 4th, 2003, 02:56 PM
OH man, I am not even going to get started in this conversation :)

*runs to the back of his igloo to feed his seal generating power to his computer*

reverendflash
April 4th, 2003, 02:57 PM
Aislin:

Living Conditions? That is terribly subjective.

I am comparing the Great White North to the normal latitudes... Not NY, or Minnesota, or even Chicago. I am talking about the places most Americans wish they could live... The moderate zone of the continent. By Geographical location alone, Canada in General will be a good 40 degrees cooler in the winter than it currently is where I live (and in LA and the South, it is even warmer). In the summer, the temp in the major cities will be hot and humid, while I bask in moderate temps with a nice coasterly breaze.

Glad to hear your money is on the rise. It's about time. How long has it been since it was worth $1 US?

My response about your gun stats... we have to stop saying "the other countries do it this way," since we have allowed guns for over 200 years, they are here to stay, like it or not. Do you seriously think that if we took the same tack as England and outlawed guns, took them away from our Police, that the murder rate would go down? You can't compare the US to any other nation, since we were founded on Independent rebellion (Canada still hangs on to the Queen's apron strings), and most others were formed by Monarchs...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

Marz
April 4th, 2003, 02:58 PM
Yeah... That's 10,000 people dying to gun wounds. That's actually not too bad considering other countries who just "kill" their own kind...

Then we have to take into affect the fact that no country is stupid enough to invade America... Know why... Cause every crazy bastard here has at least one gun in their house... You wouldn't have to worry about our army defending the nation.. we have enough crazy bastards with guns defending it..

Now... That's not a great point but it eases my nerves.. hehe..

Rev wasn't saying that it drops 40 degrees as soon as you cross the border.. He was merely stating the fact that your climate has a naturally longer winter and more brutal summer system than outs. Of course if you go to arizone you'll find brutal hot temps and if you go to detroit you'll find brutally cold winters... But that's not everywhere in the country... Very rarely will you find that our entire country is stormed by freezing weather or brutally hot weather..


America is a godawful place to live, and for no apparent reason.

Why is it such a god awful place to live? Have you actually lived here? And I'm tlaking some respectful places.. Not talking huge cities like Detroit and New York City.. I'm talking about where I'm from or some of the small towns and everything else. Or are you going by the news and what you've heard from.

The sheer fact is this... Yeah.. we may kill a couple thousand by gunshot because a couple of stupid people "overthrow" their right to bear arms... But at least I feel safe knowing that if a country were to invade that we'd put up one hell of a fight.

playamarz :player:

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:04 PM
We do not 'hang on the queen's apron string', rev, far from it. Most canadians dislike the monarchy, and all countries recognize canada as fully seperate from Britain, ever since we defined modern warfare and saved the world a few times back in 1914-18. Oh, but you guys wouldn't remember that, <b>you weren't there.</b> :P

I didn't say that you should get rid of guns. Canada hasn't. Do you know how many guns are in Canada? The hell of a lot, I'll tell you that. We hunt, you know. We have police. We have special forces. We have a military (though not a great one). Canada is so similar to the U.S. it's not even funny. Why is it that you have such a high death rate by guns, while we don't? It makes no sense. Your country is just screwed up.

Moderate zone of the continent. Hm.
Like, 90% of our population lives within 10-odd miles of the Can/U.S. border. Something like that, anyways. We may own the great white north, but we don't all live there.

SureShot
April 4th, 2003, 03:06 PM
Phil you are funny as hell man :)

Rev - our dollar was worth more than yours in the 80's and has only recently gone down (within the last 10 years) Again, our prices also reflect our wages. We make more than you do as an average but your prices are lower... evens out I think.

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:08 PM
Playamarz

My opinion of 'god-awful' was based solely on the fact that so many people die that way. I've been to the states, and I'm well aware that it's pretty much the same as Canada, except for there's a lot more slums. That has to do with the population, yes, I know.

Your argument about crazy bastards makes no sense whatsoever. Countries don't invade because they don't want to get teamed up on by every single other country in the world. They're not stupid. That is what would happen.

A countries military is far from concerned about a few morons who own a rifle. I'm sure they'd be real hard to take care of. They can survive huge explosions, I'm sure.

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:11 PM
Ph. Nasty. I'm winning! I love winning!
--------


Kroon sounds like something from a Donkey Kong Game! HAHA!

reverendflash
April 4th, 2003, 03:12 PM
Aislin:

I didn't say you did. I am saying look at the fact that you are a lot further north than I am. Personally, I wouldn't live within 500-750 miles of that border... too dam cold.

And you are still hanging on... The Queen is on your flippin' money! You have a Provence named "British Columbia."

And...

And quoting how you saved the world almost a hundred years ago is like a 50 yr old man braggin about winning in High School football...

Plus, your baseball teams suck...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:14 PM
we beat you in the olympic hockey. and baseball sucks. :P :P :P

2nd - Why would we change the name of a province after it's been called that for a few hundred years??? A-wha?

3rd - She's on our money because it's tradition. My prime minister may be a turn-coat, but we're not <b>all</b> Americans, LoL!!!

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:15 PM
Ahem-
I'm never gonna stop bragging about world war 1! Never! not even for a hundred gajillion kroons!

Edit:

I will stop bragging about anything you tell me to for a hundred gajillion kroons.

Edit again:

I'll do anything except stuff that will put me in jail or make me dead for a hundred gajillion kroons.

Edit Edit Again Again:

Well, maybe just a couple years in jail. 3 tops.

AnOraK
April 4th, 2003, 03:19 PM
pj i'm rotfl man...

kroons

ha ha

reverendflash
April 4th, 2003, 03:21 PM
of course you beat us in hockey... You invented the stupid game...

You have a parliament, not a congress, like which country? Your money comes in multi colors like which country? Your country has socialized medicine like which country?

Where in America did you travel? Have you been to middle America (where most of the population actually lives)?

And your thoughts about the military is just exactly how the King got his arse whipped 200 years ago...

Canada is just so happy to have the largest open border in the world with the "World's Policeman", that they don't want to look like a copycat, so they hang on to the "tradition" of the Monarchy. It kinda gives them a feeling of a proud past (which they really don't have other than fur traders and hermits)...

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:28 PM
I've been to a couple of places. New York, near Chicago, Detroit, and when I was like, 6, Florida.

As if your past is good. Every single bad thing that's hapenned to you was brought onto yourself by your own actions.
Including September 11th. ESPECIALLY September 11th.

Are you honestly saying that because of those similarities we are 'hanging on to her apron strings'?

Honestly?

Really?

When you become a country of your own, you don't change every single thing you did before.
Newsflash: Lots of countries have multicolored money.
Guess what: We have a better healthcare system than you, is that bad? I certainly hope you don't think so.

Anyways, I can't remember if I was going to ramble on, or if I was going to state some more facts, but either way, I can't remember, so... *clicks submit*

AnOraK
April 4th, 2003, 03:29 PM
just for the record rev...

we are a separate country who have our own parliament....kinda it's REALLY governed south of the border and we have to get stuff cleared there....it sucks...

we have to use their money and when we go south they subject us to holding up our notes to the light 2 see if they are real - we simply do it back to them when you get your change ...

Unsure about the king thing?

Was Elvis involved?...

just a thought???

do the moooses in canada eat cheese?

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:31 PM
I guess if you starved them they'd eat cheese, but I think they eat apples and stuff... or something.

AnOraK
April 4th, 2003, 03:34 PM
he he...

in scotland we would call a mouse a "moose"

AnOraK
April 4th, 2003, 03:41 PM
pj i'm still laffing about this!!

"ha ha---Estonians call their money Kroons---"

great image to go with it....

i nearly fell off my seat

Marz
April 4th, 2003, 03:42 PM
How much do you make then?

I've worked light work in the past and have brought home a paycheck of $500 every week... That was light work. Imagine what I brought in when I was working masonry :beam:

We have high death rates because we have larger areas of densities of people... Think about New York City and Detroit... Detroit alone probably makes up half of those death rates by weapons becauseof all the gang warfare and slum areas... I've been there before and I've been shot at before... For resting my arm out my stepdad's car window in Downtown... Scared me ****less... hehe..

So if we took out the slum areas of NYC and Detroit.. I'm sure that number would be around 2000. Which when compared to the amount of people we have living here...

Here.. I decided to look up some figures between the USa and Canada :) USA in Italics and Canada in Underline..

Population
280,562,489
31,902,268

Death Rate
8.7 deaths/1,000 population
7.54 deaths/1,000 population

Note :: For having alot of gunshot wounds our death rate isn't that much higher when compared to yours... La de da..

Unemployment Rate
5%
7.6%

Note :: Not trying to be USa biased.. There some things like Infant mortality rate that candians withstand upon having a better percentage.. But I'm just covering the greater topics... Literacy btw was the same in both countries.. 97%... On to the large topics.

Military Expenditures
$276.7 billion
7,860.5 million

Note :: I heard someone say something about military that's why I included that puiece of information... Umm Look for living conditions now.. Hmmm.. This page doesn't include living conditions.

Climate
mostly temperate, but tropical in Hawaii and Florida, arctic in Alaska, semiarid in the great plains west of the Mississippi River, and arid in the Great Basin of the southwest; low winter temperatures in the northwest are ameliorated occasionally in January and February by warm chinook winds from the eastern slopes of the Rocky Mountains
varies from temperate in south to subarctic and arctic in north

Note :: Interesting enough... Temperate is about what you are around.. But mostly around the north subartic and artic.. You're right on the nose with that one.. But temperate ranges from 30 degrees to 80 degrees if I'm correct?

And that's about it... I decided to go look up sheer facts instead of just throwing things back and forth... And like I stated in a note.. These are just the pressing issues I heard being displayed... If I can find land delopement and living conditions.. I'll add those on here as well..

playamarz :player:

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:43 PM
the cia trained osama bin laden and all them terrorists of his.
The u.s. gives bombs to people so they can explode other people.

I can't think of the dozens of other things, but just go watch Bowling for Colombine.

AnOraK
April 4th, 2003, 03:46 PM
some ammo for your blazing gun pj

kroonsville (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/en.html)

doesn't say anything bout their height though..

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:48 PM
marz-

La de da, our people aren't murdered by guns. Just a thought.

Our unemployment rate does not reflect the living conditions or poverty rate. I don't know the numbers, so i won't say anything, but simply - it's better for people here.

Again, the military should not be a factor. It has nothing to do with this.

I'll try and find me some pro-Can numbers. :P back in a jiffy. Peanutbutter. Jubba?


Edit:

I'm too lazy.

I want to say something, though.

After Rev's comment about dollars and cents, and everything else, this became an argument about everything between America and Canada. My initial argument was that 10,000 american's die every year from gunshot wounds, and for no real reason. That will not be proven wrong by any of you, no matter how hard you try. Your country has a gun problem.

For other topics, like death rates and whatnot, I don't know everything, and I'm not going to try and debate things I know nothing about. I'll throw in an opinion, but that's all until I do some research (which I'm not entirely interested in doing)

queenLV426
April 4th, 2003, 03:52 PM
all right... this is mika. I'm another one of tim's friends... so this is NOT jess writing.

I'd just like to say that for the most portion... most americans are a lot like canadians. it's the american government that like 80% of americans don't believe in. therefore we're all cool!

oh... and approximatly 85% of our people live on the us/canada border... there are quite a lot of places where US territory is more norther than canada. Especially where tim lives.... he could swim across a river to the states. so yeah.... let's all stop our childish fighting and realize that we're just pissed off at the war. yes. by the way... my email is the_mikor@yahoo.ca if you'd like to respond to me... cuz I highly doubt I'll ever check this again. ^_^ thanks! bye!

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 03:54 PM
I edited my latest post (above)

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Mika, get off of jess's computer! You might hurt it!
I know what you do to computers!
And Mika, this has nothing to do with the war, you terd. 10,000 people die from guns in the states <i>every</i> year. There's nothing special about 2k2 or 2k3.

Marz
April 4th, 2003, 04:05 PM
Allright.. If you wanna go mroe ind epth on the numbers.. Go ahead.. I was staing the facts that actually count...

But.. here are some more phigures for you.. :)

Note :: Phil... COuld you please hand me some of that Estonia mouthwash.. :beam:

Migration Rate
3.5 migrant(s)/1,000 population
6.07 migrant(s)/1,000 population

Note :: That's gotta suck... Weird though.. I figured US would hold the record in this.. Being with Mexican and Canadian borders... Plus frequent overseas... Hmm

Birth Rate
14.1 births/1,000 population
11.09 births/1,000 population

Infant Mortality
6.69 deaths/1,000 live births
4.95 deaths/1,000 live births

Note :: There is a good number for Canada... Yay for Canada... It's a good issue too.. Infant survival rate... Albeit.. The reason ours is so low is because of the motherly instincts alot of the parents have here... You know the whole.. Oh well.. I'm not saying much about that seeing how it's a perosn to person thing.

AIDS
.3%
.16%

Note :: I think this is due to the factor that we have more gays. But don't quote me on that one..

AIDS Died Ration
1.6 %
.8%

Note :: Not bad.. Your AIDS protection seems to be good.

Economic Overview
The US has the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world, with a per capita GDP of $36,300. In this market-oriented economy, private individuals and business firms make most of the decisions, and the federal and state governments buy needed goods and services predominantly in the private marketplace. US business firms enjoy considerably greater flexibility than their counterparts in Western Europe and Japan in decisions to expand capital plant, lay off surplus workers, and develop new products. At the same time, they face higher barriers to entry in their rivals' home markets than the barriers to entry of foreign firms in US markets. US firms are at or near the forefront in technological advances, especially in computers and in medical, aerospace, and military equipment, although their advantage has narrowed since the end of World War II. The onrush of technology largely explains the gradual development of a "two-tier labor market" in which those at the bottom lack the education and the professional/technical skills of those at the top and, more and more, fail to get comparable pay raises, health insurance coverage, and other benefits. Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. The years 1994-2000 witnessed solid increases in real output, low inflation rates, and a drop in unemployment to below 5%. The year 2001 witnessed the end of the boom psychology and performance, with output increasing only 0.3% and unemployment and business failures rising substantially. The response to the terrorist attacks of September 11 showed the remarkable resilience of the economy. Moderate recovery is expected in 2002, with the GDP growth rate rising to 2.5% or more. A major short-term problem in first half 2002 was a sharp decline in the stock market, fueled in part by the exposure of dubious accounting practices in some major corporations. Long-term problems include inadequate investment in economic infrastructure, rapidly rising medical and pension costs of an aging population, sizable trade deficits, and stagnation of family income in the lower economic groups.
As an affluent, high-tech industrial society, Canada today closely resembles the US in its market-oriented economic system, pattern of production, and high living standards. Since World War II, the impressive growth of the manufacturing, mining, and service sectors has transformed the nation from a largely rural economy into one primarily industrial and urban. The 1989 US-Canada Free Trade Agreement (FTA) and the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) (which includes Mexico) touched off a dramatic increase in trade and economic integration with the US. As a result of the close cross-border relationship, the economic sluggishness in the United States in 2001-02 had a negative impact on the Canadian economy. Real growth averaged nearly 3% during 1993-2000, but declined in 2001, with moderate recovery in 2002. Unemployment is up, with contraction in the manufacturing and natural resource sectors. Nevertheless, given its great natural resources, skilled labor force, and modern capital plant Canada enjoys solid economic prospects. Two shadows loom, the first being the continuing constitutional impasse between English- and French-speaking areas, which has been raising the spectre of a split in the federation. Another long-term concern is the flow south to the US of professionals lured by higher pay, lower taxes, and the immense high-tech infrastructure. A key strength in the economy is the substantial trade surplus.

That's all I'm going to post for now.. But that sums up alot of things right there... If I go more into the figures you'll find industrial and argricultural facts.

playamarz :player:

reverendflash
April 4th, 2003, 04:06 PM
Aislin:

I wasn't upset. I was having fun.

Marz gave the facts...

I say, "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight."
:beam:

Revhttp://www.aulman.com/rev.gif

Oh, and:
Estonia is named after people called "Ests" who lived in the region in the first century AD.

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 04:12 PM
"I mean, look at our flag! It's a fu**in leaf! Oh no, don't mess with canada. We'll dry up and blow away! We should just attack some country one night. Nobody would see that coming. The greatest coo in military history. Lay low for 280 years... and then attack turkey. Just show up 'Fu** you we're takin' it! And we're calling it 'Chicken' you *******s!' "

~Some comedian that I can't remember the name of. He had a big nose.

Marz
April 4th, 2003, 04:45 PM
Yeah.. I gte rather defensive for my own country... *lmao*..

Btw.. Aislin.. GUn Shot rates are definetly generalized by area more specifically big cities..

Like... For the city I live in (yes we are considered a city)... We haven't had a gun shot death in over 3 years... 2 gun shot woundings.. But no deaths... :)

playamarz :player:

RussianBeer
April 4th, 2003, 04:55 PM
PEACE BROTHERS!!

"We must all learn to live as brothers! Or Die as fools!"
-Martin Luther King Jr.

Let not the nation under out feet come and dictate out brotherhood!! Let freedom reign and peace unite the world, not letting evil hold and bring us to our knees!!
And I say!! If your eight bit video card does not process the data and overloads your piece of-crap video card! Oh Brother, you must upgrade to a new and better graphic cards to save your dumb self from da-m-nation!

... I mean peace...
(Long live Das RussLand!)

Marz
April 4th, 2003, 05:03 PM
Ummm... yeah...

*lmao* at Phil... Yeah man.. I have the problem spratically here... I should have quoted the gun shot detah count a little better... If my city knew about the deaths I gave with gun shots.. Then *whistles*..

Oh dear I've stated too much.. *lmao*

Russian... Viva los estados unidos!

playamarz :player:

c!rYx
April 4th, 2003, 06:21 PM
Haha, that is awesome funny...

hojo
April 4th, 2003, 06:45 PM
i've lived in the us all my life and am literally scared to wake up the next day and read in the newspaper that our leader (moron bush) is trying to do these things that makes sense. he seems to me like a crazed power driven monkey that has no intelligence at all...listen to the man speak!!

when i move, it'll be to canada.

Aislin
April 4th, 2003, 11:17 PM
Quote from bowling for colombine:
"So what's so different about Canada that they have so few deaths from gunshot wounds?"
"I dunno, but it sounds like a nice place to retire."

andr.in
April 5th, 2003, 02:07 AM
BUAHAHHAHHAHUAHAAAAAA! Phil is picking on Estonia!!!
There is nothing wrong with kroons!!!!!!! Japanese ppl call their money yeens or something man!! And there are other countries who call theirs kroons too! But soon It will be euros!!!!!!!!

Estonia is Small but we are Brave People!
I can't remember the war or the year but I can remember that the Estonians almsot died out after some kinda war... I think I remember the name of da war in Estonian but I don't know what kind of ridiculous name it has in English! There were only a few hndreds of 'em!

You ppl are mean picking on a little country as Estonia!!!! Why don't you pick on somebody your own size! Like Vatican! :P lmao!


And Estonians are not short ppl! THy are as tall as the Americans if not taller!!!

Marz
April 5th, 2003, 06:11 AM
I'm 6 foot 6 inches.. :P

playamarz :player:

Aislin
April 5th, 2003, 12:46 PM
I'm 6'5''.



...I'm lying, too. ...I'm such a liar. Lies.